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justdaveisfine piefed.social justdaveisfine@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-23
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Two men are talking. One says "I hate social media now. Its all ads and ragebait." The second man says "why not the fediverse? Its community ran and not focused on engagement metrics so its..." The first man cuts him off, "Nah, I'm done signing up for any social media. Everything I've been on is just to toxic." Then the man continues to doomscroll on social media.

I don't know how some people stay on [big social media] while constantly hating being on [big social media].

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cannibalkitteh piefed.blahaj.zone cannibalkitteh@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-11-24
#2 · Quote Reply

Most people I talk to pretend like it's too complex. They're upset about a single company controlling their social media, but scared about not having that.

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Walters, Fern bookwyr.me waltersf@bookwyr.me
Joined: 2026-08-23
#3 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yard Sale. People stay in big places, because it gives them access to a wider pool of people. Veritasium also replicated this theory.

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ikt aussie.zone Eyekaytee@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-06-17
#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

lemmy is literally the same, in fact id say of all the social medias i’ve been on this place is the worst and most toxic and most political

you cannot escape american politics it’s everywhere, community doesn’t matter, this place is like 90% politics 10% linux which is also somehow political

anyone whose opinion isn’t strictly left wing is constantly dogpiled and banned, this place is not the alternative to social media

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-10
#5 · Quote Reply

lemmy is literally the same, in fact id say of all the social medias i’ve been on this place is the worst and most toxic and most political you cannot escape american politics it’s everywhere, community doesn’t matter, this place is like 90% politics 10% linux which is also somehow political anyone whose opinion isn’t strictly left wing is constantly dogpiled and banned, this place is not the a...

Political alignment doesn't preclude people from being stupid. At a certain point you have to remember that people being wrong on the internet isn't your problem.

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Edges lemmy.zip Edges@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-15
#6 · Quote Reply

lemmy is literally the same, in fact id say of all the social medias i’ve been on this place is the worst and most toxic and most political you cannot escape american politics it’s everywhere, community doesn’t matter, this place is like 90% politics 10% linux which is also somehow political anyone whose opinion isn’t strictly left wing is constantly dogpiled and banned, this place is not the a...

I mean most of your recent posts are politics. Maybe not american politics but still politics.

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Edges lemmy.zip Edges@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-15
#7 · Quote Reply

I was very frustrated at everyone getting mad at twitter, and then going to bluesky instead of mastodon.

At a certain point, once everyone is there everyone else has to go there.

I will say fedi right now has a pretty good vibe. Some of the more negative/angry people have left and its been a chill little community lately.

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Freeposity lemmy.world Freeposity@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-27
#8 · (edited) Quote Reply

It's community run

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Freeposity lemmy.world Freeposity@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-27
#9 · Quote Reply

lemmy is literally the same, in fact id say of all the social medias i’ve been on this place is the worst and most toxic and most political you cannot escape american politics it’s everywhere, community doesn’t matter, this place is like 90% politics 10% linux which is also somehow political anyone whose opinion isn’t strictly left wing is constantly dogpiled and banned, this place is not the a...

That's a weird sentiment coming from a moderator of worldnews.

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RustyNova lemmy.world RustyNova@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-24
#10 · Quote Reply

I was very frustrated at everyone getting mad at twitter, and then going to bluesky instead of mastodon. At a certain point, once everyone is there everyone else has to go there. I will say fedi right now has a pretty good vibe. Some of the more negative/angry people have left and its been a chill little community lately.

At least with bluesky you can bridge to the fediverse and vice versa. So you can keep it comfy on the fediverse

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lividweasel lemmy.world lividweasel@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-05
#11 · Quote Reply

It's community run

or maybe we just all ran away.

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MutantTailThing lemmy.world MutantTailThing@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-10-23
#12 · (edited) Quote Reply

lemmy is literally the same, in fact id say of all the social medias i’ve been on this place is the worst and most toxic and most political you cannot escape american politics it’s everywhere, community doesn’t matter, this place is like 90% politics 10% linux which is also somehow political anyone whose opinion isn’t strictly left wing is constantly dogpiled and banned, this place is not the a...

And god forbid you call hamas a terrorist organisation.

Edit: see what I mean?

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bridgeenjoyer sh.itjust.works bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-06
#13 · Quote Reply

Most people I talk to pretend like it's too complex. They're upset about a single company controlling their social media, but scared about not having that.

