Link: https://www.thejournal.ie/salmon-fed-chicken-7195347-Oct2026/

Now, increased demand for traditional fishmeal – which is made from small species caught in the open ocean – has sent the industry scrambling for alternatives.

The stuff being used to make fish feed is a byproduct of the poultry industry – it’s what is left over after the parts of the chicken consumed by humans and the remains used for cat and dog food have been removed.

And next, were going to feed salmon remains to chicken. Close the circle of life.

People are ready to do anything, but stop eating meat.

Mad salmon disease is in the air.

Not how that works.

We have become obsessed with protein pushed by the beef industry in response to the increasing recognition that we are eating too much (cardiovascular disease, bowel cancer risks, etc)

Yes, that's why vegetarians don't exist.

Very smart take, very scientific, shows great intelligence.

It is why their numbers are so small.
And why some of them have to go back to eating meat after a time.

We have already had that for a long time, fishmeal for example. One of the contributing reasons for high amounts of dioxins in egg production.

You're seriously suggesting that there's not a lot of vegetarians because they die or go back to eating meat?

Wow.

Not at all. I made no such association. Didn't even mention anyone dying. That's all you.

No, I'm suggesting there aren't many because not every one can tolerate it long term. Those I've know who can, were raised that way from infancy. But it seems our bodies, once adapted to animal protein, make it quite difficult for us to stop. Not impossible, just difficult.

it depends on who really needs it but for most people using plant based supplements and changing a bit of their food habit is more than enough for the health part.
Just reducing meat intake can have very positive effects.

Also Indian food is really nice because its mostly not centered around meat (its more an additional ingredient) and still very tasty and healthy

cough India cough

Yes. As I said in another comment, people raised without animal meet tend to do fine. Most others have a difficult time.

Do you have any evidence of any of that?

I lived most of my life eating meat with every meal, stopped eating meat suddenly and got used to it in what, maybe a month?

I think that you have it backwards, it's not that you need to be raised vegetarian for it to be easy, it's just that people are so brainwashed thinking that meat is life that they just can't escape it without a conscious effort.

Are you suggesting eating meat since birth changes you physiologically or that Skill issue?

Isn't that more a case of low income and low access to health care? Loads of countries in that income bracket that have similar life expectancy while eating meat.

Was this an actual attempt at discussion or drive by lol trolling?

Anything to back that claim up?

???

Do people actually believe this shit?

Do people think you'll die if you become vegetarian or vegan? That you'll rely on supplements? That you can't get in shape or gain muscle?

Man, people are fucking dumb as shit.

Being vegetarian and getting protein is fucking easy. Being vegan and getting protein is also not really as difficult as people tell you. There are bodybuilders that are fully vegan.

Every vegetarian and vegan I've met is healthier on average, and a guy I knew that ate fish he caught died of a parasite, so, like, if we're going off of anecdotal evidence, there's also that.

This is my new favorite meat replacement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjFDFsg7l60

More protein per pond than chicken breast with none of the fat and none of the colesterol.

As of today in the UK (as an example)

Beef: 9.11 GBP / kg (at ~ 23g protein/100g raw beef) is 3.96 GBP /100g protein.
Tofu: 1.80 GBP/ 450g (at ~ 16g protein/100g tofu) is 2.50 GBP /100 protein.
So how exactly is meat cheaper?

They suffer malnutrition often.

Your datum for this claim is your bank account for that claim? Wut? Are you implying you're a vegetarian?

You would make an excellent yehaaw scientist.

The science says that a little bit of meat is fine, just like a little bit of anything is fine. It doesn't say that no meat is less healthy, and usually says that no meat is, in fact, healthier. I'd even guess that whatever amount you eat is more than the amount that is recommended, especially if you are bragging about eating fish you caught. You could easily get mercury poisoning that way. See that concern trolling?

We're fucking omnivores. That means we can survive eating just about anything. You think we have to eat meat to live?

Wow, I didn't know they managed to resurrect some cavemen.

Physiologically. Mostly gut biome I imagine. But I'm not doctor, I don't know specifically what it is. I just know a non zero number of p.. It may be an economic issue, being ablke to afford the right food.

