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Natanox discuss.tchncs.de Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
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#2 · Quote Reply

The planet when everyone outsources everything to AI:

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#3 · Quote Reply

The planet when everyone outsources everything to AI:

Happens anyway might as well have fun with it.

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Natanox discuss.tchncs.de Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-10-07
#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

Happens anyway might as well have fun with it.

A ton of good people are working tirelessly to prevent it and make the world a better place. This common shit take isn't helping, it enables bad people to do as they please and shows bad character (or lack of education, one of those two).

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#5 · Quote Reply

A ton of good people are working tirelessly to prevent it and make the world a better place. This common shit take isn't helping, it enables bad people to do as they please and shows bad character (or lack of education, one of those two).

They should stop wasting their time.

I'm not trying to help.

Money enables people to do as they please. That you don't know that shows your bad character (or lack of education, one of those two).

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surewhynotlem lemmy.world surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#6 · Quote Reply

They should stop wasting their time. I'm not trying to help. Money enables people to do as they please. That you don't know that shows your bad character (or lack of education, one of those two).

Externalities exist

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stephen lazysoci.al stephen@lazysoci.al
Joined: 2025-03-21
#7 · Quote Reply

I think the HR departments of nearly everywhere that I’ve worked could be replaced with last year’s, discount LLM models and things would improve.

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#8 · Quote Reply

Externalities exist

Can't argue with that.

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Otter lemmy.ca otter@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-05
#9 · Quote Reply

Happens anyway might as well have fun with it.

It's not a binary switch

Theres a big difference between some climate change (which we can no longer prevent), and a lot of climate change.

I don't think we'll get to have much fun if we're dealing with mass migrations and a collapse of food systems. Not saying generative AI use alone will push us to that point, but this attitude of defeatism will

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I Cast Fist programming.dev ICastFist@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-22
#10 · Quote Reply

The planet when everyone outsources everything to AI:

Won't somebody please think of the shareholders??????

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Midnight1938 reddthat.com Midnight1938@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-08-06
#11 · Quote Reply

I think the HR departments of nearly everywhere that I’ve worked could be replaced with last year’s, discount LLM models and things would improve.

Somehow the people most replaceable by llms are the ones deciding who to replace

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#12 · Quote Reply

It's not a binary switch Theres a big difference between some climate change (which we can no longer prevent), and a lot of climate change. I don't think we'll get to have much fun if we're dealing with mass migrations and a collapse of food systems. Not saying generative AI use alone will push us to that point, but this attitude of defeatism will

Nah, my attitude is fine.

There are so many things in the world that are going wrong and are going wrong since a long time, saying my attitude is the problem is laughable.

Playing monopoly with people who cheat, have more resources then you, are able to change the rules, already own a bunch of streets, etc. and then saying "I stop playing" is a rational thing to do.

I don't believe that things will change before things get much worse so nobody can deny the facts anymore that those systems eat themselves.

So until then I spend my time having fun.

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huquad lemmy.ml huquad@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-08
#13 · Quote Reply

The planet when everyone outsources everything to AI:

This is what we call an externality in the biz \s

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jumping redditor [they/them] sh.itjust.works jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-30
#14 · Quote Reply

This is what we call an externality in the biz \s

this but without the \s

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AstralPath lemmy.ca AstralPath@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-04
#15 · Quote Reply

They should stop wasting their time. I'm not trying to help. Money enables people to do as they please. That you don't know that shows your bad character (or lack of education, one of those two).

Go ahead and be a pessimist all you like. No need to embroil others in your misery. Honestly if you really don't care then why toss shit at someone about their character, as if you're some paragon of virtue? Pick a fucking lane and stick to it.

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idiomaddict lemmy.world idiomaddict@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-16
#16 · Quote Reply

They should stop wasting their time. I'm not trying to help. Money enables people to do as they please. That you don't know that shows your bad character (or lack of education, one of those two).

How does not knowing that people use money to bulldoze others’ desires show a lack of character? It looks like you got offended because you’re the main character, so of course you’re a good person and you don’t do this, so it’s dumb and nobody should.

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FiskFisk33 startrek.website FiskFisk33@startrek.website
Joined: 2023-08-10
#17 · Quote Reply

They should stop wasting their time. I'm not trying to help. Money enables people to do as they please. That you don't know that shows your bad character (or lack of education, one of those two).