I gave up trying once I realized the large majority of humans today dont know what a filepath is.

I'll retreat to my cave now.

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kingofras lemmy.world kingofras@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-05-13
#14 · Quote Reply

That's a weird sentiment coming from a moderator of worldnews.

I disagree with the person you respond to on many things, but if you’re around here for a while, it is obvious. Lemmy is dying, and more importantly, it is extremifying and openly advocating for violence, which is pretty bad.

A large portion of Lemmy is very comfortable cencoring any pro-democracy notion. There is a radical group calling themselves left, communist, socialist and anti imperialist, but they actually want trump to keep running things, because that might bring down the US the fastest.

They don’t like the Palestinian genocide, but don’t mind the other one, and are also totally okay with 330m americans suffering just for their political gain. That ideology is carried by the creators of Lemmy, and spreading outside the OG instance.

Lemmy will not survive unless serious and decisive action is taken by intance admins to curb the radicalisation.

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TheMinions lemmy.dbzer0.com TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-06-26
#15 · Quote Reply

Yard Sale. People stay in big places, because it gives them access to a wider pool of people. Veritasium also replicated this theory.

Yeah this is pretty much the only reason I still use any social media like YouTube, Facebook, and Reddit.

YouTube cause I like the long form video essays (yes I know Nebula exists, but I am cheap).

Reddit for the niche communities that aren’t really popular here (Lemmy is my shitpost haven though).

Facebook only exists for me because of Facebook Marketplace and literally no other reason.

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TheMinions lemmy.dbzer0.com TheMinions@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-06-26
#16 · Quote Reply

lemmy is literally the same, in fact id say of all the social medias i’ve been on this place is the worst and most toxic and most political you cannot escape american politics it’s everywhere, community doesn’t matter, this place is like 90% politics 10% linux which is also somehow political anyone whose opinion isn’t strictly left wing is constantly dogpiled and banned, this place is not the a...

There’s some ragebait here and there on Fedi, but it’s homegrown ragebait so it’s fine.

Can’t say I’ve seen any ads on here? Unless you count the Rule 63 Malfoy stuff that has been popping up all over the internet. At least in recent memory. Or the game deals community haha.

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Freeposity lemmy.world Freeposity@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-04-27
#17 · Quote Reply

I disagree with the person you respond to on many things, but if you’re around here for a while, it is obvious. Lemmy is dying, and more importantly, it is extremifying and openly advocating for violence, which is pretty bad. A large portion of Lemmy is very comfortable cencoring any pro-democracy notion. There is a radical group calling themselves left, communist, socialist and anti imperialis...

because that might bring down the US the fastest.

So they are accelerationists.

They don’t like the Palestinian genocide, but don’t mind the other one

Sudan, Myanmar, China?

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orca orcas.enjoying.yachts orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
Joined: 2023-07-07
#18 · (edited) Quote Reply

I’m one dude paying out of pocket to have a tiny instance (up for 3 years now) on the web that anyone can sign up on. No shareholders, no ads, no requests for payment or donation, no data hoarding or selling. With all of that in mind, people still won’t leave social media and sign up. They don’t actually know what they want because doomscrolling has them hooked. It would be fine if they deleted their accounts, signed up for nothing else, and went out to touch grass. But they won’t do that. They’ll, at most, ditch it for like a day or two and then go right back to old habits.

Paris is burning yet again because the working class is pissed off. The most the US will do is Go VoTe. We have zero self-control or drive here.

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Apepollo11 lemmy.world Apepollo11@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#19 · Quote Reply

The trouble is, there's a bunch of awful people on the fediverse too.

I have absolutely no appetite for requiring ID to use social media, but the anonymity in any social media platform, regardless of its popularity, brings out the worst in some people.

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orca orcas.enjoying.yachts orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
Joined: 2023-07-07
#20 · Quote Reply

The trouble is, there's a bunch of awful people on the fediverse too. I have absolutely no appetite for requiring ID to use social media, but the anonymity in any social media platform, regardless of its popularity, brings out the worst in some people.

More folks need to get comfortable with the block button. I have a list of users blocked for being shitty, but there sometimes seems to be this weird mentality that blocking users instead of debating them is weak or something.

