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q7mJI7tk1
lemmy.world
q7mJI7tk1@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-02-09 |
So…. What’s a decent email client? This will be the last of the google services I have and it’s time to end it.
I tried all the usual ones recommended, Proton, Tuta etc, but following a recommendation from another Lemmy use, I've found Fastmail to give the best results. 60GB of email storage as well. |
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MonkderVierte
lemmy.zip
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-05-30 |
According to the article, it is off by default: According to Google’s updated privacy policy, the company still promises not to use Gmail, Drive, or Google Photos content for targeted advertising by default. However, the policy now includes an important exception. Google says that restriction no longer necessarily applies “unless you choose to make data from these services available to other Go...
For now. |
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artyom
piefed.social
artyom@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-06-08 |
and if you can't selfhost, ente.io is also a good option. but it's a different software.
There's also managed Immich options (although Ente is probably better in this case since it is ecrypted): https://store.elfhosted.com/product/immich/ (although I don't think I'd trust a service that appears to be 100% AI-generated). |
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fxdave
lemmy.ml
fxdave@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-03-15 |
Reminder that Immich has basically all the features of Google Photos and more, and you can migrate fairly easily by doing a Google Takeout. https://www.bigiron.cc/guides/migrating-google-photos-to-immich-via-takeout
I also made a tool with my brother to share photos with others in a trip: https://github.com/Linkee12/PhotoBin You can create a temporary album available for 30days, and everybody can share, select what they want to save and export. You can also put it on a VPS because it's E2E encrypted, the server doesn't see your photos. |
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blackshirt
lemmy.world
blackshirt@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-06-05 |
Is protonmail the easiest switch from Gmail?
Custom domain first, then chose your email provider. I'm on protonmail now, but was on Zoho mail before. My custom domain allows me to switch more easily, it took me literally 3 years to switch from @gmail.com, never again. |
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Eeyore_Syndrome
sh.itjust.works
Eeyore_Syndrome@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-16 |
I got a year of @Thundermail.com for $72.00.
I use The Flatpak on my Desktop and grabbed it from F-Droid on my Pixel 10. I don't even have Google Play Services installed on my daily driver/main profile. 🙃 |
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eleijeep
piefed.social
eleijeep@piefed.social Joined: 2025-09-22 |
and if you can't selfhost, ente.io is also a good option. but it's a different software.
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mazzilius_marsti
lemmy.world
mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-07-15 |
Moving to Ente? Or moving to Proton family? Mixed of both? I also found out the reported Photos usage via Google profile is way undercounted. It shows i have 30 GB of photos. I just requested a checkout of all Photos and well.... i need to download 120GB... |
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lechekaflan
lemmy.world
lechekaflan@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-21 |
Original source article: https://www.androidauthority.com/google-personal-intelligence-privacy-3727111/ Also, fuck off, Pichai. You fucking banchode. |
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joeschmoe
lemmy.world
joeschmoe@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-10 |
Fucking hell. Time to take all the photos down. It's been at least a decade since a photo has been uploaded there, because I knew Google can't be trusted and I disabled the automatic upload, just hadn't taken the already uploaded images down. On top of that, for months I have been in the process of moving off gmail to Zoho Mail. Fuck Google. |
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iLStrix
lemmy.world
iLStrix@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Reminder that Immich has basically all the features of Google Photos and more, and you can migrate fairly easily by doing a Google Takeout. https://www.bigiron.cc/guides/migrating-google-photos-to-immich-via-takeout
Problem being that even a 4TB NAS costs almost 1000€ to buy or build... It's painful. |
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green_goglin
thelemmy.club
green_goglin@thelemmy.club Joined: 2026-02-08 |
Odd how these headlines always ramp up as Alphabet ( |
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razen
lemmy.world
razen@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-08 |
Problem is every institution by default expects you to have gmail. If not then you need to have it. This is what fucked up. |
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melsaskca
lemmy.ca
melsaskca@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-09 |
Those advertisers are constantly subsidizing the evil tech bros. Fuck all products! /s |
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asdfasdfasdf
lemmy.world
asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-25 |
There's also managed Immich options (although Ente is probably better in this case since it is ecrypted): https://pixelunion.eu/ https://store.elfhosted.com/product/immich/ (although I don't think I'd trust a service that appears to be 100% AI-generated). https://elest.io/open-source/immich
I've been using PixelUnion for some time now to test if I actually am comfortable with deleting Google Photos and I'm pretty sure I'm about to pull the trigger. They've been fantastic. I also tried Ente but I honestly do not like them. It would be ideal if Immich were E2E encrypted but for me the difference in quality is so big that I don't mind them not being encrypted. |
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OpenAltFinder
lemmy.world
OpenAltFinder@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-05-14 |
If you want to take back control of your data, there are open source alternatives to almost every Google product |
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deczzz
lemmy.dbzer0.com
deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.comJoined: 2023-07-08 |
Immich as recommended by a few others, and there's also Nextcloud, but keep in mind Nextcloud is a little "heavier" in that it has more functions and features. For example it can be used as a drive, calendar, contacts, notes, and photo alternative. Look into a addin for Nextcloud called memories that I personally like better than the native photo app. I run both immich and Nextcloud, as well as...
