There are people, who are afraid, free healthcare will lead to people not taking care of their health

They are usually the same people that weighs 350 pounds and don't trust vaccines.

Healthcare should NEVER be private, it should always be public, with a progressive price (people below a given income and/or heritage threshold should not pay, people above that threshold should pay but in a percentage equivalent to their income and heritage, so the richest pay, proportionally, more than the poorest, instead of it being regressive and the poorest paying proportionally less than the richest), universal, democratic and decentralized.

And I mean, that goes for any socialized benefit, and it should be like that with taxes too, and even with individual goods and services. It simply doesn't make sense that the ones that have the less, have to pay the more.

Boomer are the most egoist gen. Fuck them all

Insanely, to most Americans, unaffordable for-profit health care is a flex.

Don't threaten me with a good time!

This is from the 2024 campaign. Which he won, bafflingly.

But lecture people that the moment healthcare will be free, no one will be working out, and will be smoking 2354 packs a day.

Torn over the struggling small business that cant afford to pay a living wage for an artist.

So dont skip the shops with akward handmade signs made by people with minimal artistic talent.

The one that breaks my heart is the Christian counseling services, which are so often not true therapy. There are absolutely licensed therapists out there who are Christian and can advertise that. Just hate watching people who have serious mental health problems go to counseling and hating themselves because prayer isn't usually enough to help.

I'm a firm believer that if there is a God, he provided the tools and people to help his flock deal with modern problems. But people often turn away from using these tools or services :(

Health is a threat under fascism.

Why are Democrats never as cool as Republicans say they are? Like they controlled the entire government under Obama and the best we got was making it illegal to not have health insurance.

It's only bad if you're a Shitty Republican Christian who worships Supply Side Jesus.

But that's how single payer systems basically work. It's illegal to not pay into the system because it's illegal to not pay your taxes.

Sure he did, same way Bush won Florida when his brother was in charge of the count.

No, single payer system means a legal guarentee of public health care.

What they did was make it a punishable offense to not have health care. That is very very different. They aren't giving a product that are forcing you to buy a product.

Except it's not a single payer health system is it? It's just giving corporations even more money and therefore power.

My parents are the most MAGA-pilled, Evangelical, racist, sexist, etc., folks you'll find. Fully on board with all of the 'conservative' messaging, and have been their entire lives. They fully think that Communism is some existential threat...

They're also poor. My mom never held down a full time job in her life. Her husband was a Janitor. They live in a community of other like-minded poor people that are close-knit and trade goods, labor, and services to help each other out. Its a while network where people come together to met each other's needs. My mom grows food in her garden and will trade it for chicken eggs. Her husband will use his tractor to help someone grade a road, and get 'paid' in meat by someone who raises cattle, etc. Its a wonderful system and they and their network of friends working within this system are literally communists.

No matter how I've tried to point that out, there is NO getting through the propaganda they've spent their lives bathing in. Its baffling.

Ha, Democrats can't even pass higher minimum wage with a house majority. Even when it was Biden's platform.

Not one standalone bill. They had two years of a majority.

There will be no universal healthcare in the USA until Amazon and Meta decide that we should have universal healthcare.

This reminds me very much of Talladega Nights: "If I let you win, how am I gonna win?"

Are those ads in the corner of the screen? What's going on there lol?

I thought it was a random pile of salsa, but it's a random pile of coffee and cereal just hanging out with the stock ticker.

I'm a firm believer that if there is a God, he provided the tools and people to help his flock deal with modern problems. But people often turn away from using these tools or services :(

One of the most clear expressions of how I feel about such things is 411 years old:

"I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them."

It was originally written by Galileo Galilei, and it's still as relevant now as it was then. This was made into a satire with the joke about the man on a rooftop during a flood who rejects a helicopter, a boat, and a raft, saying that "God will save me;" and who, after drowning, confronts God at the gates of Heaven, who answers his complaints, "I sent you a helicopter, a boat, and a raft, what more did you want?" The fact that something is available to believer and nonbeliever alike should be a cause for rejoicing, not for distrust.