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ikt aussie.zone Eyekaytee@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-06-17
#21 · Quote Reply

I mean most of your recent posts are politics. Maybe not american politics but still politics.

the nrl community is dead, the ai community is dead, mistral comm is dead, brisbane comm is dead, fitness dead, is there a gym comm? hardstyle dead, lemmy shitpost: https://lemmy.world/post/53465720 full of american politics, technology full of anti-ai and anti-big tech articles (honestly tiring after 4 million articles on the same thing), no economic comm that isn’t american and iirc that one is also pretty much dead, there’s practically 0 australian content here, what do you propose I post about? maybe i should make some more posts in dead comms for people to go though my history and downvote them?

tbh im mainly bitching because i’m disappointed, i can’t force the people who post here to care about other things so all i can do is whine

also insert “we should improve society somewhat” meme here

pps. dw as said ill be gone as soon as something better comes along

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mesa piefed.social mesamunefire@piefed.social
Joined: 2024-12-27
#22 · Quote Reply

Yard Sale. People stay in big places, because it gives them access to a wider pool of people. Veritasium also replicated this theory.

Wow this is a really good link. Thanks. Im reading through this now.

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mesa piefed.social mesamunefire@piefed.social
Joined: 2024-12-27
#23 · (edited) Quote Reply

At least with bluesky you can bridge to the fediverse and vice versa. So you can keep it comfy on the fediverse

Yeah I do that on my personal gotosocial instance. Works well actually.

I wish there was a really lightweight version of piefed/lemmy that can work on a tiny pi instance like my gotosocial. But this instance is good too.

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mildseason sopuli.xyz mildseason@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2026-07-21
#24 · Quote Reply

Fedi does suck in your not into tech or leftist politics. Those are where the bulk of the content comes from. The memes can be funny sometimes but the lack of video clips really holds it back. People love short video clips but they're expensive to host. Catbox.moe is a good solution but you're still pretty restricted in the size of clips you can upload.

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bjc scribe.disroot.org bjc@scribe.disroot.org
Joined: 2026-04-20
#25 · Quote Reply

it's community run

this shit makes me so mad

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-10
#26 · Quote Reply

I gave up trying once I realized the large majority of humans today dont know what a filepath is. I'll retreat to my cave now.

dont know what a filepath is.

I have a friend who teaches a highschool computer elective and lesson 01 is Folders, creating them, what they are, etc.

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Guy Dudeman lemmy.world GuyDudeman@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-05
#27 · Quote Reply

Fedi does suck in your not into tech or leftist politics. Those are where the bulk of the content comes from. The memes can be funny sometimes but the lack of video clips really holds it back. People love short video clips but they're expensive to host. Catbox.moe is a good solution but you're still pretty restricted in the size of clips you can upload.

If you're not into leftist politics, I don't really want you on fedi to begin with.

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zaphod sopuli.xyz zaphod@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-12-04
#28 · Quote Reply

If you're not into leftist politics, I don't really want you on fedi to begin with.

As long as they don't help Nazis into power I don't care too much.

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NotAnOtter lemmus.org NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
Joined: 2026-09-26
#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

If you're not into leftist politics, I don't really want you on fedi to begin with.

Right so do you see how people that don't have The Correct Opinion would view this as toxic.

I get it. We all hate the right here. You don't need to lecture me on that. My point is that toxicity mostly emerges from people hating people that don't have identical opinions as them. Slightly to the right = nazi. Slightly to the left = tankie.

Just chill my guy

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NotAnOtter lemmus.org NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
Joined: 2026-09-26
#30 · Quote Reply

it's community run this shit makes me so mad

A grammatical error in a lazy comic made you extremely mad?

Brother..

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Guy Dudeman lemmy.world GuyDudeman@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-05
#31 · Quote Reply

Right so do you see how people that don't have The Correct Opinion would view this as toxic. I get it. We all hate the right here. You don't need to lecture me on that. My point is that toxicity mostly emerges from people hating people that don't have identical opinions as them. Slightly to the right = nazi. Slightly to the left = tankie. Just chill my guy

You wouldn’t understand. You’re not an otter.

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anewfox lemmy.zip anewfox@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-08-07
#32 · (edited) Quote Reply

Fedi does suck in your not into tech or leftist politics. Those are where the bulk of the content comes from. The memes can be funny sometimes but the lack of video clips really holds it back. People love short video clips but they're expensive to host. Catbox.moe is a good solution but you're still pretty restricted in the size of clips you can upload.

it sucks if you actually read the articles that get posted and don't like 8-10 year old memes from reddit.

