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Xbox wants you to pay 24 to 40 cents per hour to stream games you already bought: Time-based a la carte charges come on top of the purchase price for the games themselves.
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edgesmash lemmy.world edgesmash@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#102 · Quote Reply

Oh fack off

Good evening to you as well.

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tackleberry thelemmy.club tackleberry@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-01-30
#103 · Quote Reply

If I saw what emulation and decomp/recomps are doing I would grab at any penny I saw.

🀣

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tackleberry thelemmy.club tackleberry@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-01-30
#104 · Quote Reply

Welcome to the future, my friends, where soon enough you will not be able to own your own at-home compute because it's too expensive, and instead you'll just have to pay hourly to use someone else's compute.

Just like the good old days we had to visit an internet cafe to buy a time bundle and send an email

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adarza lemmy.ca adarza@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-05-29
#105 · Quote Reply

the most shocking thing about stadia is that they released the means to de-fuck the stadia controller so it could be used as a normal pc controller

even more shocking.. it was google

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adarza lemmy.ca adarza@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-05-29
#106 · (edited) Quote Reply

Microsoft wants to never sell another product to me again? Fine

that is correct.

they don't want to sell.

they want to rent.

this is just another step down that path.

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EatMyPixelDust lemmy.blahaj.zone EatMyPixelDust@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-07-07
#107 · Quote Reply

And it's this kind of shit that has ruined my love for tech. It's all soulless dystopian slop they want you paying for monthly for the rest of your life. Fuck all these techno dweebs. It's a shame all the normies will go along with this...

That's why you ditch consoles, get a PC and buy only from stores that don't do this rubbish.

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twilightwolf90 lemmy.world twilightwolf90@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#108 · Quote Reply

there was something the other day about microsoft having warehouses of GPUs for datacenters that arent even built yet. They could probably take 1% of those to cover it without any additional costs for them.

They aren't the same GPUs that are in Xboxs. those are nvidia GPUs eg the nv72 or gb300. There's no way to make them compatible with Xbox. Source: my unc works at Microsoft data centers.

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trolleyfuckergirl lemmy.world trolleyfuckergirl@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-10-23
#109 · Quote Reply

Awful idea, but unfortunately completely in character for Microsoft. Windows is basically spyware at this point.

I wonder which high-ranking Microsoft employee made this dumbass decision, knowing it would net them more money

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Joined: 2023-06-29
#110 · Quote Reply

If they aren't rich enough, then they are in the same boat as us. This ain't exactly new... AWS workspaces, Azure Cloud PCs, Google docs, office 365, one drive. The tech has been creeping it's way into businesses for the last 10 years. Obviously they are getting hammered right now by the raise in prices of new PCs. As the prices go up, they will have to make decisions.

My job trialled azure cloud PCs a couple of years ago.

It was pretty good from my point of view as a user.

However the cost was higher than $8000 laptops we have, so we didn't adopt it.

Wonder if it's still the same. Guessing the cloud is still suffering the same hardware price hike anyway.

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TheFogan programming.dev TheFogan@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-07-12
#111 · Quote Reply

My job trialled azure cloud PCs a couple of years ago. It was pretty good from my point of view as a user. However the cost was higher than $8000 laptops we have, so we didn't adopt it. Wonder if it's still the same. Guessing the cloud is still suffering the same hardware price hike anyway.

Running a comparison, assuming it's in use 8 hours a day 5 days a week, looks like a CPC runs around 640-760 a year (just googling quickly checking the numbers). course that's just basic hourly office computer, meant to be comparable to what normally would be normal office computer. Didn't bother to look and see what say an 8,000 high end graphics card laptop or something would compare... of course if your company was doing 8,000 laptops "a couple years ago", those are probably at least 15,000 laptops today.

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Squeak9291 lemmy.ca Squeak9291@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2026-07-03
#112 · (edited) Quote Reply

Lol for comparison geforce now is $8.33/month(for yearly plan)for 100 hours a month, plus 15 unused hours roll forward.

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LostCarcosan lemmy.today LostCarcosan@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-04-17
#113 · (edited) Quote Reply

I think you are overestimating just how many big companies use a thin client-like system. But I admit I might be underestimating it. Out of personal experience, I used to work for a pretty big global company and every employee got their own work laptop to use. And that was a company with 30.000+ employees worldwide. So maybe that is my bias in this, and I would think companies like that wouldn'...

