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Sahwa
reddthat.com
throws_lemy@reddthat.comJoined: 2023-07-04 |
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Ariselas
piefed.ca
Ariselas@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-03-14 |
let it pop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zUUtf7gOe8 |
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trojanbark
lemmy.world
trojanbark@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-13 |
don't stop, i'm so close |
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queermunist she/her
lemmy.ml
queermunist@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-07-10 |
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Pratai
piefed.ca
Pratai@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-02-12 |
It won’t. Bubbles don’t burst. |
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apfelwoiSchoppen
lemmy.world
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-10-01 |
If so, the technobros did this. The technobros should receive most of the consequences. There should be dire consequences but we all know who will receive most of that. The system is broken. |
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mika june [she|her]
piefed.blahaj.zone
crowcore_explorer@piefed.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2026-08-23 |
If so, the technobros did this. The technobros should receive most of the consequences. There should be dire consequences but we all know who will receive most of that. The system is broken.
in a sane world. in this world, where the system is working as intended, tech bros will reap rewards at our expense. hopefully the working class response will be of a scale commensurate with the scale of the injustice. |
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deeprlyeh
lemmus.org
deeprlyeh@lemmus.org Joined: 2026-08-14 |
If profits are what will make it fail. It is going to fail. They need everyone to subscribe to their premium tiers at this point. |
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apfelwoiSchoppen
lemmy.world
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-10-01 |
in a sane world. in this world, where the system is working as intended, tech bros will reap rewards at our expense. hopefully the working class response will be of a scale commensurate with the scale of the injustice.
I'll stand with you! ✊ |
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remon
ani.social
remon@ani.social Joined: 2024-09-25 |
Let's hope so! |
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Asafum
lemmy.world
Asafum@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-20 |
"Greedy shitbag tech bros pushed it. Greedy shitbag investors threw every penny at it. So whoops, the whole world is held hostage. Sorry fuckos, you, John and Jane public, are going to pay to save the global economy. Greedy fucksticks aren't allowed to lose." ...can't wait. |
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lauha
lemmy.world
lauha@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-29 |
If so, the technobros did this. The technobros should receive most of the consequences. There should be dire consequences but we all know who will receive most of that. The system is broken.
Remembet that they don't have the money to do it. It's also investors to blame. |
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one_old_coder
piefed.social
one_old_coder@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-08 |
That would be awful, we must save them and give all our money to their wonderful project. We will sacrifice ourselves and live in the woods while they improve their drunk chatbot that should cure cancer any minute now. |
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apfelwoiSchoppen
lemmy.world
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-10-01 |
Remembet that they don't have the money to do it. It's also investors to blame.
Oh absolutely, investors doing no due diligence on their part is complicity. |
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haywire
lemmy.world
haywire7@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-14 |
The economy as it stands is a house of cards built on promises no one keeps but enough people believe. I have never claimed to be an expert on anything but the moment you let the fate of something rest on the guess of how much it will cost if everything goes the way you think it will, when the other half of the room hope it goes the other way seems mad. |
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bigmclargehuge
lemmy.zip
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-18 |
If profits are what will make it fail. It is going to fail. They need everyone to subscribe to their premium tiers at this point.
Wouldn’t matter. The cost to execute the tokens is greater than the subscription. It’s all VC funds that they’re burning every day. It’s inevitable to fail unless they can convince every day users to pay $2k a month |
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CompactFlax
discuss.tchncs.de
CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de Joined: 2025-02-14 |
If profits are what will make it fail. It is going to fail. They need everyone to subscribe to their premium tiers at this point.