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Kangae_Hishiryo scribe.disroot.org Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org
Joined: 2026-04-13
#33 · Quote Reply

the nrl community is dead, the ai community is dead, mistral comm is dead, brisbane comm is dead, fitness dead, is there a gym comm? hardstyle dead, lemmy shitpost: https://lemmy.world/post/53465720 full of american politics, technology full of anti-ai and anti-big tech articles (honestly tiring after 4 million articles on the same thing), no economic comm that isn’t american and iirc that one ...

Well, anti-AI and anti-Big-Tech are on the correct side tho

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Guy Dudeman lemmy.world GuyDudeman@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-05
#34 · Quote Reply

lemmy is literally the same, in fact id say of all the social medias i’ve been on this place is the worst and most toxic and most political you cannot escape american politics it’s everywhere, community doesn’t matter, this place is like 90% politics 10% linux which is also somehow political anyone whose opinion isn’t strictly left wing is constantly dogpiled and banned, this place is not the a...

Lighten up, francis.

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NotAnOtter lemmus.org NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
Joined: 2026-09-26
#35 · Quote Reply

You wouldn’t understand. You’re not an otter.

People are downvoting you but fwiw I think it was an ok joke

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jumping redditor [they/them] sh.itjust.works jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-30
#36 · Quote Reply

Most people I talk to pretend like it's too complex. They're upset about a single company controlling their social media, but scared about not having that.

it is significantly harder to find the "right" instance if you want to actually see varied content and not just leftyslop and tech.

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trepli lemmy.ml trepli@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2026-03-26
#37 · Quote Reply

Yard Sale. People stay in big places, because it gives them access to a wider pool of people. Veritasium also replicated this theory.

1000-976 (51%), i call it a win (lost my money but anyway they are fictional)

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NotAnOtter lemmus.org NotAnOtter@lemmus.org
Joined: 2026-09-26
#38 · (edited) Quote Reply

People are downvoting you but fwiw I think it was an ok joke

There are a wide range of conservative opinions that I don’t find problematic. Certainly some are but same can be said for any party. I’m not an “enlightened centrist” guy, certainly the American Republicans/Maga are fucking awful. But that is just one manifestation of a range of policies.

If you can’t differentiate someone that is simply conservative vs someone who is full throated MAGA then that’s more of a political literacy issue YOU have. Someone isn’t evil simply for wanting reduced taxes or less immigration or reduced “sexual positivity”. There are ethical forms of these policies.

And because it’s mandatory on a forum based platform - no, I’m not conservative. Im further left than most of you. I’m just also less emotionally charged.

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bridgeenjoyer sh.itjust.works bridgeenjoyer@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-06
#39 · Quote Reply

dont know what a filepath is. I have a friend who teaches a highschool computer elective and lesson 01 is Folders, creating them, what they are, etc.

Thank goodness. But shouldnt that be elementary? I was doing that when I was like...6...and there was no internet.

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IlCaviale lemmy.world IlCaviale@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-21
#40 · (edited) Quote Reply

Maybe if they didn't copy and paste the social media they're allegedly fleeing from, with all of its dark patterns minus the ad networks, people would take this shithole seriously. They don't because it just enforces a new form of groupthink which is still brainrotted by american idpol. I'm tired boss. I want to say slurs online without the thought police coming to get me. While also being a leftist. I'm contradictory like that, you see. Blinded by hate and so on and so forth. eating from the trash can of ideology. and I still want to call people retards when they're being fucking retards; fight me.

If you need any evidence just read the other comments in this thread: everyone is virtue signaling that they're on the good team, then they're infighting to define what that team even is. In my book, it's a bunch of retards. OP is also a retard for posting their room temperature IQ takes as an image instead of as text. Exactly the sort of brainlet takes that social media encourages.

Also just because you can use mspaint it doesn't mean that your strawman comics are worth looking at. See? This is what I miss. Being an asshole online so that people can look at their own output and consider that maybe it does suck, and maybe they do need to put in more effort. That's the sort of feedback that people can work on, because it directly attacks their ego. Oh well.

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BillyClark piefed.social BillyClark@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-01-21
#41 · Quote Reply

it sucks if you actually read the articles that get posted and don't like 8-10 year old memes from reddit.

8-10 year old memes from reddit

Those communities' members are mainly 8-10 year olds, so it all adds up.

