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Metallica's cowardly silence on Palestine shows that “And Justice For All” was a hoax
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Forsho sh.itjust.works Forsho@sh.itjust.works
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As Antonio Gramsci argued, ruling groups maintain power partly by making their ideas seem like common sense. This helps explain the political significance of Metallica’s call for disengagement at a time when Israel’s genocide in Palestine demands urgent international attention. Hetfield’s vague agenda of “love, energy and heavy music” ultimately amounts to a refusal to stand for anything meaningful. And that refusal is itself deeply political.

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Jerb322 lemmy.world Jerb322@lemmy.world
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This is so disappointing...is it ok to still listen to their old stuff and just pretend that they broke up after Master of Puppets?

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Forsho sh.itjust.works Forsho@sh.itjust.works
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This is so disappointing...is it ok to still listen to their old stuff and just pretend that they broke up after Master of Puppets?

You can, but you should know deep down that most of their lyrics are just “bandwagon rides” and pretentious.

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yesman lemmy.world yesman@lemmy.world
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Seems kinda weird to pick on Metallica. None of their music strikes me as anti-colonial or revolutionary. I suspect that if the band wanted to air their politics, they'd do it on FOX news anyway. Their fans are all genX white men; they'd be fools to "come out" as liberal, much less revolutionary.

And who cares about Metallica? They only have one good album and it was released in 1984.

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danc4498 lemmy.world danc4498@lemmy.world
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Seems kinda weird to pick on Metallica. None of their music strikes me as anti-colonial or revolutionary. I suspect that if the band wanted to air their politics, they'd do it on FOX news anyway. Their fans are all genX white men; they'd be fools to "come out" as liberal, much less revolutionary. And who cares about Metallica? They only have one good album and it was released in 1984.

Also, they come across as tools. They’re the last band I’d want to hear politics from.

Though I will disagree, their music is fantastic. Even short hair Metallica has great songs.

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pdxfed lemmy.world pdxfed@lemmy.world
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Seems kinda weird to pick on Metallica. None of their music strikes me as anti-colonial or revolutionary. I suspect that if the band wanted to air their politics, they'd do it on FOX news anyway. Their fans are all genX white men; they'd be fools to "come out" as liberal, much less revolutionary. And who cares about Metallica? They only have one good album and it was released in 1984.

Gotta take the heat off of Sheeran.

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chemical_cutthroat lemmy.world chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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Seems kinda weird to pick on Metallica. None of their music strikes me as anti-colonial or revolutionary. I suspect that if the band wanted to air their politics, they'd do it on FOX news anyway. Their fans are all genX white men; they'd be fools to "come out" as liberal, much less revolutionary. And who cares about Metallica? They only have one good album and it was released in 1984.

At most they were an anti-cold war, anti-nuke band, not so much with modern politics.

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A_Union_of_Kobolds lemmy.world A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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Also, they come across as tools. They’re the last band I’d want to hear politics from. Though I will disagree, their music is fantastic. Even short hair Metallica has great songs.

Everything post-Mustaine has been extremely mid at best

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danc4498 lemmy.world danc4498@lemmy.world
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Everything post-Mustaine has been extremely mid at best

I’d argue that’s a loud but unpopular opinion

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Forsho sh.itjust.works Forsho@sh.itjust.works
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Seems kinda weird to pick on Metallica. None of their music strikes me as anti-colonial or revolutionary. I suspect that if the band wanted to air their politics, they'd do it on FOX news anyway. Their fans are all genX white men; they'd be fools to "come out" as liberal, much less revolutionary. And who cares about Metallica? They only have one good album and it was released in 1984.

You don't need to have “anti colonial” tag to speak about Palestinian children being slaughtered live on front of your eyes.

Also i disagree that all their fans are white men (whatever the fuck that means), i think Metallica is or maybe was a big global band that have enormous fanbase all over the world (literally).

The message the article tries to deliver is basically calling out fuckface Hetfield, as he is going political (in a negative way) with his recent pesudo-love and anti-politics rhetoric.