API costs start to approach the operating costs of these systems. The ultra premium subscription tiers still lose money. Tech has high market value because there’s the potential for growth, and the cost to grow is minimal after the initial startup costs. Adding a subscriber to a newspaper costs, say $0.20 for each subscriber; adding a Facebook user has a cost approaching zero as the user count grows. The problem with GenAI is that the inference cost grows linearly with usage, and the constant creation of new models means the training costs are also not recouped. The debt the datacenter builders are taking on are being traded as junk with high interest rates already, and they’re going higher. They’ll never generate the income that the rates demand much less recoup the cost of building. |
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Tartufo
lemmy.world
Tartufo@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-28 |
Wouldn’t matter. The cost to execute the tokens is greater than the subscription. It’s all VC funds that they’re burning every day. It’s inevitable to fail unless they can convince every day users to pay $2k a month
I'd pay them 2k a month for every month they pay me 10k for. Ofc I need to be paid first because otherwise I won't have the money to pay them and still comfortably live. |
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recursive_recursion
piefed.ca
recursive_recursion@piefed.caJoined: 2025-06-06 |
If the thing we call an economy no longer becomes sustainable, maybe going to QUD mechanics of trade or going back to bartering might become a thing. |
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JustTesting
lemmy.hogru.ch
JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.ch Joined: 2023-06-25 |
API costs start to approach the operating costs of these systems. The ultra premium subscription tiers still lose money. Tech has high market value because there’s the potential for growth, and the cost to grow is minimal after the initial startup costs. Adding a subscriber to a newspaper costs, say $0.20 for each subscriber; adding a Facebook user has a cost approaching zero as the user count ...
probably even slightly more than linear at this point as they use up so much electricity and other resources that it becomes more and more expensive to serve more users. User 1 is easy, that's just the existing data center. User 1 million, well, you need a new datacenter and drive up hardware prices, but it's fine. User 10 million, you need to build/rent gas power plants, figure out where to get water from, RAM and everything costs 5 times as much as it used to, bribe local politicians to build despite backlash etc. |
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thechosen2nd
piefed.social
thechosen2nd@piefed.social Joined: 2026-02-03 |
Good |
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funkreddit
lemmy.zip
funkreddit@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-01 |
Burn it all down!!! Shits not sustainable nor stable for 90% of the world population!!! Burn it all down, tech dweebs! |
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bigmclargehuge
lemmy.zip
bigmclargehuge@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-08-18 |
I'd pay them 2k a month for every month they pay me 10k for. Ofc I need to be paid first because otherwise I won't have the money to pay them and still comfortably live.
No that’s kinda the point. If AI charged for actual cost, no one could afford it. It’s all subsidized now. Basically a money shredder |
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Tartufo
lemmy.world
Tartufo@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-28 |
No that’s kinda the point. If AI charged for actual cost, no one could afford it. It’s all subsidized now. Basically a money shredder
I know, I was making fun of them by suggesting a "give me your money and then I'll give you some of my money"-circlejerk because that can never be sustainable in the long run. |
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tfm
europe.pub
tfm@europe.pub Joined: 2025-03-13 |
Could???? |
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Chessmasterrex
lemmy.world
Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
🤞🤞🤞 |
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shalafi
lemmy.world
shalafi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-22 |
Buffett Index: total stock valuation vs. GDP 1928: 130% 2007: 130% 2025: 220% Now guess where most of that stock growth and GDP came from? I'll give ya three guesses, but you're only going to need one. |
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A_Random_Idiot
lemmy.world
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-05 |
Good. |
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Techlos
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Techlos@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-06-19 |
Buffett Index: total stock valuation vs. GDP 1928: 130% 2007: 130% 2025: 220% Now guess where most of that stock growth and GDP came from? I'll give ya three guesses, but you're only going to need one.
unexpectedly good churro sales? |
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some_kind_of_guy
lemmy.world
some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-07-14 |
Could????
Find out by tuning into the next season of The Economy! |
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Noxy
pawb.social
noxypaws@pawb.socialJoined: 2024-12-16 |
If the thing we call an economy no longer becomes sustainable, maybe going to QUD mechanics of trade or going back to bartering might become a thing.
Live and drink, friend! |
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log
lemmy.blahaj.zone
log@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2026-09-30 |
What profits? Nobody has money to spend and llm companies lose money on $200/mo subscriptions. |
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SaharaMaleikuhm
feddit.org
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org Joined: 2024-07-23 |
Yeah, well I warned them, but did they listen? |
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Anti_Iridium
lemmy.world
Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-26 |
unexpectedly good churro sales?