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BillyClark piefed.social BillyClark@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-01-21
#42 · Quote Reply

If you're not into leftist politics, I don't really want you on fedi to begin with.

That makes an echo chamber. I care more about people's ability to have adult conversations than I do about their specific politics, but it seems like that criteria eliminates the overwhelming majority of modern conservatives from consideration.

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justdaveisfine piefed.social justdaveisfine@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-23
#43 · Quote Reply

Maybe if they didn't copy and paste the social media they're allegedly fleeing from, with all of its dark patterns minus the ad networks, people would take this shithole seriously. They don't because it just enforces a new form of groupthink which is still brainrotted by american idpol. I'm tired boss. I want to say slurs online without the thought police coming to get me. While also being a le...

I'm actually surprised no ones bopped me for the comic quality yet (until now), but yeah it also has nearly the same slide 3x.

If I upload another one, I'll try something a little fancier than oval people lol

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bantering lemmy.zip bantering@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-10-14
#44 · Quote Reply

Maybe if they didn't copy and paste the social media they're allegedly fleeing from, with all of its dark patterns minus the ad networks, people would take this shithole seriously. They don't because it just enforces a new form of groupthink which is still brainrotted by american idpol. I'm tired boss. I want to say slurs online without the thought police coming to get me. While also being a le...

I’m team this guy!

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heartSagan5 lemmy.zip heartSagan5@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-05-27
#45 · (edited) Quote Reply

Fedi does suck in your not into tech or leftist politics. Those are where the bulk of the content comes from. The memes can be funny sometimes but the lack of video clips really holds it back. People love short video clips but they're expensive to host. Catbox.moe is a good solution but you're still pretty restricted in the size of clips you can upload.

People love short video clips but they’re expensive to host

Because we all have the attention span of a dog. In some, that's just unmanaged ADHD. In others, it's because it's our lovable movies in short formats so we're trained 🤤

To help with attention span, read some long form fiction for once. Any kind, just read something over 80 pages. Libraries are free.

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cannibalkitteh piefed.blahaj.zone cannibalkitteh@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-11-24
#46 · Quote Reply

it is significantly harder to find the "right" instance if you want to actually see varied content and not just leftyslop and tech.

With federation, you shouldn't need to consider that, browse, and participate with remote instances freely. Unless what you want to see is largely defederated, in which case, you should probably think about why it's against the social contract of so many instances.

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Guy Dudeman lemmy.world GuyDudeman@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-05
#47 · Quote Reply

There are a wide range of conservative opinions that I don’t find problematic. Certainly some are but same can be said for any party. I’m not an “enlightened centrist” guy, certainly the American Republicans/Maga are fucking awful. But that is just one manifestation of a range of policies. If you can’t differentiate someone that is simply conservative vs someone who is full throated MAGA then t...

Hmmm you might be an otter after all… in which case you’re a liar, and not to be trusted. And therefore not an otter, because we are honorable and trustworthy. Which means you’re not a liar after all.

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Guy Dudeman lemmy.world GuyDudeman@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-05
#48 · (edited) Quote Reply

That makes an echo chamber. I care more about people's ability to have adult conversations than I do about their specific politics, but it seems like that criteria eliminates the overwhelming majority of modern conservatives from consideration.

Tankies can fuck off too, for the record. (He says, on a platform created by tankies)

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BillyClark piefed.social BillyClark@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-01-21
#49 · Quote Reply

Tankies can fuck off too, for the record. (He says, on a platform created by tankies)

(He says, on a platform created by tankies)

One of the reasons I switched to piefed.

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Commiunism lemmy.dbzer0.com commiunism@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-05-20
#50 · Quote Reply

Fediverse isn't all that great though despite all the cope, scroll through all and you see that it's 50% news slop about how US conservatives bad that's designed to keep you scrolling, 35% porn, 5% leftoid memes and 10% for everything else, pretty much like reddit minus the copious amount of rightoids. The culture is also pretty much the same.

Engagement and upvote hunting also does play a role, else there wouldn't be people who make posting their day job or (as of late) bots automatically scraping popular posts from reddit to post here.

Like sure it's decentralized, but what good does it do when it's almost the same in content as the bad platform it denounces?

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-10
#51 · Quote Reply

Thank goodness. But shouldnt that be elementary? I was doing that when I was like...6...and there was no internet.

You'd think. But we are admittedly engaging in some boomer ass thinking right now.

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