They don't have to give up digital sovereignty. They'lll just subscribe to the Executive plan which grants them more control for cheaper than 30,000 laptops

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Womble piefed.world Womble@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-07-10
#114 · (edited) Quote Reply

I don't think it's going to be an overnight thing, It will start voluntarily, as the price equation shifts. the complications wasn't worth the savings when office PCs were 1500 a pop, but what about when they are 3000 a pop and projected to hit 5000 next year. After more of them make the switch... then say an announcement can happen that microsoft is lessening it's support for on prem servers a...

I dont understand the reasoning behind people seem to think prices for components will climb for ever and ever without generating more supply. if RAM becomes obscenely profitable for long enough others will get in on the act and produce their own to get some of those profits. The only reason people arent yet is that everyone thinks there is a bubble pop coming down the pipe (me included).

so the two options are:

  • Bubble pops-demand from hyperscalers vanishes, prices collapse

  • Bubble doesn't pop, more supply comes online due to pent up demand, prices stabilize then come down over time

Neither involve cyberpunk dystopias of cackling supervillians monopolizing PCs

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Squirrelanna lemmy.blahaj.zone Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-09
#115 · Quote Reply

They aren't the same GPUs that are in Xboxs. those are nvidia GPUs eg the nv72 or gb300. There's no way to make them compatible with Xbox. Source: my unc works at Microsoft data centers.

Why do they need to be compatible with an Xbox? They could just use the PC version for streaming

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timbuck2themoon sh.itjust.works timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-13
#116 · Quote Reply

My job trialled azure cloud PCs a couple of years ago. It was pretty good from my point of view as a user. However the cost was higher than $8000 laptops we have, so we didn't adopt it. Wonder if it's still the same. Guessing the cloud is still suffering the same hardware price hike anyway.

Yeah I get the feeling a lot of people don't understand how crazy expensive virtualized desktops are.

You really don't go to it to save money. It's for standardization and security and it costs you. Then you're at the mercy of the company anyway. Just witness VMware now.

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Hueristic_Autistic lemmy.world Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-06
#117 · Quote Reply

Awful idea, but unfortunately completely in character for Microsoft. Windows is basically spyware at this point. I wonder which high-ranking Microsoft employee made this dumbass decision, knowing it would net them more money

Windows is basically spyware at this point.

Always has been.

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Hueristic_Autistic lemmy.world Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-06
#118 · Quote Reply

Man, I feel like peak gaming was the xbox 360.

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Hueristic_Autistic lemmy.world Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-06
#119 · Quote Reply

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reka lemmy.world reka@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-06
#120 · Quote Reply

Man, I feel like peak gaming was the xbox 360.

I think steam deck 2 as and when it comes out will be a golden age. I think it stands a chance to completely consolidate the market.

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reka lemmy.world reka@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-06
#121 · Quote Reply

Lol for comparison geforce now is $8.33/month(for yearly plan)for 100 hours a month, plus 15 unused hours roll forward.

I haven't thought about geforce now for a while. It's a bit of a different prospect now it's owned by the highest valued company in America.

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Saryn lemmy.world Saryn@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-08-12
#122 · Quote Reply

The consumer will gobble this up like hot bread and then ask "but why things bad? Must be immigrants"

Shitty behaviour by a shitty species

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Hueristic_Autistic lemmy.world Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-06-06
#123 · Quote Reply

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2026/07/23/game-streaming-ad-supported-xbox-insiders/

Today, we’re starting to test an ad-supported way to stream select games from your library for a limited time, available to XBOX Insiders.

During this test period, XBOX Insiders with an XBOX account will be able to stream games they own for free with ads. Players will have one hour session limits across supported devices and regions.

Here’s what you can expect:

  1. Ads will play before sessions begin.

  2. The core game experience is unchanged.

  3. This is optional. Players can choose other ways to play at any time.

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iegod lemmy.zip ieGod@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#124 · Quote Reply

And it's this kind of shit that has ruined my love for tech. It's all soulless dystopian slop they want you paying for monthly for the rest of your life. Fuck all these techno dweebs. It's a shame all the normies will go along with this...

Tech is still great but you have to know where to look and invest. Sony/MS have lost the plot that's for sure, but the pc gaming ecosystem is vibrant, and there are amazing foss solutions to just about everything, including streaming.

