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To anyone who believe Putin's right hand is controlling Trump's mouth:I know where Putin's left hand is — allow me to introduce German AfD party leader Alice Weidel.The full interview with this Kremlin proxy is mind-blowingly scary — especially from 18:00 where she starts unfolding her Kremlin script about Ukraine.If you want to know what happens if she and Marine Le Pen in France get the power, watch the full video here:youtu.be/_cGGDu8sgXY

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majster lemmy.zip majster@lemmy.zip
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I don't think Putin is controlling them. They just want to grab opportunity of the dismantling system for their delusions of grandeur. Which is worse. That means that getting rid of Putin will change little because other shitheads will continue.

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Ravi feddit.org Ravi@feddit.org
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I don't think Putin is controlling them. They just want to grab opportunity of the dismantling system for their delusions of grandeur. Which is worse. That means that getting rid of Putin will change little because other shitheads will continue.

It may change their funding though.

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tirateimas lemmy.pt tirateimas@lemmy.pt
Joined: 2026-01-01
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Russia in 4 years wasn't able to achieve anything and they are now stuck. They failed on all measures. They tried mercenaries, arsenal from other countries, boots on the ground from other countries, and all sorts of campaigns to make Ukraine and their support to fall. All failed.

I would say Russia is not half as strong as it tries to present itself.

Just tangerine mussolini and this kind of dump politicians fall for it.

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susieq0044 sh.itjust.works susieq0044@sh.itjust.works
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#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

The afd is a right-wing, extremist party, with ideas that are a direct threat to democracy. Among all the rightwing parties in Europe, this one is the most dangerous, as it is, at its core, deeply fascist. It’s pulling in uninformed voters, and may well be the biggest party in Germany soon; political chaos will ensue, and ordinary people will suffer the most.

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NaibofTabr infosec.pub NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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I don't think Putin is controlling them. They just want to grab opportunity of the dismantling system for their delusions of grandeur. Which is worse. That means that getting rid of Putin will change little because other shitheads will continue.

That doesn't explain why they parrot Putin's speeches.

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excral feddit.org excral@feddit.org
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#7 · Quote Reply

She's defending Russia's imperialism in broad daylight. She's saying Ukraine is to small to defend themselves from Russia. If that argument was valid, who else wouldn't be allowed to defend themselves from Russia? Belarus, Georgia, Estonia. Is Russia entitled to invade and conquer all of them simply because they are significantly larger? Ukraine didn't start an unwinnable war. They are defending themselves and fighting for their very lives

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majster lemmy.zip majster@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-26
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That doesn't explain why they parrot Putin's speeches.

It does. They want a might makes right system for them to operate from. Its why Trump followed Putin in its logic. Trump got Venezuela and Iran that way. If we are lucky we will never know what AfD wants to get out of this.

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-14
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She isn't very eloquent. She can't explain this in other terms than "Ukraine is too small", but TOGETHER we are not too small, that's the whole point. She's a fucking nonce.

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harc szmer.info harcesz@szmer.info
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I don't think Putin is controlling them. They just want to grab opportunity of the dismantling system for their delusions of grandeur. Which is worse. That means that getting rid of Putin will change little because other shitheads will continue.

They are directly funded by Russia as is most of European far right and odd tankie party.

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Rothe piefed.social Rothe@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-08-25
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I don't think Putin is controlling them. They just want to grab opportunity of the dismantling system for their delusions of grandeur. Which is worse. That means that getting rid of Putin will change little because other shitheads will continue.

He is not controlling all that they do, but he is funding them and and telling them what to think about certain issues. This take on Ukraine being a common talking point among all right wing parties across Europe (and the world) is not a coincidence.

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Rothe piefed.social Rothe@piefed.social
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It does. They want a might makes right system for them to operate from. Its why Trump followed Putin in its logic. Trump got Venezuela and Iran that way. If we are lucky we will never know what AfD wants to get out of this.

It is very naive to think there is no collusion going on though. We already have plenty of proof that Putin funds Afd and similar right wing parties in Europe.

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im_fine_sandy nord.pub im_fine_sandy@nord.pub
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LOL.

Every kid learns that you have to stand up to bullies.

If Ukraine just chucks in the towel, then Putin will just move on to the next campaign.

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bufalo1973 piefed.social bufalo1973@piefed.social
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The afd is a right-wing, extremist party, with ideas that are a direct threat to democracy. Among all the rightwing parties in Europe, this one is the most dangerous, as it is, at its core, deeply fascist. It’s pulling in uninformed voters, and may well be the biggest party in Germany soon; political chaos will ensue, and ordinary people will suffer the most.