Actively discouraging people from caring about saving the world, and then having the nerve to call out "bad character", just wow.

I understand giving up, I just dont understand why one would actively bring down others still trying.

Someone here is showing bad character, and it isnt the one you called out for it..

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Deckname piefed.social Deckname@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-07-20
#18 · Quote Reply

this but without the \s

And as always, society pays for externalities.

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psx_crab lemmy.zip psx_crab@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-01-11
#19 · Quote Reply

Happens anyway might as well have fun with it.

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Lucidlethargy sh.itjust.works Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-28
#20 · Quote Reply

The planet when everyone outsources everything to AI:

Oh! Oh, I know what planet that is, guys!

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Agent641 lemmy.world Agent641@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-12
#21 · Quote Reply

Employers when I outsource my performance review to AI

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Valmond lemmy.dbzer0.com Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-11-13
#22 · Quote Reply

I think the HR departments of nearly everywhere that I’ve worked could be replaced with last year’s, discount LLM models and things would improve.

What about managers?!

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#23 · Quote Reply

Go ahead and be a pessimist all you like. No need to embroil others in your misery. Honestly if you really don't care then why toss shit at someone about their character, as if you're some paragon of virtue? Pick a fucking lane and stick to it.

I'm not miserable, quite the opposite. And I have the right to share my opinion as everybody else.

And why paragon of virtue? I just repeated their accusation back at them to show how ridiculous it is to couple the evaluation of character to one thing.

But as it seems most people on here are fine with ignoring the complexity of a person.

I don't owe you consistency :D

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#24 · Quote Reply

How does not knowing that people use money to bulldoze others’ desires show a lack of character? It looks like you got offended because you’re the main character, so of course you’re a good person and you don’t do this, so it’s dumb and nobody should.

It's crazy how you people argue about strawman all the time. You just start imaging a person and then start to talk about your fantasy as if it is real.

Why do you do that?

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#25 · Quote Reply

Actively discouraging people from caring about saving the world, and then having the nerve to call out "bad character", just wow. I understand giving up, I just dont understand why one would actively bring down others still trying. Someone here is showing bad character, and it isnt the one you called out for it..

Saving the world xD

Yeah, people on here are surely saving the world with the downvotes and screeching at everything that doesn't align with their views.

This isn't about saving the world this is all about the ego of keyboard warriors who are thinkn in Bad or good as if this is a movie.

How are these peoples supposed to "save the world" if they have a meltdown just reading a different opinion? :D

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#26 · Quote Reply

Those are the people that are shaping the world we live in.

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justme lemmy.dbzer0.com justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-04-17
#27 · Quote Reply

The planet when everyone outsources everything to AI:

don't worry, we don't need AI for that

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idiomaddict lemmy.world idiomaddict@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-16
#28 · Quote Reply

It's crazy how you people argue about strawman all the time. You just start imaging a person and then start to talk about your fantasy as if it is real. Why do you do that?

I said it looks like that- if it’s not that, please tell me what it is. I also didn’t argue with it. Now it feels like you’re imagining that other internet users are a hive mind that acts the same for a common goal. Maybe you’re not and I’m just misinterpreting your words though ;)

I commented in the suspicion that you were rationalizing your behavior out of sour grapes and in the hope that you’d realize it and stop discouraging others from trying to fix things, as well as the hope that others reading wouldn’t begin to follow your lead. I can’t tell you why anyone else commented though.

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FiskFisk33 startrek.website FiskFisk33@startrek.website
Joined: 2023-08-10
#29 · Quote Reply

Saving the world xD Yeah, people on here are surely saving the world with the downvotes and screeching at everything that doesn't align with their views. This isn't about saving the world this is all about the ego of keyboard warriors who are thinkn in Bad or good as if this is a movie. How are these peoples supposed to "save the world" if they have a meltdown just reading a different opinion? :D

The meltdowns are all in your head, I just see disagreement.

The whole bad vs good thing you just pulled out of your arse too. You are not being called out for being disillusioned, I think many can relate, you are being called out for also being a dick about it.

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psx_crab lemmy.zip psx_crab@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-01-11
#30 · Quote Reply

Those are the people that are shaping the world we live in.

And you're joining them. Why?