Nextcloud is awful with photos. Loads slow, no useful features for photos. Otherwise it's great but would go for immich any day when it comes to photos |
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Wispy2891
lemmy.world
Wispy2891@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-13 |
ente is vibe-coded
It launched commercially in early 2021 so the base is definitely human coded |
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Kenny4tunes
lemmy.world
Kenny4tunes@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-10-17 |
Great, so I'm going to get advertisements of an "adult" nature soon |
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phonics
lemmy.world
phonics@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-15 |
Do you just mean an email client? Then fairmail or thunderbird
Yup thanks |
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Armand1
lemmy.world
Armand1@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-08-15 |
Problem being that even a 4TB NAS costs almost 1000€ to buy or build... It's painful.
Just looked and yeah, not far off when you buy new. An old PC with a couple of hard drives can do the trick, but obviously it's more work to set up. The used and refurb market is your friend. For large capacity refurb enterprise-grade drives, I recommend serverpartdeals I've had some good 16TB drives from there for a good few years and still kicking. They can be a little loud though. You can get 10TB drives for maybe €250. A Synology 4-bay NAS can be bought second hand from eBay for about €200-€300. They aren't very powerful but might be fine for Immich and pretty easy to use. Many come with some hard drives you can pawn off or get started with using a RAID config that means if one or two die you are fine. If the drives are second hand (not pro refurb) though do not pay more than 30% of retail price because who knows how long they will last. Photos don't take up that much space. Even 100 000 photos tends to take up less than 500GB. Video is much heavier, so if you're a videographer you may struggle without reencoding. |
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InputZero
lemmy.world
InputZero@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-01-08 |
Fucking hell. Time to take all the photos down. It's been at least a decade since a photo has been uploaded there, because I knew Google can't be trusted and I disabled the automatic upload, just hadn't taken the already uploaded images down. On top of that, for months I have been in the process of moving off gmail to Zoho Mail. Fuck Google.
Taking your photos down may not remove them from their dataset. If they really wanted to they could restore them for their dataset. You wouldn't ever know. |
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ThirdConsul
lemmy.zip
ThirdConsul@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-01-03 |
Problem is every institution by default expects you to have gmail. If not then you need to have it. This is what fucked up.
No, every institution expects you to have an e-mail. Gmail is just one of the thousands upon thousands of providers. |
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TheEntity
lemmy.world
TheEntity@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-04 |
Problem is every institution by default expects you to have gmail. If not then you need to have it. This is what fucked up.
At this point it's tempting to tell them Google has banned you. |
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wampus
lemmy.ca
wampus@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-09 |
Not at all surprising. Microsoft is already doing similar sorts of things it seems. Like on a work system, I was looking at one of our vendor sites, and Edge's AI assistant started recommending places I could get a cheaper deal for items that I stopped to look at for a bit too long. So not only do you get a shittier slop infested product in Edge, but it's also pretty much an AI powered adware that watches every page you visit, and you can't easily get rid of it / its monitoring. |
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alexdeathway
programming.dev
alexdeathway@programming.dev Joined: 2023-11-28 |
No, every institution expects you to have an e-mail. Gmail is just one of the thousands upon thousands of providers.
You will be surprised. |
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selokichtli
lemmy.ml
selokichtli@lemmy.ml Joined: 2021-03-20 |
Moochs. Everything has become a transaction for them. |
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Hogrider
lemmy.world
OleFoFa@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-11 |
Moochs. Everything has become a transaction for them.
It's not a transaction anymore, the values are skewed so heavily in favour of Google so that it is far better to pay for services that respect your privacy. |
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fuzzyfirefox
lemmy.world
fuzzyfirefox@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Most important part of the article. |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
"Don't Be Evil"
There's a reason they scrapped that slogan again. |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
They stopped doing that in 2017. Until now.
Their own phrasing:
Sounds a lot like weasel wording to me. Could be they're still scanning - for other pruposes. I'd rather they tell us all the data mining they do do. |
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Adniem
thelemmy.club
Adniem@thelemmy.club Joined: 2026-10-13 |
AT THIS POINT, Google is just gonna try to replace our friends with AI that only advertise and if we say no to the ai for advertising, it sends a drone to kill us (remember there will be alternatives) |
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A_norny_mousse
piefed.social
A_norny_mousse@piefed.socialJoined: 2026-09-27 |
And still people are going to say "I have nothing to hide". (edit: or any variation of This is Fine) Maybe a few less now. |
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jtrek
startrek.website
jtrek@startrek.website Joined: 2026-02-22 |
Targeted advertising should be illegal. Solves a lot of problems. You can pick an ad based on its location (sports.example.com can have sports ads and astrology.example.com star ads), but not based on who's viewing it. Now there's less motivation to read all your personal information. |
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𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘
infosec.pub
01189998819991197253@infosec.pubJoined: 2023-06-04 |
And still people are going to say "I have nothing to hide". (edit: or any variation of This is Fine) Maybe a few less now.
