Kagi is European. Not in the EU: they're based in Serbia. But they are European.

The US address that's associated with them is just their founder's home address.

YouTube started with a lot of angel funding, which is why it eventually monetized in the way that it has

YouTube began as an angel-funded enterprise working from a makeshift office in a garage. In November 2005, venture firm Sequoia Capital invested an initial $3.5 million,[20] and Roelof Botha (a partner of the firm and former CFO of PayPal) joined the YouTube board of directors. In April 2006, Sequoia and Artis Capital Management invested an additional $8 million in the company, which had experienced significant growth in its first few months.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_YouTube

I don't know for sure, but it seems to say "100 searches total", which is pretty lame.

If it was 100 searches a month, or even 50, then I would certainly try it. But I'm not gonna go through the process of making an account and changing my habits just to do 100 searches one time.

That's cool, thanks.

you can also find something similar in SearXNG

Technically yes I guess, but I would expect "maintenance" to refer to the cost of keeping the ice cream cart working and looking good, I wouldn't expect the wholesale cost of ice cream to be in the "maintenance" column of my cart finances.

Yeah at times I'll do 1000 a month, but 3500 excluding work related seemed pretty big.

And if you're doing that many searches and refinements, it seems the $10 a month should be more worth it.

But $10USD can be anything from a coffee to a week's wages depending on where you are in the world, so I can understand different opinions on whether it's worth it.

Basically, yeah

The average searches per user on Google is something like 30 a month lol. But I'm a 500-1000 kind of guy.

Depending on what I'm doing it can get higher, especially if I'm doing dev stuff.

I guess I'm just surprised that you do that many searches and think paying for search is a waste of money. Being able to customise search results (block Pinterest, have MDN ranked higher, rewrite reddit.com to old.reddit.com, etc) is easily worth $10 a month to me.

But as I said to someone else, $10USD can be a coffee or a weeks wages depending on where you are in the world, so it's probably going to hugely sway people's views on if it's worth it.

What ? This isn't new. They have had this for years.

I’ve been a Kagi subscriber for 6 months and this is the first I’m hearing of the small web portal, so thank you!

No, usually materials cost is tracked separately from equipment maintenance.

Yeah, if you're hitting the search engine to bring up YouTube instead of going to the site or something, probably the $10 a month tier makes more sense.

I was gonna say I thought I remembered seeing that when I used kagi. Is enabling it buried in a settings menu? I don't recall

I always go well over 300. I search everything

Right there under the search bar on my setup at least.

Sure! I mean, my point was this stuff costs money. Wasn't meant to be as technically correct as possibly.

Others are saying its not new, but it is to me. Thank you for sharing OP!

I have never heard of that before but, they have a really weird requirement for source release.

Source code will be made available to customers who have been paying for at least 12 months.

I don't think I've heard of any software doing that before,

also I really don't like how the "how do you know we don't track queries" is basically referring to pay them to see the source code once you hit the 12 month req.

That being said I just tried the trial account on it, it is pretty cool. I like the anonymity feel to it, even if the UI isn't super friendly.

God dang people, maintenance is in quotes for a reason.

Wasn't supposed to be as technically correct as possible. Meant to express to the original person that things cost money, that's it.

Kagi, who still pays money to Russia?

No, thanks!

How many upvotes did the other results have?

I mean it can be a good share and also not be new

Are you rephrasing searches often?
Not getting what you wanted the first time?
Because that's a ton of queries.

DDG gets to show more ads that way.
It might not be you, but part of the plan to make you run more queries.

kagi small web lens is honestly the best thing <3

they're a us company from palo alto....

The Russia thing is that they pay Yandex to use their results in addition to the other engines they use.

I thinks it's all the people and companies uploading thousands of hours of video every second. I'm pretty sure that's the reason for the ads.

You can also use marginalia, an open source small web search engine for this :)

Degoog has a Lemmy plugin

yea a lot of my searches are technical in nature so I need to reword them in order to have the right critera show. Like looking for a linux virtual display will require 3 different types of searches depending on how its phrased, and will try to show queries about vGPU setups or KVM which are not related to that type of virtual driver (but it technically could be). and sometimes it needs to be narrowed down to specifically your setup as well which adds more searches to it. Specific error codes such as CRTC errors require multiple searches until you can find the right code, gaming wikis and questions can be similar especially if its about more secretive parts of it such as easter eggs or secret endings.

Came here to say the same.

Is degoog any good?

I was self hosting searxng for a long time then after one of the updates I stopped getting results. A friend of mine told me about degoog so I switched and so far I like it. It has a lot of plugins and addons. I basically have it looking or feeling like Google used to. I was also able to incorporate my ollama instance for LLM summaries if I add a question mark in my searches.

If Kagi were Free (as im Free Beer), Libre (as in Free Speech/Freedom) and Open Source, it were perfect.

But not only it's not open source, but also it's paid. I ain't using nothing that isn't FLOSS.

Yeah, and that one is FLOSS (Free [as in Free Beer], Libre (as in Free Speech/Freedom] and Open Source Software). So SearXNG >>>>> Kagi.

Not all people can pay anything (myself, for example). I'm with him, and Kagi isn't FOSS too so it's even worst.

Things should be not only accesible, but also affordable for all.

At least make prices fucking progressive. If you're under certain poverty threshold, you don't pay anything. If you're over that same threshold, you pay an amount equivalent to what you actually have, so if you're barely over the threshold, then you pay drastically less than the ones that have the more money.

Good thing I stopped there instead of also getting into the difference between repair maintenance (your car's broken O2 sensor) and regular maintenance (fix an identified security vulnerability) then.

It's five bucks a month and has a lot of functionality.

are they still giving money to brave

Which is why I commented in affirmation to be more wholesome and encourage more people to post about what new, to them, things they discover.

I'm dying hahahahah! Yeah, depending on where you work that word carries a lot of baggage

56, 66, 115, 155, 156, 230, and 237

For only 300 searches, that's 10 searches a day. I do probably 50 to 100 searches per day.

So, it's really $10 a month.

I might pay $5 a month for unlimited but I'm not sure about that. Because, you know they'll raise the price if they get successful enough. And, then it's just a constant march to more enshittification.

And they apparently contribute to Yandex.

I'd rather, and I do, donate to apps like Blender, LibreOffice, Wikipedia, and Lemmy, etc. Free to use for people who can't afford to donate. I donate monthly to those because I use them a lot and I can afford it.

New to one in 10k, or whatever (xkcd)

Thought i remembered something problematic

Oof.