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#31 · Quote Reply

I said it looks like that- if it’s not that, please tell me what it is. I also didn’t argue with it. Now it feels like you’re imagining that other internet users are a hive mind that acts the same for a common goal. Maybe you’re not and I’m just misinterpreting your words though ;) I commented in the suspicion that you were rationalizing your behavior out of sour grapes and in the hope that you...

Yes you said it looks like that, which is an assumption, and then you build upon that assumption instead of asking if your assumption is accurate as you do now.

Why didn't you ask in the first place?

With "you people" I mean people that do what you did and what you did I already described. Not some internet hivemind.

And I just repeated their stuff back to them to shoe how ridiculous it is to couple the evaluation of character to one statement. It completely ignores the complexity of a human being and I think that is worth to make fun of.

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#32 · Quote Reply

The meltdowns are all in your head, I just see disagreement. The whole bad vs good thing you just pulled out of your arse too. You are not being called out for being disillusioned, I think many can relate, you are being called out for also being a dick about it.

Than you are willfully ignoring what people wrote. Attacking someone's character is not just disagreement.

Saying I have a bad character was literally the first response to my comment so I didn't pull it out of my as, I build on top of what others have said. You just willfully ignoring that too :D

And I'm a dick about it? See? You disagree with me and instantly start calling me names xD

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slaacaa lemmy.world slaacaa@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-11
#33 · Quote Reply

don't worry, we don't need AI for that

But it certainly helps

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homosapien lemmy.dbzer0.com homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-28
#34 · Quote Reply

Saving the world xD Yeah, people on here are surely saving the world with the downvotes and screeching at everything that doesn't align with their views. This isn't about saving the world this is all about the ego of keyboard warriors who are thinkn in Bad or good as if this is a movie. How are these peoples supposed to "save the world" if they have a meltdown just reading a different opinion? :D

Paradox of tolerance

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homosapien lemmy.dbzer0.com homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-28
#35 · Quote Reply

Saving the world xD Yeah, people on here are surely saving the world with the downvotes and screeching at everything that doesn't align with their views. This isn't about saving the world this is all about the ego of keyboard warriors who are thinkn in Bad or good as if this is a movie. How are these peoples supposed to "save the world" if they have a meltdown just reading a different opinion? :D

"Different opinion" and it's just supporting Trump and Epstein

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homosapien lemmy.dbzer0.com homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-28
#36 · Quote Reply

I'm not miserable, quite the opposite. And I have the right to share my opinion as everybody else. And why paragon of virtue? I just repeated their accusation back at them to show how ridiculous it is to couple the evaluation of character to one thing. But as it seems most people on here are fine with ignoring the complexity of a person. I don't owe you consistency :D

The right for people to survive is not an opinion. It is non negotiable

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#37 · Quote Reply

And you're joining them. Why?

When I first came to Lemmy I thought that people here share my opinion and some sort of movement will form.

After some time I realized that people on here are to busy feeling smug that they don't buy the "wrong kind of juice anymore and tell other people that genocide is wrong. They are to busy with performance than with organizing.

Then I saw the discussion culture on here with has nothing to do with having a conversation but with angrily trowing strawmans around. All around disillusioned with the whole affair.

You know how rarebit is on here that someone asks "what makes you think that?". So I give up, to much infighting for any meaningful momentum to build up.

So what's the alternative? In my opinion the systems we have eat themselves. They are not sustainable and need to change. But why do things change? Because it's necessary to change. Why is it necessary to change? Pressure.

So the thought ist that the people I agree with on a "what the world should look like in the end"-level will never organize in a fashion that will build enough pressure to change the systems.

But thats fine. The systems bending under their own weight so all we have to do to build pressure is to participate.

I don't believe that we can change direction, but I believe we can arrive at the point at which the system is under so much pressure that it has to change, faster.

But thats not the only reason. It's a complex topic and as other complex topics there are many things intervowen.

So I join them because it will destroy it faster and my life is better for the time I do it.

Plus I'm disillusioned with the left and the "moral uber alles". You play against people that cheat and in this game we play with lives. So playing by the "rules" because you(not you personal, the general you) feel better doing so still kills people. I think it is a irresponsible way of acting and unmasked the underlying reason that it is not about arriving in a better world but to feel good.

The right plays to win and will do whatever it takes, so they will always win against people who don't.

So I join them not because I believe in their cause, I join them because I believe self destruction is the only valid way out of this.