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Thor_Whale
lemmus.org
Thor_Whale@lemmus.orgJoined: 2026-01-26 |
Glad you said this because I went into my Google accounts and shut all that crap off. Instead of getting ads for mountain bikes I'm going to get ads for paint brushes and manicures but at least they don't know anything about me. |
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ReluctantMuskrat
lemmy.world
ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-05 |
Problem is every institution by default expects you to have gmail. If not then you need to have it. This is what fucked up.
Can you name one? Email, yes. Gmail though? |
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RememberTheApollo_
lemmy.world
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-08-26 |
Huh. Shows you how cynical I am, I already thought they were doing this. |
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daisykutter
lemmy.dbzer0.com
daisykutter@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-30 |
Glad you said this because I went into my Google accounts and shut all that crap off. Instead of getting ads for mountain bikes I'm going to get ads for paint brushes and manicures but at least they don't know anything about me.
They do know everything about you, and probably will sell it or exploit it in some other way, but not with targeted ads, you turned that off. |
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reksas
sopuli.xyz
reksas@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-11 |
And still people are going to say "I have nothing to hide". (edit: or any variation of This is Fine) Maybe a few less now.
people who have nothing to hide should let everyone see any information they have |
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TigerAce
lemmy.dbzer0.com
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-13 |
Wait.... This is new? They didn't do that already? Really? I though this was the whole business model which made Google so big. |
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BlushedPotatoPlayers
sopuli.xyz
BlushedPotatoPlayers@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-08-15 |
Can you name one? Email, yes. Gmail though?
It happens on some pages. Doesn't let you in with "unknown" domains claiming that it's not a real email |
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chronicledmonocle
lemmy.world
chronicledmonocle@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-24 |
Remember when the entire selling point of Gmail was lots of storage and "no obtrusive ads like Yahoo Mail or Hotmail"? Pepperidge Farms remembers. |
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Smoogs
lemmy.world
Smoogs@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-22 |
And still people are going to say "I have nothing to hide". (edit: or any variation of This is Fine) Maybe a few less now.
Which isnt even the point and never has been. It is all about potential of material that someone can use against a person for likeness. Never mind having nothing to hide when anyone can invent something for you to hide. |
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Smoogs
lemmy.world
Smoogs@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-22 |
If you want to take back control of your data, there are open source alternatives to almost every Google product
this needs more visibility |
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ReluctantMuskrat
lemmy.world
ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-05 |
It happens on some pages. Doesn't let you in with "unknown" domains claiming that it's not a real email
First, he specifically said "every institution by default expects you to have gmail." Not requires a known domain. So I asked for an example. Regarding your experience, I'd say that's still very, very rare. Certainly not "every institution" like OP claimed, and probably not even common large institutions. I'd be interested in an example of even one of those. Rejecting specific temp email domains is certainly something some sites do, but as someone that has a couple unique domains that I've used for years, large companies requiring Gmail or rejecting custom domains is not something I've experienced thus am curious about a specific example of such claims. |
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ReluctantMuskrat
lemmy.world
ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-05 |
You will be surprised.
So surprise us?? |
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Zagorath
quokk.au
Zagorath@quokk.au Joined: 2025-06-27 |
What about a good Google Photos alternative? Preferably something I can self-host. (Cloud storage is fine too, 1TB minimum, $15/mo max.) I've been wanting to DeGoogle for years but haven't yet out of convenience. Must have, no compromise features: A "Memories" feature that works as good as Google's, and a search box that lets me find images by describing what's in them. Edit: Thanks for all the...
This repo exists solely to help you compare all the alternatives. My quick look through the feature matrix, the best options (purely in terms of the number of features in the comparison) are Ente, Immich, and Nextcloud (there's both Nextcloud Photos and Nextcloud Memories—I'm not sure how they work together vs separately). Unfortunately a "memories" feature isn't in the feature matrix, but from a quick search I believe all the options I just named have it. |
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OhVenus_Baby
lemmy.ml
OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-11-14 |
Posteo is a quality service. |
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Zagorath
quokk.au
Zagorath@quokk.au Joined: 2025-06-27 |
Nextcloud is awful with photos. Loads slow, no useful features for photos. Otherwise it's great but would go for immich any day when it comes to photos
Are you talking about Nextcloud core, or specifically the Nextcloud Photos app? |
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