The horror!

Good god no. That sound worse than being thrown into a a pit of oily tiddies.

what!? no! what about the poor insurance companies who charge more than a fucking mortgage?!

And then a random dude in the middle takes a cut while providing no actual service.

As a MAGA with Treatable Cancer I would rather DIE a HORRIBLE PAINFUL and PREVENTABLE Death then to see ONE Minority Child Healthy!

There's a Fundamental Christian influencer named Aria Lewis who has that "insurance". She's been dealing with dental problems and basically made a post one day asking her followers if that insurance was a scam because she wasn't able to get the care she really needed

It's crazy what problems people fall into when they choose something has "Christian" in the name over what everyone else is using

These people NEED this pointed out to them. It's the only way they ever change their perspectives. It must affect them, otherwise they never change.

OP is a new second time, just to be clear.

What?

Geez, they really do come out of the woodwork just prior to elections.

No, we don't. We are always here. But you fucking dilletantes show up a few months before every election thinking that you can both rustle up some blue no matter who votes while spreading your blue MAGA bullshit and then accuse everyone else of being Russian bots and Republican trolls and you smug schmucks think it's working without any sense of how propaganda actually works and how you are creating every opportunity for people to see how completely bankrupt you all are.

Hell, we all pay for other people's healthcare now! When people go to the emergency room and can't afford to pay, the hospitals crank up the cost of everyone else's healthcare to make up for it. We have literally the least cost effective system possible.

I know no one on Lemmy likes Jubilee and I don't either, but I still watch it every now and again.

Last month there was a Gen Z politician vs Boomers and one of the old guys was talking about how student loan forgiveness shouldn't be done. The politician says you won't feel it. The Boomer said, they would because of the numbers of the ledger, politician says you'll feel it due to the all the people being able to contribute to the economy properly and giving it a huge boost. Boomer says him or his wife had their loans forgiven and it was a huge help, but that not everyone should get it.

Man, these fucking people.

OP is a new second time, just to be clear.

you sound very confident but you are mistaken. just to be clear: the screenshot in the post shows a still from the same video as the 2024 tweet i linked.

Sorry, I expect consequences for every motherfucker spending the last 2 years blatantly flaunting the law before healthcare.

No worries. Since they own the democrats too, this will never happen.

won't somebody PLEASE think of the billionaires!?

I'm assuming he thinks prisons have free healthcare.

He's threatening us with a good time.

are you sure hes a leftist, or one in NAME only. almost everyone that believes welfare should not be for POORs/POC is almost always a conservative. i know a couple people that are ON THE left in name only, but says alot of talking points of a republican and would rather vote R, if not for the pontential ostracization from thier immediately circles.

dental insurance is kinda of a scam, if you are not using an employer-sponsered one, they dont cover most things outside of cleanings. the ones i looked from the 3 well known dental insurance, have approximately the same kind of coverage for all 3 plans, the only difference some of them are more expensive. Employer- sponsored plans have very different coverage from the individual plans.

i like how they rail about dental/health insurance as a scam, while they use a more expensive version which is likely paying the full cost of dental care. i would imagine the fund would drain pretty fast if people are getting multiple cavities filled, and not even for other things like extractions, root canal and crowns, or periodontal care, or implants.

I ALSO notice some dental offices, offer thier own "insurance" in house, may or may not be expensive but that could be another avenue if people dont want to pay for better insurance.

i like how the christian "health/dental" plans are exactly like actual insurance from like companies like cigna,aetna,delta-care,,,etc.

Jubilee is a conservative channel, that pretends to be on "both sides" they showed thier true colors when they host conservatives, magats , and even charlie kirk, to debate "woke" people, usually its 20 people vs the left all the time.

hes going to do mental gymnasitcs,"im not one of those people, i worked 100k+/year job for decades, and i deserved it". if he was a diehard magat.

reagans intelligence is a stretch, he mostly had progressive symptoms of alzheimers around that that time, it is believed that nancy throat goat reagan and his cabinet was just pulling his strings 100% of the time.

usually welfare has been stereotyped for people of AA descent and poor.