The Legend of the Whopperito™? |
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FiniteBanjo
feddit.online
FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-12-23 |
TBH I don't see how it could take anything with it. The money invested will still exist except for interest on loans and unrealized gains which don't actually exist because of overvaluation. This isnt like the mortgage crisis. Anybody who gets fucked over by this crash deserves it. In fact, the longer this is allowed to go on without crashing the more money people like Jason Huang siphons from pensions. |
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FiniteBanjo
feddit.online
FiniteBanjo@feddit.onlineJoined: 2025-12-23 |
That would be awful, we must save them and give all our money to their wonderful project. We will sacrifice ourselves and live in the woods while they improve their drunk chatbot that should cure cancer any minute now.
/s mandatory |
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darthsundhaft
piefed.social
darthsundhaft@piefed.social Joined: 2026-01-19 |
Then we riot. |
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BigPotato
lemmy.world
BigPotato@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
COVID took the global economy with it. Losing AI would be like... I don't even know, insignificantly small compared to that. If AI up and disappeared tomorrow when I clocked into work, it might actually make my job easier. I could be even more productive without having the slop floodgates open every day. |
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Jason2357
lemmy.ca
Jason2357@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-11 |
If so, the technobros did this. The technobros should receive most of the consequences. There should be dire consequences but we all know who will receive most of that. The system is broken.
Sorry. The techbros will get bailouts. Its the pensioners that will starve. |
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wewbull
feddit.uk
wewbull@feddit.uk Joined: 2023-06-22 |
TBH I don't see how it could take anything with it. The money invested will still exist except for interest on loans and unrealized gains which don't actually exist because of overvaluation. This isnt like the mortgage crisis. Anybody who gets fucked over by this crash deserves it. In fact, the longer this is allowed to go on without crashing the more money people like Jason Huang siphons from ...
2 exceptions to what you said.
The money loaned still exists, you're right. Trouble is it's not in the AI companies anymore. It's been spent. It's gone through them out to other companies (like Nvidia, MS Azure, AWS, Google Cloud, etc). |
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Bubbaonthebeach
lemmy.ca
Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-02-15 |
Yeah the "business" tycoons do that every decade or so. Some busts are bigger than others. Not much any of us can do about it unless we tax the hell out of corps and wealthy so that they can't build enough self serving shit to then dump the economy once they've scraped as much money as they can in the current cycle. |
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FreshLight
sh.itjust.works
FreshLight@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-14 |
If so, the technobros did this. The technobros should receive most of the consequences. There should be dire consequences but we all know who will receive most of that. The system is broken.
*Techbros |
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Spice Hoarder
lemmy.zip
spicehoarder@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-29 |
Yeah the "business" tycoons do that every decade or so. Some busts are bigger than others. Not much any of us can do about it unless we tax the hell out of corps and wealthy so that they can't build enough self serving shit to then dump the economy once they've scraped as much money as they can in the current cycle.
I'm convinced at this point the goal is to just not use money. Why do we have to be tied to this shitty fiat currency that isn't directly tied to physical worth? |
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NuanceDemon
lemmy.dbzer0.com
NuanceDemon@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2026-08-31 |
The economy isnt going anywhere its just going into a recession again, nothing you havent seen before if you were born before the Bush administration. |
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Tollana1234567
lemmy.today
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-06-04 |
thats rich coming from the IMF. |
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heartSagan5
lemmy.zip
heartSagan5@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-05-27 |
DUH. The Great Depression of 1929, and it took the world economy, and it fomented into World War. |
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altphoto
lemmy.today
altphoto@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-04-14 |
The Legend of the Whopperito™?
I can't believe it's not salsa? |
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Aceticon
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-06 |
No shit, Sherlock! |
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☂️-
lemmy.ml
umbrella@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-07-12 |
If so, the technobros did this. The technobros should receive most of the consequences. There should be dire consequences but we all know who will receive most of that. The system is broken.
you will have to dish out those consequences otherwise it won't happen. |
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Xerxos
lemmy.ml
Xerxos@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-11-19 |
The whole AI bubble is just one big bet: "AGI is around the corner and will replace all white collar jobs" Now, LLMs get slowly better but aren't AGI and it's unclear if our current approach is even capable of reaching AGI. Sadly the US went 'all-in' on the bet and everyone except the ultra rich will feel the pain. |
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Cherry
piefed.social
Cherry@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-05 |
Burn it all down!!! Shits not sustainable nor stable for 90% of the world population!!! Burn it all down, tech dweebs!
It’s not just sustainability. Dicks who think they can rule the world need a reminder of thier mortality. |
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