Theologically speaking, God gave us sense, reason, and intellect; not the devil. Trained therapists and mental health professionals are gifts of God, whether they're Christians or not. And, going back to healthcare for all, another gift of God is community; and being able to help one another as a group. But the conservative Christians have been hoodwinked by rich con men into believing that that's socialism, and that mental health is wokeness.

Makes my blood boil.

I'm be real, and ain't nobody wanna hear this but...

Even with full health insurance, most hospitals and doctors in my 50 mile radius area either do not accept patients or are booked out to 5 months. I really think we have a educational problem that's leading to not enough qualified doctors. I also see a lot of "Nurse Practitioners" and actual MDs that are running rounds at multiple area hospitals.

Not only does DJT know that Democrats won't pass Universal Healthcare (setting them up for failure), but doing so would lead to cutting corners on actually educating qualified doctors, possibly leading to more harm than good.

IMO the bigger issue is education, planning, and prioritizing. We (as a Nation) can't go all in on Universal Healthcare without planning and prioritizing education and ensuring that our system can handle the flood of new patients.

Edit: wait, I can see the tsunami coming, I made the mortal mistake of commenting on American affairs. Fuck this shit I'm out.

incarcerated trans black immigrants!

You can open the floodgates but if a plan is not in place to displace the water it'll overcome the system.

The for-profit system is also already slow as balls. It chugs along fine at a snails pace.

To say there's not a educational shortage on degrees that take up to 8+ years in a country that is already facing an educational deficit I think is the real irrational. Planning is an important step that shouldn't just be left as an afterthought.

I just assumed that they were on his desk and would be related to some kind of grocery prices discussion.

So who exactly is this statement supposed to appeal to?

Left leaning voters specifically. He knows Democrats won't be able to bring forth Universal Healthcare in a term or maybe even 2. It's just to rile leftists and set up Democrats for a failure he knows they won't be able to commit to.

So he's conceding that Republicans are going to lose the elections this year and he wants to throw egg into the face of Democrats when they don't provide universal healthcare?

That's... No. No man. Leftists have nothing to do with any of this.

It's something close to 80% of all Americans have their insurance either provided for them through Medicare and Medicaid or the workplace the other 20% is mostly through the healthcare act and the others are paying for themselves or don't have it at all.

The extreme vast majority of the people that he is referring to already have some form of healthcare assistance nobody is going to buy this.

So who is he saying this to? Who's supposed to look at this and go oh my God not free healthcare!?

Voting against your own interests is a common thing that happens in democracies.

he wants to throw egg into the face of Democrats when they don’t provide universal healthcare?

Yes, absolutely. That's just the kind of person he has been so far. Ignorant leftists blame Democrats for not backing Universal Healthcare, DJT points out that that's a possibility if Democrats get majority (which is absolutely is not), it's a simple ploy is all. DJT throws things at the wall constantly to see what sticks.

Look at it creating a buzz here. Surely it's making it's rounds on Reddit, Facebook, and X as well. Unless it's a narrative that him and his cronies keep pushing, it'll be done talked about by tomorrow.

If it does end being a narrative they keep pushing, it makes Democrats look weak as it's not something they can commit to even though it's something a majority of American would want.

The rate at which new doctors are trained in the USA has historically been bottlenecked by the number of residency program slots available. Hospitals financially benefit from each resident they employ, but not as much as they do from adding other roles, instead (such as nurses). Also, it is not trivial to create a new residency program or expand an existing one (accreditation requirements, other fixed costs, etc.). This is why 25 % of USA physicians are immigrants. The Republicans have also made it more expensive to get loans for medical school, which will discourage some people from going to med school in the future, although the insufficient supply of residency slots might still end up being the bottleneck.

But even if we did not increase the supply of doctors, moving to Single Payer would still benefit us by reducing cost. I don't think Single Payer would need to be coupled to increasing the supply of physicians.

Sometimes, I wonder if Trump is actually a leftist who try his best to destroy the US by being as right-wing as he can.

Damn, it's a more multi-faceted issue than I had guessed. The U.S. sure has a long uphill battle ahead...