AfD is the new name of the NSDAP.

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steel_for_humans piefed.social steel_for_humans@piefed.social
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She's defending Russia's imperialism in broad daylight. She's saying Ukraine is to small to defend themselves from Russia. If that argument was valid, who else wouldn't be allowed to defend themselves from Russia? Belarus, Georgia, Estonia. Is Russia entitled to invade and conquer all of them simply because they are significantly larger? Ukraine didn't start an unwinnable war. They are defendin...

A good solution to that problem is making Russia small again. It should be split into sovereign nations giving back the land and cultures that they took forcibly.

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tal lemmy.today tal@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-04
#16 · (edited) Quote Reply

If you want to know what happens if she and Marine Le Pen in France get the power,

So:

  • In the US, Trump's last year is 2028. Mind, Vance has generally been considered to be the most-likely Republican nominee and is isolationist, but I don't know how well he'd do, given Trump's now-very-high unpopularity and his association with the Trump administration. Rubio, who I've seen listed as being the second-most-likely Republican nominee, is a lot more conventional, and I'd assume that any Democratic president would likely also be. 2028 elections are still a long way out, so hard to make many calls yet.

  • In the UK, while Reform topped polling for a while, Labour has finally managed to pull a little ahead, and the Conservatives look to me likely to do so as well. So my guess is that the likelihood of Prime Minister Farage is on the downswing.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election

  • In France, RN (run by Le Pen) presently holds a large polling lead. LFI (run by Mélenchon) just crept ahead of ENS (run by Macron). Elections are only about six months out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_2027_French_presidential_election

  • In Germany, AfD is polling on top. The next federal election may not happen until as late as 2029, however, so it could be quite some time away.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_German_federal_election

    My understanding is that the German political system can theoretically hold a party with a plurality but not majority of votes out of executive power if everyone else chooses to do so; this is known as the cordon sanitaire. In the past, this had by convention applied to far-right parties. However, I don't know whether this will continue to hold.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cordon_sanitaire_(politics)

    A strict political non-cooperation is only exercised against right-wing parties, such as the Republicans, and even the Republicans have exercised a cordon against the neo-Nazi The Homeland. Since 2013, the established major parties have refused to form state-level coalitions with the new right-wing populist party Alternative for Germany (AfD). Brandmauer (firewall) is the term most often used in Germany to refer to this non-cooperation policy against the AfD.[24]

    In February 2025, the Christian Democratic Union of Germany put forward a non-binding motion, taking AfD votes into account, in the Bundestag to push through a on the detention of undocumented foreigners at borders. This was the first time since 1945 that the cordon sanitaire had been broken in Germany. This event provoked large-scale demonstrations across Germany, with between 160,000 and 250,000 people in Berlin on February 2, and over 220,000 demonstrators in several of the country's major cities the day before.[25][26]

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rynn piefed.social chahn.chris@piefed.social
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Russia is a pretty weak country but their influence and propaganda game is S tier.

They are going for the mind fuck win and it’s working.

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NoFearFrontier feddit.org NoFearFrontier@feddit.org
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#18 · Quote Reply

Since she is a lesbian married to a POC and living in Switzerland being a leader of nazis afd party, the leopard eating face phase is not too far away.

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AngryCommieKender lemmy.world AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world
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She's defending Russia's imperialism in broad daylight. She's saying Ukraine is to small to defend themselves from Russia. If that argument was valid, who else wouldn't be allowed to defend themselves from Russia? Belarus, Georgia, Estonia. Is Russia entitled to invade and conquer all of them simply because they are significantly larger? Ukraine didn't start an unwinnable war. They are defendin...

Germany as well. Russia is way bigger than Germany, France, the USA, China.... I guess we are all Russians now.

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bunkyprewster startrek.website bunkyprewster@startrek.website
Joined: 2023-06-12
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Vietnam is too small, can never win against America

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idiomaddict lemmy.world idiomaddict@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-16
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A good solution to that problem is making Russia small again. It should be split into sovereign nations giving back the land and cultures that they took forcibly.

That would even mean there’s another officially Jewish state, which would be helpful in distinguishing between antizionism and antisemitism (assuming [read: really, really hoping] that it doesn’t ally itself with Israel regarding Palestine)

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boomzilla programming.dev boomzilla@programming.dev
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She isn't very eloquent. She can't explain this in other terms than "Ukraine is too small", but TOGETHER we are not too small, that's the whole point. She's a fucking nonce.