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dkppunk piefed.social dkppunk@piefed.social
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This is so disappointing...is it ok to still listen to their old stuff and just pretend that they broke up after Master of Puppets?

Personally, this situation would fall into issues I have with other bands/authors/popular figures and how I handle their material. If I own copies of their media, whether on CD or downloaded files or physical books, I will continue to listen to or read it if I do enjoy it. I will no longer purchase anything new, stream on any platform, or borrow anything from the library as a way to show my non-support.

An example: I loved Coraline by Gaiman. That guy is a gross creep, but I already own a copy of the book and the Blu-ray, so I keep my copies and do not purchase anything I do not already own.

Edit: fixed some grammar because I’m a dork

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Jo Miran lemmy.ml JoMiran@lemmy.ml
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Metallica lost me with the Napster shit. No moves on their part since then have corrected that course.

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cobysev lemmy.world cobysev@lemmy.world
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Seems kinda weird to pick on Metallica. None of their music strikes me as anti-colonial or revolutionary. I suspect that if the band wanted to air their politics, they'd do it on FOX news anyway. Their fans are all genX white men; they'd be fools to "come out" as liberal, much less revolutionary. And who cares about Metallica? They only have one good album and it was released in 1984.

Metallica infamously got Napster (the original music download site) shut down, which empowered the RIAA (and later the MPAA) to go on an anti-piracy crusade, which locked down access to a lot of media.

Granted, the RIAA has been fighting that fight for decades, but it was the legal justification they needed (and public support from one particular band) to start targeting individual people to make examples of. I remember they sued some grandma who didn't know how computers work because her teen grandchild downloaded an MP3 to her computer. They put her in debt for the rest of her life. They went after children too.

And this was around the time that torrenting started, which was a convenient way to download data on the Internet without over-taxing a singular computer. But because media pirates were using the new format to share music and movies, the RIAA and MPAA targeted torrenting itself as a tool of piracy, which limited its use professionally. To this day, thanks to them, torrenting is pretty much exclusively viewed as a way to pirate illegal content.

Fuck Metallica.

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harrys_balzac lemmy.dbzer0.com harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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They have always been posers. Less metal than a BYU Glee Club.

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A_Union_of_Kobolds lemmy.world A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world
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I’d argue that’s a loud but unpopular opinion

I stand by it idgaf

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fyzzlefry retrolemmy.com fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com
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I stand by it idgaf

It'd be weird if you backed down from an internet fight in 30 minutes

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xtr0n sh.itjust.works xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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This is so disappointing...is it ok to still listen to their old stuff and just pretend that they broke up after Master of Puppets?

🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🏴‍☠️🦜

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danc4498 lemmy.world danc4498@lemmy.world
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It'd be weird if you backed down from an internet fight in 30 minutes

It’s how I expect all my internet fights to go.

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cheeseburger lemmy.ca cheeseburger@lemmy.ca
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Seems kinda weird to pick on Metallica. None of their music strikes me as anti-colonial or revolutionary. I suspect that if the band wanted to air their politics, they'd do it on FOX news anyway. Their fans are all genX white men; they'd be fools to "come out" as liberal, much less revolutionary. And who cares about Metallica? They only have one good album and it was released in 1984.

It is self-inflicted because Hetfield chose to be a massive hypocrite on stage by giving a little speech about not being political while shitting on Macklemore for being political.

If he had taken the apolitical option to keep his mouth shut and just play the music, then I'd agree it's weird to randomly single out Metallica. They've always been bootlicking hypocrites, it's nothing new.

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xtr0n sh.itjust.works xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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#20 · Quote Reply

Everything post-Mustaine has been extremely mid at best

📠

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Madzielle lemmy.dbzer0.com Madzielle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Posers

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xtr0n sh.itjust.works xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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Metallica lost me with the Napster shit. No moves on their part since then have corrected that course.

