not really, they also launched a tesla to mars awhile back

"an actual flying car" "product demonstration" lmao

It's neither a flying car nor a product that will ever be sold on the market. Crazy how gullible the average person is.

I bet you're one of those people who insisted FSD was right around the corner 10 years ago.

No. I'm just old enough to remember that they did change for very similar reasons.

The plan is for the vehicle to have an air compressor on board, I don't know if the vehicle in the demo has it though.

But yes, compressed air is typically electricity with extra steps.

Musk has perfected the art of bedazzling people with precision controlled compressed gaslighting.

Lets not forget this gem from about 5 years ago

Musk said he would probably launch a humanoid robot prototype next year, which is designed to do 'boring, repetitious and dangerous work'.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euromyth#Straight_bananas

Everything I’ve seen has just been about how stupid this thing is.

The fine print of the deposit agreement says that there’s no guarantee the car will ever be made.

Orginially they were ripp-off caps. I find these literally everywhere while metal detecting...

What do you mean by "faught for this"? UNESDA paid for a contract study against tethered caps so it is clearly not impartial on this, nor is the study.

The report does not specify what this amount of extra plastic is supposed to be. A yearly rate? In any case, just taking randomly the larger number because the transition was 9 months ago is kindergarten math.

The UNESDA isn't writing such an ad, it was buying that ad already over 6 years ago, in order to lobby against the law for tethered caps.

Not everything works like Trump being unable to admit your mistakes. These organizations are commonly interested in improving EU, not purely selfish motives.

I'm pretty sure you blow

Yeah same with environmental protection and climate friendly. Of course they are connected but nuclear energy for example is climate friendly but still bad for the environment.

And the people who aren't precise enough about it are usually out to ridicule people who do care about the ecosphere.

No carbon footprint if it uses solar, wind or nuclear energy.

They believe what? That there was a car using RCS thrusters to quasi-fly made by Tesla?

If you don't believe that, then you're detached from reality.

That's just straight up not true, you need to build the dammed things and that leaves s big footprint.

Okay so what do you want to do? Go back to the stone age? Get of your phone and follow the ways of Ted Kaczynski.

Nuclear, solar, wind, hydro

Could also be Hydrazine. But that still would only result in nitrogen and hydrogen

That thing uses nitrogen to do that silly bunnyhop, but compressing all that nitrogen is what has the carbon footprint.

Ohh, I'm sorry, I didn't realise it wasn't going to be sold in the US.

That is an enormous relief.

https://www.iea.org/countries/united-states/electricity

So it's either out-of-control consumer production or back to stone age? No in between?

You should look outside of lemmy. In my circle people are genuinely impressed.

I could be done with solar power. Of all the criticism Musk deserves, the carbon footprint of a one-off show is not in the top 30.

Folks on YouTube seem unimpressed as well

So complaining billionaires don't care about carbon footprint while showcasing an electric car doing stunts using compressed air rather than combustible fuels......brain rot level argument.

I have my own issues with musk but it's hard to fault him based on on fossil fuels. Guy is in the solar, electric car and electrical power storage businesses (among others). Not like the naked climate denial of others billionaires' whose profits are directly tied to oil.

hard to fault him based on on fossil fuels

It's not at all hard. He's only green for government subsidies.

Falcon 9: Uses refined kerosene (RP-1) and liquid oxygen (LOX). Each launch burns about 112 tons of kerosene and releases roughly 336 tons of CO₂.

Starship & Super Heavy: Uses liquid methane (CH₄) and liquid oxygen (LOX) in its Raptor engines. A full launch emits around 3,500 to 76,000 metric tons of CO₂.

xAI has installed 59 natural gas turbines for its Colossus 2 data center generating between 6.4 million and 8 million tons of CO2 equivalent emissions per year if operated full-time

This is a Flying Car. Musk has built a Fast and Furious jumping stunt car.

I have no idea where you have the idea from that UNESDA was for tethered caps, at any point. You linked to an ad from UNESDA from before 2020 and quoted a contract PWC study from that time. All against it. Many of the assumptions in that study have become either obsolete or were shown to be wrong.

Not to mention ElonJet, he personally releases tons of CO2 emissions on a regular basis.

The anti-EU narratives have been pushed so widely, also by Musk himself, that even comics like the one above are spreading them uncritically. The tethered caps are not about reducing carbon footprint but about reducing waste in our environment and high costs of cleaning efforts. Yet another EU myth, especially popular among tech bros btw.

How about just acknowledge the obvious downside and not making stuff up, dolt.

I bet you have your mittens attached to your coat so you won't lose them too.

Assuming the same number of panels, if you use X amount of solar power to do Y, then X amount of solar power isn't available for something else and it has to use non-solar. The only thing that increases solar is adding more panels, rather than nitpicking which thing used the solar and which didn't.

The use of energy generally is non-green as long as non-green is a major part of the energy market. Ascribing some end uses of energy as green or non-green is silly and wrong. It is only the production end that can be green or non-green. On the use end all energy is equal.

Don't forget that oil companies go green only for oil production, the oil they produce is not counted.

Buy those in the circle some helmets.

Bottle caps being attached is about the bottle and the cap being recycled/landfilled together instead of caps ending up in a different location. This works well with the return money you get for recycling bottles so everything gets disposed properly.

The general idea is that plastic in the environment is more of a problem than pollution from producing the little extra per bottle. Microplastics from plastics that don't make it to the landfill are becoming a big issue and the EU is working on it.

Refitting machines to produce them is also not a big issue since that's a one-time cost for not that many machines.

Enough people to warrant the regulation apparently.

Yeah, and I'm sure the production model in 2028 (or much, much later, knowing Elon), will be a slimmed down shadow of this thing. I'd feel bad for the sorry saps that fall for it, but they've clearly learned nothing over the past decade.

Yeah - they did a survey on european beaches and checked which plastic items they were finding. And then they tried to find a way to solve the issue by regulating the production. They did find a lot of bottle caps and plastic q-tips and then they did something against that. That is a really good way of doing things.

Found this video here: https://www.mirrorthevideo.com/watch?v=c1aeTb8-4DA

It honestly seems decently useful while driving to avoid interacting with any physical (or touchscreen...) controls, but it would be much cooler if it wasn't in a Tesla and wasn't MechaHitler Grok*

an electric car doing stunts using compressed air

Do you know how much energy it would take to compress that much air?

The car they showed apparently had about 600L of air compressed down to 440 bar. Doing that would take at least 500 MJ, more than double just charging the car. That's wasting a vast amount of energy, much of which will be created by burning carbon.

Regardless, the point of the comic isn't to say "This car sure burns a lot of carbon". It's basically the feeling of constantly being asked to make small but annoying sacrifices to save the planet while other people burn so much energy in a few seconds that all the little annoyances you put up with to try to help are erased instantly.

anti-EU narratives

A bit rich from someone who loudly proclaims Russia's invasion of Ukraine is Ukraine's fault.

That said, anti-EU memes using the tethered caps myth are commonly found on right populist sites, so no, it is not a conspiracy.

Yeah, I think it was basically the RCS unit from a Space-X rocket stuffed into a car-shaped frame with some parts from an electric golf cart glued in there to move it around on the wheels.

Fair points, but let's say we use all this political effort and resources to fix plastic recycling itself and collection of trash.

Where do you see more positive effects?

anti-EU narratives

I believe this one is anti musk