In addition she lies like her true masters Lawrow, Peskow and Putler, all the time. I did a fact check on an interview Bloomberg did with her a year ago or so. About every sentence contained wrong data, false information and lies. Completely unchecked by the interviewer. Posted a lengthy comment which amassed some 3000 likes over night and was demanded by commenters to be pinned. Instead it was deleted. I now know what to think of Bloomberg.

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Phoenixz lemmy.ca phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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Since she is a lesbian married to a POC and living in Switzerland being a leader of nazis afd party, the leopard eating face phase is not too far away.

I always wonder about those spouses...

You are married to a Nazi. You are brown, so to speak. Do you not understand? What exactly atebyou expecting will happen over time? Like, what is your endgame here?

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Victor lemmy.world victorz@lemmy.world
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In addition she lies like her true masters Lawrow, Peskow and Putler, all the time. I did a fact check on an interview Bloomberg did with her a year ago or so. About every sentence contained wrong data, false information and lies. Completely unchecked by the interviewer. Posted a lengthy comment which amassed some 3000 likes over night and was demanded by commenters to be pinned. Instead it was...

I can imagine all of this to be true. She sounds dumb af.

From which platform was this comment you made deleted btw?

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AItoothbrush lemmy.zip AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip
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#25 · (edited) Quote Reply

Finland is a small country, it could never win against russia. Also does german call ukraine "the ukraine" or did she also read that straight from the script? Cause if im correct calling ukraine "the ukraine" is a common thing amongst people who dont believe ukraine is independant from russia.

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Jimbel lemmy.world Jimbel@lemmy.world
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Vietnam is too small, can never win against America

Underrated comment

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TacoButtPlug sh.itjust.works TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works
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#27 · Quote Reply

She has a hateful face

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ZC3rr0r piefed.ca ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca
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AfD is the new name of the NSDAP.

Well, I mean National Socialism was the "Alternative for Germany" of its day, so the parallel really must not have gone unnoticed by the AfD either.

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You feddit.org You@feddit.org
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Finland is a small country, it could never win against russia. Also does german call ukraine "the ukraine" or did she also read that straight from the script? Cause if im correct calling ukraine "the ukraine" is a common thing amongst people who dont believe ukraine is independant from russia.

Might be a dog whistle, might be a simple mistake stemming from her being German. Your guess is correct, in German the country's name has an article and is called "die Ukraine" (no, not meant as a Bart Simpson reference).

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zaphod sopuli.xyz zaphod@sopuli.xyz
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#30 · Quote Reply

Since she is a lesbian married to a POC and living in Switzerland being a leader of nazis afd party, the leopard eating face phase is not too far away.

She'd deport her own wife if it would give her an advantage.

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Avid Amoeba lemmy.ca avidamoeba@lemmy.ca
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#31 · Quote Reply

My god The Economist interviewer is as useless as ever.. She didn't seriously press her on any of the bread-and-butter issues because she's in agreement with economic austerity, she just disagees on some of the details. This interview made Alice look pretty decent.

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Tryenjer lemmy.world Tryenjer@lemmy.world
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#32 · (edited) Quote Reply

One thing seems to be certain, the 30s will be excitingly crazy again.

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You feddit.org You@feddit.org
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#33 · Quote Reply

Well, I mean National Socialism was the "Alternative for Germany" of its day, so the parallel really must not have gone unnoticed by the AfD either.

No no no! You got that wrong. The NSDAP at its core was a leftist party!

(According to Alice Weidel)

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ZC3rr0r piefed.ca ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca
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#34 · Quote Reply

No no no! You got that wrong. The NSDAP at its core was a leftist party! (According to Alice Weidel)

You had me in the first half, not gonna lie. ;-)

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Avicenna programming.dev Avicenna@programming.dev
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#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

Putin the comrade sure has very good ties to alot of extreme right wing groups all over the world. He might be by far the biggest supporter of world-wide fascism.

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Melchior feddit.org Melchior@feddit.org
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#36 · Quote Reply

If you want to know what happens if she and Marine Le Pen in France get the power, So: In the US, Trump's last year is 2028. Mind, Vance has generally been considered to be the most-likely Republican nominee and is isolationist, but I don't know how well he'd do, given Trump's now-very-high unpopularity and his association with the Trump administration. Rubio, who I've seen listed as being the ...
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saimen feddit.org saimen@feddit.org
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#37 · Quote Reply

One thing seems to be certain, the 30s will be excitingly crazy again.