They have always been awful people (even if I do enjoy their earliest albums)

Their documentary is a painful two hours of the whiniest, most insufferable, overprivileged, man babies. If you ever think the Napster bullshit was a temporary blip, there’s ample evidence that the rot goes all the way through:

https://youtu.be/eTeat_IN0SU?is=lPkgJq-_WWxE-gtH

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Malica lemmy.zip Malica@lemmy.zip
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Metallica died with Cliff Burton

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cheeseburger lemmy.ca cheeseburger@lemmy.ca
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This is so disappointing...is it ok to still listen to their old stuff and just pretend that they broke up after Master of Puppets?

Let it happen naturally: all you have to do is pay more attention to the things Hetfield and Ulrich say and do, then their music will become nauseating. Or don't and continue to enjoy them, who cares.

Lucky for me I was a Megadeth fan and ignored Metallica over the Mustaine drama when I was a teenager, so when they went mask-off over Napster I locked in my opinion that they suck.

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froufox lemmy.blahaj.zone froufox@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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Olivia Rodrigo is more metal than Metallica

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thisbenzingring lemmy.today thisbenzingring@lemmy.today
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Personally, this situation would fall into issues I have with other bands/authors/popular figures and how I handle their material. If I own copies of their media, whether on CD or downloaded files or physical books, I will continue to listen to or read it if I do enjoy it. I will no longer purchase anything new, stream on any platform, or borrow anything from the library as a way to show my non...

Gaiman didn't do any of the real work on teh film, so feel free to enjoy it

The Sandman is what hurts me, but again, he just wrote the words and made the story. There were lots of other people involved and they arn't creepy assholes

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thisbenzingring lemmy.today thisbenzingring@lemmy.today
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Let it happen naturally: all you have to do is pay more attention to the things Hetfield and Ulrich say and do, then their music will become nauseating. Or don't and continue to enjoy them, who cares. Lucky for me I was a Megadeth fan and ignored Metallica over the Mustaine drama when I was a teenager, so when they went mask-off over Napster I locked in my opinion that they suck.

Mustaine is a rightwing douchebag, so its all shit

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cheeseburger lemmy.ca cheeseburger@lemmy.ca
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Mustaine is a rightwing douchebag, so its all shit

Yeah I stopped paying attention to him and Megadeth when he went all super-christian.

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BassTurd lemmy.world BassTurd@lemmy.world
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Had James just not brought it up, it wouldn't be a problem. I don't think that bands are required to bring up politics and defend a side. Sheeran had his hand forced and at that point had to pick a side, and he fucked up. The only reason Metallica is getting scrutinized is because Jamie boy had to make some dumbass comments about not getting political while taking a shot at Macklemore. I was at a concert last weekend, and no bands said anything to draw themselves into a political discussion, and they're not in the headlines now. It's simple.

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Mr_Dr_Oink lemmy.world Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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#30 · Quote Reply

And justice for some

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a_non_monotonic_function lemmy.world a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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They have always been awful people (even if I do enjoy their earliest albums) Their documentary is a painful two hours of the whiniest, most insufferable, overprivileged, man babies. If you ever think the Napster bullshit was a temporary blip, there’s ample evidence that the rot goes all the way through: https://youtu.be/eTeat_IN0SU?is=lPkgJq-_WWxE-gtH

They don't even know how to treat their own members with dignity and respect.

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a_non_monotonic_function lemmy.world a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world
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#32 · Quote Reply

And justice for some

Specifically, the rich white folks.

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ikidd lemmy.dbzer0.com ikidd@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Did anyone expect Metallica to be principled? They're copyright trolls for decades, something tells me moral backbone isn't their strong suit.

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Neon_Lotus lemmy.ca Neon_Lotus@lemmy.ca
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Who's getting their political takes from celebs or artists? Stop.

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dkppunk piefed.social dkppunk@piefed.social
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Gaiman didn't do any of the real work on teh film, so feel free to enjoy it The Sandman is what hurts me, but again, he just wrote the words and made the story. There were lots of other people involved and they arn't creepy assholes

Yeah, but at least for streaming it, I worry about any royalties that may go to him, so I just avoid that risk since I have it on disc. I feel your pain 💚

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Personally, this situation would fall into issues I have with other bands/authors/popular figures and how I handle their material. If I own copies of their media, whether on CD or downloaded files or physical books, I will continue to listen to or read it if I do enjoy it. I will no longer purchase anything new, stream on any platform, or borrow anything from the library as a way to show my non...