The entire health insurance industry is built around taking a cut. Literally every single person who works for United Healthcare, BCBS, Aetna, and Humana is being paid by money the health insurance company took from you and is not using to provide healthcare. Not only that, but hospitals dedicate entire departments to battling health insurance companies for authorization for treatment. All that money could be redirected toward actually providing healthcare.

funny thing is maga is more likely to believe in pseudoscience when faced with a chronic or deadly illness, they will do all sorts alternative medicines.

I mean, I only know what I've gathered from our conversations, but his views align with mine on almost every other topic. That's why it baffles me so much that we don't agree on this one.

guess he dint fully buy into the manosphere/ right grifting circuit.

It’s not hard to look at all other western countries and see that it works better in almost every area and overall costs less

And there is nothing stopping people from having private insurance on top of it

I don’t know why Americans are so easily brainwashed

Tiddies are only a good thing when attatched to someone.

I will not explain how I know this.

Are you sure you won't explain?

Ohhhhh... wow.

That is... I don't even know.

These people are vile.

What's interesting is the people don't have private healthcare. Yes it's an option and some people do take it but the vast majority don't including people that could easily afford it.

The very types that are most likely to complain about other people getting free healthcare are also the types to make use of it.

It's even more stupid than that. They're not even paying for their own healthcare. If you arrive in hospital and need several million pounds worth of medical treatment, there's no quibbling about whether or not you paid that much in they just get on with it.

The vast majority of people who suddenly require major surgery you actually pay considerably less over the course of a life paying via taxes then you ever would pay for private healthcare, also because it's the government just funding itself they don't make random numbers up when it comes to billing, it costs what it cost.

I should probably give this stuff some proper reading, but I'm curious about your take on it.

Some people in the USA celebrate relative success instead of absolute one.

"Is your life really better when others suffer?"

Have you considered that evreyone also means... BLACK PEOPLE?

We can give some to the blacks, but what about the immigrants. How dare they get what is only reserved for the chosen few.

Pound like a pound of fat, if so can it come from the belly area, they have tons over there. /S

Because I'm certain but they are not

Keeping up with the Johnses down

Agreed 100%. Even as a Christian myself, I avoid businesses with "Christian" in the name. At best it feels like they're trying to say that they're the "Jesus-y" choice. At worst it means they're crooks trying to look legitimate. In either case they're probably maga.

Are there any channels you would consider non conservative that allow debates between racist talkshow hosts and non racist talkshow hosts?

The American education system has been slowly eroded over decades to create an easily manipulated population of sheep.

Americans don't know how misinformed they are.

The crazy thing is, I actually agree with you about your list, and that the US has told a fairy tale for the past two and a half centuries about how we're the good guys and they're the bad guys, and so forth. But then

The Democrats are just as fascist

is just laughable in pretty much every conceivable way. Are they still bad? Yes! But have they sent a secret police around the country to tear "undesirables" out of their homes and send them to countries they've never been without due process? Are they currently plotting to overthrow the election or stay in power despite losing that election? Did they, in the past two years, allow an unelected billionaire to destroy entire government agencies by fiat?

Ah-ah-ah! I hear you saying "but they voted to approve ICE funding" or "but they didn't do anything to stop any of it" or "but Obama deported a bunch of people too" or "Democratic gerrymandering"—no. I didn't ask if they allowed it to happen. I didn't ask for whatabouts. I asked if they were behind the worst, most criminal activities being perpetrated by the US government at this very moment. I asked if they are doing it now. Are they the prime movers?

No? Then you can't say "just as fascist." That might've been true ten years ago---actually, aside from the election fraud, it almost definitely was---and I could maybe even see an argument that their evil was in the same order of magnitude as recently as two years ago, but equating the two since Trump 2 is like comparing a viper bite to a meteor entering the atmosphere. They're both imminently dangerous, sure, but the difference in the scale of damage would be almost laughable if the harm wasn't currently in progress.

The country needs to be fixed. I don't think the Democrats are going to do it. But I'm not going to do anything to aid the people who are going to make it more broken, so I'm going to leave off turning on people who will be on our team until after the existential threat to our loved ones and ourselves is past.

You failed to mention... Trans!!!!