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homosapien lemmy.dbzer0.com homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#38 · Quote Reply

Nah, my attitude is fine. There are so many things in the world that are going wrong and are going wrong since a long time, saying my attitude is the problem is laughable. Playing monopoly with people who cheat, have more resources then you, are able to change the rules, already own a bunch of streets, etc. and then saying "I stop playing" is a rational thing to do. I don't believe that things ...

You are a coward

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#39 · Quote Reply

You are a coward

I'm just not an idiot but I understand that is hard for you to see.

But I'm intrigued. What are you doing which makes you not a coward in your opinion?

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#40 · Quote Reply

The right for people to survive is not an opinion. It is non negotiable

Hostage negotiators and murderer would beg to differ I assume.

Maybe the world is a bit more complex then the writings on your coffeemug suggest.

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okwhateverdude lemmy.world okwhateverdude@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-01
#41 · Quote Reply

When I first came to Lemmy I thought that people here share my opinion and some sort of movement will form. After some time I realized that people on here are to busy feeling smug that they don't buy the "wrong kind of juice anymore and tell other people that genocide is wrong. They are to busy with performance than with organizing. Then I saw the discussion culture on here with has nothing to ...

(a whole bunch of blah blah blah trying to justify the last sentence)
So I join them not because I believe in their cause, I join them because I believe self destruction is the only valid way out of this.

I am not terribly convinced by your own strawmanning nor by your stated desire to see their destruction. I would at least piss on a nazi that was on fire to help put it out. Letting them burn just creates martyrs. Wearing their colors and dousing them petrol is just more nazi shit.

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#42 · Quote Reply

(a whole bunch of blah blah blah trying to justify the last sentence) So I join them not because I believe in their cause, I join them because I believe self destruction is the only valid way out of this. I am not terribly convinced by your own strawmanning nor by your stated desire to see their destruction. I would at least piss on a nazi that was on fire to help put it out. Letting them burn ...

Good thing I'm not trying to convince you. The way you treat what I wrote is a good example for why.

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justme lemmy.dbzer0.com justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-04-17
#43 · Quote Reply

But it certainly helps

maybe we can ask it, what to do about it?

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tfm europe.pub tfm@europe.pub
Joined: 2025-03-13
#44 · Quote Reply

maybe we can ask it, what to do about it?

Basically nothing as long as these tech broligarchs are in power

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ArcaneSlime lemmy.dbzer0.com ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-30
#45 · Quote Reply

Hell we might as well switch the HR dept to AI, thr lady in charge of HR is just using chat GPT to make policies now so what's the fucking difference?

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Longylonglong sh.itjust.works Longylonglong@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-07-27
#46 · Quote Reply

When I first came to Lemmy I thought that people here share my opinion and some sort of movement will form. After some time I realized that people on here are to busy feeling smug that they don't buy the "wrong kind of juice anymore and tell other people that genocide is wrong. They are to busy with performance than with organizing. Then I saw the discussion culture on here with has nothing to ...

You might be right that self destruction is the only viable ending. But joining them and "feeling good" well knowing you are participating in artrocious activities and self destruction makes you an huge asshole.

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homosapien lemmy.dbzer0.com homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-28
#47 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'm just not an idiot but I understand that is hard for you to see. But I'm intrigued. What are you doing which makes you not a coward in your opinion?

That's a tu quoqe but I actually act against tyrannical regimes

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homosapien lemmy.dbzer0.com homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-28
#48 · Quote Reply

Hostage negotiators and murderer would beg to differ I assume. Maybe the world is a bit more complex then the writings on your coffeemug suggest.

The murderer usually can't convince a negotiator to shoot the hostage, and that's a false equivalence

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homosapien lemmy.dbzer0.com homosapien@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-08-28
#49 · Quote Reply

The murderer usually can't convince a negotiator to shoot the hostage, and that's a false equivalence

as the negotiator and the murderer are not debating on if the hostage is worth saving

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#50 · Quote Reply

You might be right that self destruction is the only viable ending. But joining them and "feeling good" well knowing you are participating in artrocious activities and self destruction makes you an huge asshole.

No, feeling good because I don't carry the weight of the world on my shoulders anymore doesn't make me an asshole, it makes me healthy.

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dontbelievethis sh.itjust.works dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-07
#51 · Quote Reply

That's a tu quoqe but I actually act against tyrannical regimes

How is it a tu quoque?

Sure Buddy, and how exactly?

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