To be fair, the Democrats had control of Congress during an earlier term too (2009-2011), and in that term they passed the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare). When was the last time the Republicans passed anything beneficial at all, let alone as beneficial as the ACA?

Oh, absolutely. People from the church I grew up in sometimes say such baffling things about socialism and communism. I want to tell them, "know how I learned about social economies? From Sunday afternoon pitch-in dinners. Even though there was going to be food there, people who could bring food still brought it! We all ate until we were sick, there was food left over, and it all tasted fantastic. Sure, we had to cut Elaine's chess pie extra thin so that everyone could get a slice, but there was literally a vat of mashed potatoes and two whole turkeys."

This has always been true, but it honestly feels more true than usual recently.

The only way you'll ever give me free health-care is to pry it into my cold, dead hands.

The number one cause of personal bankruptcy in the USA is healthcare. At this point, what is worse, losing everything to a massive dumpster fire, US healthcare, waiting for treatment or croaking because your health insurance sucks shit.

Until medical costs are capped, ain't gonna happen and the shithole US healthcare system will expand.

The hardest part of American healthcare is buying the tickets to Europe or Mexico for the affordable operation.

I get paid every time I say Carl's Jr. Carl's Jr.

Registered car owners are already forced to have an expensive service (car insurance) in most (all?) states

12 years ago in Houston, my newborn twins had to be transferred to another hospital. They were moved via ambulance. I received a bill for $11,000 from the ambulance company. My company insurance stated ambulances were covered 100%. I asked why I received this bill and they told me this ambulance was out of network. I asked them which ambulance the hospital was supposed to use and they told me all ambulances in Houston were out of network. My company and my residence was located in Houston.

This whole thing is awful.

And? That’s still not single payer car insurance.

Also owning & operating a vehicle is a privilege whereas living & receiving medical care, should be, a right.

Man... Yeah, you're absolutely right. That really is a matter of perspective.

I think what I struggle to understand is how people can intentionally vote against their own interests under the guise of familiarity. Have people genuinely been conditioned to believe that things that benefit society as a whole, and them as individuals, are somehow detrimental to them personally, while those same policies are somehow detrimental to the profits of large corporations?

I don't know, man. It's difficult to wrap my head around how effectively people can be convinced to work against their own interests.

Humans are terrible.

You actually make a very strong case here. You might be right, and I have to admit, it’s just crazy to me that this seemingly senile old man could be capable of such a high level of strategic thinking.

I’ve lived my entire life in this country and lived through the administrations of numerous presidents, but I’ve never seen anything quite like this. This entire administration is operating in ways that feel completely unprecedented in modern American history.

I have never seen the federal government treat immigrants with such abject disdain and discrimination. The racism and sexism are so blatant, so openly displayed, that you would think they’d be enough to turn the American people against this administration. And yet, somehow, those very things seem to energize its supporters rather than alienate them.

I genuinely hope they push things far enough that the American people finally begin to push back in a meaningful way. But then again, we’ve already seen massive protests, and it often feels like they accomplish very little. At some point, you have to wonder what it will take for people to draw a line and demand something better from their government.

I don't understand why we need a plan.

When cheif of the fire department needs more people; They hire more.

When the chief of police needs more deputies; They hire more.

When the chief of medicine needs more nurses... Wait we don't have a cheif of medicine? Hu. Werid...

They are booked out, because the insurance makes them go thru mutliple loops, wasting an insane amount of time. My dentist had to make 4 separate appointments for a root canal/crown, because the insurance required proving each sub-procedure, with x-ray for each one of them, that otherwise wouldn't be required. and I could've had it done in two.

Education isn't the bottleneck, residency is. Plenty of qualified doctors coming out of med school that don't get residency, so they have to try again next year (and compete against fresh grads).

Raising residency limits is, of course, unpopular because it means more doctors, which means less demand, so less pay to cover med school loans...and nobody wants med school to cost less. Least of all the people buying up those loans. Read: rich folk that live on investments.

You're really falling for the fascist lie of "people are getting dumber"