I still have disturbed on my lifting playlist, but I’ve dumped gaiman and die antwoord. Regardless, it was pirated anyways

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FrowingFostek lemmy.world FrowingFostek@lemmy.world
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#37 · (edited) Quote Reply

Who's getting their political takes from celebs or artists? Stop.

Plenty of apolitical people do. Is it a good idea? Prolly not. Has that stopped them before?

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MrSelfDestruct lemmy.dbzer0.com RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#38 · Quote Reply

Olivia Rodrigo is more metal than Metallica

Her music isn't my cup of tea, but I absolutely love everything she stands up for and what she does.
Metallica knows a lot of their base are probably MAGA and I bet most of the band vote MAGA. Fuck those assholes.

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orbituary lemmy.dbzer0.com orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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Doomsider lemmy.world Doomsider@lemmy.world
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Metallica stop being relevant when they started suing everyone proving that their lyrics had no bearing on reality and their greed knew no end.

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rumimevlevi sh.itjust.works rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works
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#42 · Quote Reply

Ot is not cowardness to bring the topic. He is simply a genocide supporter

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rumimevlevi sh.itjust.works rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works
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#43 · Quote Reply

Had James just not brought it up, it wouldn't be a problem. I don't think that bands are required to bring up politics and defend a side. Sheeran had his hand forced and at that point had to pick a side, and he fucked up. The only reason Metallica is getting scrutinized is because Jamie boy had to make some dumbass comments about not getting political while taking a shot at Macklemore. I was at...

It is not even political to be anti genocide

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rumimevlevi sh.itjust.works rumimevlevi@sh.itjust.works
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Seems kinda weird to pick on Metallica. None of their music strikes me as anti-colonial or revolutionary. I suspect that if the band wanted to air their politics, they'd do it on FOX news anyway. Their fans are all genX white men; they'd be fools to "come out" as liberal, much less revolutionary. And who cares about Metallica? They only have one good album and it was released in 1984.

Why bringing the topic to begin with ? He clearly threw shade on Mac for no reason

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dkppunk piefed.social dkppunk@piefed.social
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I still have disturbed on my lifting playlist, but I’ve dumped gaiman and die antwoord. Regardless, it was pirated anyways

100% get it

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Hayduke lemmy.world Hayduke@lemmy.world
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#46 · Quote Reply

Metallica lost me with the Napster shit. No moves on their part since then have corrected that course.

Fire, bad!

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

Who's getting their political takes from celebs or artists? Stop.

Ever spoken out loud to another human? Probably most do.

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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#48 · Quote Reply

Fire, bad!

I got that reference

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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#49 · Quote Reply

This is so disappointing...is it ok to still listen to their old stuff and just pretend that they broke up after Master of Puppets?

I think it's a bad idea to let later knowledge ruin music.. usually (yes there are some exceptions..don't read about the band Lostprophets...). Metallica is a band of idiots with bad selfish opinions. That doesn't mean they didn't make good art decades ago.

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Ricky Rigatoni piefed.zip RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip
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I still have disturbed on my lifting playlist, but I’ve dumped gaiman and die antwoord. Regardless, it was pirated anyways

What did Disturbed do?

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TrickDacy lemmy.world TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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Let it happen naturally: all you have to do is pay more attention to the things Hetfield and Ulrich say and do, then their music will become nauseating. Or don't and continue to enjoy them, who cares. Lucky for me I was a Megadeth fan and ignored Metallica over the Mustaine drama when I was a teenager, so when they went mask-off over Napster I locked in my opinion that they suck.

I liked both but as others said, both bands have bad political opinions. I think you can still enjoy music while knowing the creators are not great people. As long as they're not murderers or rapists or something awful like that.

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