The gut bacteria thing might make sense, but a lot of people transition. They would then have the new biome. Extra farting and all.

I think it's a culture issue, as in the culture teaching you what works and what does not, etc. in terms of eating habits and recipes. Maybe once a robust culture forms around eating vegetarian food where you live, then maybe all the doubts might go away.

I don't know, it's an educated guess. I know they aren't richer in India, and they are doing fine.

That's great for you. Again I never said it was everyone. But a portion of people who try, sometimes a few years later, they find that they have low energy, muscle mass and strength loss. Especially athletes and extremely fit people. Sometimes women notice similar problems when pregnant, and they have to eat meat until they give birth, then give it up again.

Vegetarians and vegans frequently claim it's always great for everyone, and the few drawbacks are just people not doing it right. But that isn't always the case.

I can tell you that I got into health issues trying to maintain a vegan diet and if I had continued it may have been fatal. This was admittedly in a small town nearly 20 years ago. But the point does stand, in a lot of places it does cost more to have a complete protein every day with plant based diets than with meat based ones. Especially in states that already have agriculture based economies as beef and chicken are largely subsidized. I ended up developing a sensitivity to soy that has thankfully since gone away with a more balanced diet but that made it basically impossible to continue with the options that were available to me at that time within my price range.

I’m not saying that my experience was the norm, but dismissing that time, cost, and location are factors is definitely unwarranted in this case.

The guy your arguing with's name is "Truth_Hurts" and their account was created like 2 weeks ago. All of their recent comment history is arguments, they even have a ton of comments that were removed by a mod I think. Just give it a rest with that guy, they clearly won't even back up their claims with the bullshit they're spewing.

Feed chicken to salmon

Feed Salmon to chicken

Holy shit I just found an infinite food hack

I'm not talking about doubts. I'm talking about a group of people who have done it for years, and at some point noticed problems. They go to the doctor and find deficiencies in their bloodwork. Then go to a nutritionist to try to correct for it. Eventually they try eating fish or something for a few days and see improvement, seemingly overnight. They then have meat meals once or twice a week, and do fine on that.

Certainly we eat far more meat than we need, and the vast majority of us should cut back. But the insistence that meat should be or even could be, entirely eliminated from everyone's diet today if we all decided to, is just wrong. But if everyone cut back, even to half, perhaps the awful industrial farming conditions could be improved. That would also take some economic policy changes to make happen, but maybe.

Just one step away from genetically engineering the chicken salmon!

What if we make them eat the grasshoppers instead of us?

It's not him I'm arguing for. It's everyone else that might not realize how fucking dumb he is and needs someone to call him out.

Oh, no. You won't Poe me. No one is actually this stupid.

So don't address it to him. Honestly, if you want to correct things he's saying, just do so like you're correcting a 20-year old newspaper article. You don't need to converse with trolls to correct the record.

You're a toddler my dude. But you're also probably a troll who enjoys riling people up. So honestly, whatever...

I agree eating meat can have good affect on people's health. I don't agree it's a simple 'eating meat is always better' deal. I personally know people who have trouble with animal protein. Also let's not forget the deleterious effects of eating red meat.

I'm not trying to be 'but what about the bad effects too!' person. I agree that eating meat can be good for you. I just also think that a whole nation of people eating vegetarian meals all their lives goes to show that it is possible and normal. I also think that a lot of people in that nation would benefit from eating meat, as you pointed out.

It's not a question of nutrition.

Context matters, going pure vegetarian and heaven help you vegan. With our access to proper replacement can and will kill you.

For 99% of people that do go vegetarian or vegan don't have that problem tho. Because they DO have access. So for them it's literally a non issue and perfectly fine and healthy.

and by anecdotal evidence wise basically every vegan I've ever met has a laundry list of health issues from their diet choice.

Rarely meet an unhealthy vegetarian tho.

The real ones that always seem to be in God tier health are the pescatarians. Those fuckers have shit figured out.

They still... Have meat in their diet? I've never understood this argument.

It reaks of bad faith and bullshit.

Yes they eat less meat. No they are not a magic wonderland of vegetarians.

Can we at least try eating grasshoppers first?