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twilightwolf90 lemmy.world twilightwolf90@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#125 · (edited) Quote Reply

Why do they need to be compatible with an Xbox? They could just use the PC version for streaming

Xbox and PC versions aren't exactly 1:1. Plus, those are extremely expensive GPUs to not be selling for top dollar to the AI bros instead.

Edit- I'm leaving out things like architecture, shaders, tensor cores, NVIDIA vs AMD, SXM vs PCI-E, etc.

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khaleer sopuli.xyz khaleer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-06-20
#126 · Quote Reply

Back in my day it was called an arcade video game.

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khaleer sopuli.xyz khaleer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2024-06-20
#127 · Quote Reply

I wonder if XBox realizes that their player base isn't locked into their ecosystem... And they are certainly far from the only option.

sad to said that, but most players, are locked into their ecosystem. Most people know shit about piracy, linux, or even tinkering with their computer. It's sad, yes.

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pathief lemmy.world pathief@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
#128 · Quote Reply

I think steam deck 2 as and when it comes out will be a golden age. I think it stands a chance to completely consolidate the market.

Depends on the price, most people don't want a 1k euros console.

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imetators lemmy.dbzer0.com imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-10
#129 · Quote Reply

They can have my longest finger while I game on Cachy

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Regrettable_incident lemmy.world Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-02-14
#130 · Quote Reply

Back in my day it was called an arcade video game.

Yeah, back in my day the games came on a cassette tape. Sometimes the tapes got tangled up or broke, but when you bought it, you owned it.

Oh, and you'd get those magazines with pages of code for a game - you'd spend a day typing it in and never be able to figure out the tiny error you'd made.

Actually, games are so much better these days. It's just unfortunate that capitalism.

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Resonosity lemmy.dbzer0.com Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-07-21
#131 · Quote Reply

Once again, I pray for the time when China floods the market with GPUs, RAM, and storage to the point where all these technocapitalists get fucked.

Fuck renting shit.

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tigeruppercut lemmy.zip tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-08-20
#132 · Quote Reply

Man, I feel like peak gaming was the xbox 360.

I'd argue early PC and 3rd-4th gen (NES to SNES era)

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Bipauler sh.itjust.works Bipauler@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-06-04
#133 · Quote Reply

Yeah.... no. There's no way in Hell. I will play Archon on my Commodore 64, fuck this noise.

Fire game

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A_Random_Idiot lemmy.world A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#134 · Quote Reply

even more shocking.. it was google

yeah, i should have been more specific, but thats why its so shocking.

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A_Random_Idiot lemmy.world A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#135 · Quote Reply

Xbox and PC versions aren't exactly 1:1. Plus, those are extremely expensive GPUs to not be selling for top dollar to the AI bros instead. Edit- I'm leaving out things like architecture, shaders, tensor cores, NVIDIA vs AMD, SXM vs PCI-E, etc.

those GPUs were sold for top dollar to AI bros.

its why microsoft has so many of them, sitting in a warehouse, waiting to be used, for stupid AI bullshit.

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mechoman444 lemmy.world mechoman444@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#136 · Quote Reply

sad to said that, but most players, are locked into their ecosystem. Most people know shit about piracy, linux, or even tinkering with their computer. It's sad, yes.

I would say that's true about Sony and its ecosystem.

Xbox, on the other hand, isn't doing so hot. I'd argue that Microsoft could potentially be heading toward a serious decline in the console market. When a consumer base is pushed hard enough, eventually people start pushing back.

That's why we're seeing PlayStation and Nintendo Switch consoles being jailbroken. It may be a sign that some consumers are tired of being restricted and exploited by the platforms they use.

Xbox has a particularly serious problem: if Microsoft fails to deliver games and experiences that make its ecosystem worthwhile, people will simply move to PlayStation or Nintendo to play video games. They aren't necessarily going to care about Xbox as an entertainment ecosystem if the gaming experience itself isn't compelling.

Microsoft needs to remember that people buy gaming consoles to play games, not to buy into an ecosystem.

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reksas sopuli.xyz reksas@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-11
#137 · (edited) Quote Reply

Only 50 center per hour, you say? I mean it's only 75 cents, that won't even buy a soda anymore. Who wouldn't pay a dollar an hour to play the games they love?

the idea is to first make people accept the idea, then over time they will increase the price slowly so people dont react too fast.