And instead of the roaring twenties we got Covid

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motionofethre piefed.social motionofethre@piefed.social
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#38 · Quote Reply

That would even mean there’s another officially Jewish state, which would be helpful in distinguishing between antizionism and antisemitism (assuming [read: really, really hoping] that it doesn’t ally itself with Israel regarding Palestine)

For others who also didn't know, its this one I think

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

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simulacra_procession lemmy.today simulacra_procession@lemmy.today
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#39 · Quote Reply

She's defending Russia's imperialism in broad daylight. She's saying Ukraine is to small to defend themselves from Russia. If that argument was valid, who else wouldn't be allowed to defend themselves from Russia? Belarus, Georgia, Estonia. Is Russia entitled to invade and conquer all of them simply because they are significantly larger? Ukraine didn't start an unwinnable war. They are defendin...

Ahh the Melian dialogue. Imagine if Sparta or the any of the neutral Greek states had actually come to their aid. We have that opportunity now.

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idiomaddict lemmy.world idiomaddict@lemmy.world
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#40 · Quote Reply

For others who also didn't know, its this one I think https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast

exactly. It’s currently only officially Jewish, in that the populations of ethnic and religious Jews are both tiny, but I could see future migration from people who are morally opposed to what the Israeli government is doing, but are afraid to move to a non Jewish state (I imagine they’re hearing a lot of propaganda right now about how unsafe everywhere else in the world is for Jews).

That’s not what I mean though- in all sorts of situations, people accuse those opposed to the state of Israel of antisemitism, because they’re opposed to the only Jewish state. Because there is only one though, it means either Israel’s actions determine objective morality or that argument is nonsense (hint, hint), but the existence of another Jewish state with different politics would still be helpful in shutting it down.

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∃∀λ programming.dev eah@programming.dev
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#41 · Quote Reply

One thing seems to be certain, the 30s will be excitingly crazy again.

Woodie Guthrie - Lindbergh

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HaiZhung feddit.org HaiZhung@feddit.org
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#42 · Quote Reply

I always wonder about those spouses... You are married to a Nazi. You are brown, so to speak. Do you not understand? What exactly atebyou expecting will happen over time? Like, what is your endgame here?

There were several documented relationships of high ranking nazis with Jews in the third reich; and those Jews were left alone.

That’s the whole point of their ideology. They are absolutely fine carving out exceptions for themselves whenever it benefits them directly.

You can’t get nazis with logical gotchas or uncovering their inconsistencies. They don’t care about those inconsistencies. They care about getting power and using it for their advantages, and they will say and do anything to get it.
For all we know, Alice Weidel’s wife is 100% in on it and probably just doesn’t like publicity.

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rhubarb lemmy.world rhubarb@lemmy.world
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#43 · (edited) Quote Reply

They always tell on themselves when they refer to it as “The Ukraine” Maybe when speaking to the AFD we should refer to Germany as “The Germany” show them the same disrespect

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KC_Royalz lemmy.world KC_Royalz@lemmy.world
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#44 · Quote Reply

And instead of the roaring twenties we got Covid

Not true. We also got roaring inflation

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#45 · Quote Reply

That doesn't explain why they parrot Putin's speeches.

and uses his talking points,

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

Russia in 4 years wasn't able to achieve anything and they are now stuck. They failed on all measures. They tried mercenaries, arsenal from other countries, boots on the ground from other countries, and all sorts of campaigns to make Ukraine and their support to fall. All failed. I would say Russia is not half as strong as it tries to present itself. Just tangerine mussolini and this kind of du...

and now they are completely dependant ochina for all thier supplies, China couldnt have gotten a better gift.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
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#47 · Quote Reply

No no no! You got that wrong. The NSDAP at its core was a leftist party! (According to Alice Weidel)

alice weidel also a lesbian living in another country too.

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toastadar lemmy.zip toastadar@lemmy.zip
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#48 · (edited) Quote Reply

One thing seems to be certain, the 30s will be excitingly crazy again.

The 2020s cycle should be broken by then unfortunately we were also in the centennial rift. To prevent any further roaring 20s in the timeline we should avoid that set of years for the foreseeable future.

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sexy_peach feddit.org sexy_peach@feddit.org
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#49 · Quote Reply

Finland is a small country, it could never win against russia. Also does german call ukraine "the ukraine" or did she also read that straight from the script? Cause if im correct calling ukraine "the ukraine" is a common thing amongst people who dont believe ukraine is independant from russia.

I used to say die Ukraine as well. But just Ukraine also works in German so me and many people adopted that. This one not so much, who would have guessed

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lemmydividebyzero reddthat.com lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com
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#50 · Quote Reply

Russia cannot win either.

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sexy_peach feddit.org sexy_peach@feddit.org
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#51 · Quote Reply

Russia is a pretty weak country but their influence and propaganda game is S tier. They are going for the mind fuck win and it’s working.

People are doing it to themselves in part.

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