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ElChinchilla lemmy.world ElChinchilla@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-08-14
#138 · Quote Reply

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2026/07/23/game-streaming-ad-supported-xbox-insiders/ Today, we’re starting to test an ad-supported way to stream select games from your library for a limited time, available to XBOX Insiders. During this test period, XBOX Insiders with an XBOX account will be able to stream games they own for free with ads. Players will have one hour session limits across supported ...

I bought the Xbox x for starfield. Mistakes were made.

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edible_funk sh.itjust.works edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-06
#139 · Quote Reply

Isn't this just free on both pc and playstation?

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edible_funk sh.itjust.works edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-06
#140 · Quote Reply

Microsoft wants to charge for providing a service? That seems completely fair. Streaming a game isn't free for them.

They want to charge you for something that's free on other platforms.

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edible_funk sh.itjust.works edible_funk@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-06
#141 · Quote Reply

I dont think anyone should pay a dime for this, but i also dont see what is so horrendously wrong about it, IF it was only applied to new purchases. Nothing retroactive. Streaming takes up compute. Maybe if they charged more for the games, but they should actually charge less. But that wont happen either. Regular price for a streamed game with fee is a terrible thing.

I hate this new trend of corpo speak using compute as a noun. Ew.

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twilightwolf90 lemmy.world twilightwolf90@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#142 · Quote Reply

those GPUs were sold for top dollar to AI bros. its why microsoft has so many of them, sitting in a warehouse, waiting to be used, for stupid AI bullshit.

They are sitting in the warehouse because there aren't enough other parts (e.g. DIMMs), power, or data centers for them. And as stupid as AI bullshit is, they are paying more than gamers by orders of magnitude.

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FlyingCircus lemmy.world FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-08
#143 · Quote Reply

Once again, I pray for the time when China floods the market with GPUs, RAM, and storage to the point where all these technocapitalists get fucked. Fuck renting shit.

If they did that, the technocapitalists would just make Chinese hardware illegal.

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JigglySackles lemmy.world JigglySackles@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#144 · Quote Reply

And we've come full circle back to arcades. Just with extra(fewer?) steps now.

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Muffi programming.dev Muffi@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-07-25
#145 · Quote Reply

If they did that, the technocapitalists would just make Chinese hardware illegal.

Exactly. And they will use the excuse that the chinese hardware might spy on us, all while the hardware they allow us to buy is doing that openly.

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Landless2029 lemmy.world Landless2029@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-23
#146 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

I see this as a feature most people wouldn't actually use.

Only use case I'd have for it is wanting a game to render at higher specs while travelling at like a hotel.

I bought a steam deck for a vacation when it came out. Used it on the flight and that's it. Never played games except at the airport so I was fine rendering at the steam deck.

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Squirrelanna lemmy.blahaj.zone Squirrelanna@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-09
#147 · Quote Reply

Xbox and PC versions aren't exactly 1:1. Plus, those are extremely expensive GPUs to not be selling for top dollar to the AI bros instead. Edit- I'm leaving out things like architecture, shaders, tensor cores, NVIDIA vs AMD, SXM vs PCI-E, etc.

Not 1:1 sure, but I'm struggling to think of a meaningful difference that would make the PC version an inferior one besides incompetent porting.

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A_Random_Idiot lemmy.world A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#148 · Quote Reply

They are sitting in the warehouse because there aren't enough other parts (e.g. DIMMs), power, or data centers for them. And as stupid as AI bullshit is, they are paying more than gamers by orders of magnitude.

Yes, thank you for circling back to the original point.

God what a mountain road that was.

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arararagi ani.social arararagi@ani.social
Joined: 2024-02-22
#149 · Quote Reply

They did it, they made something worse than google Stadia!

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Resonosity lemmy.dbzer0.com Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-07-21
#150 · Quote Reply

If they did that, the technocapitalists would just make Chinese hardware illegal.

If Americans cannot get their treats and the bread and Circus stops, then they will resort to other means of expressing dissent.

The USA is highly individualistic and materialistic. If they can't get their treats, then stochastic crime will take place (not that I'm against that, fuck capital).

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RaphaelSchmitz feddit.org RaphaelSchmitz@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-04-28
#151 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

For 2-3 hours per day is what you mean I guess?

Because 400 is pretty close to the amount of days in a year, meaning you would have a bit more than a buck per day.

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