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Sunflier
lemmy.world
Sunflier@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-27 |
Link: https://gazette.com/2026/10/23/trump-threatens-to-veto-everything-during-a-democratic-congress/
So, they will override his veto |
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orlyowl
piefed.ca
orlyowl@piefed.caJoined: 2026-02-28 |
I will be giddy if Dems win enough seats to have the 2/3 of both house and senate it takes to do so. |
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BooBees
fedinsfw.app
BooBees@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-05-26 |
Dems will likely do well, but I don’t think they’ll get 2/3rd majority and republicans for sure aren’t gonna help Dems, they’re too far gone. |
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CharlesDarwin
lemmy.world
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-22 |
Dems will likely do well, but I don’t think they’ll get 2/3rd majority and republicans for sure aren’t gonna help Dems, they’re too far gone.
And idiotic low-info voters (many of them are self-styled "independents", LOL) will then blame the Democrats for not doing enough and send in Republicans again. |
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auzy1
lemmy.world
auzy1@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-05-03 |
How many are needed to officially boot the diarrhea colored convicted criminal? |
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HumanOnEarth
lemmy.ca
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-08-23 |
How many are needed to officially boot the diarrhea colored convicted criminal?
Way more than they will ever get, unfortunately |
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auzy1
lemmy.world
auzy1@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-05-03 |
And idiotic low-info voters (many of them are self-styled "independents", LOL) will then blame the Democrats for not doing enough and send in Republicans again.
They're not low info voters. They're generally just closeted far right whingers. |
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BooBees
fedinsfw.app
BooBees@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-05-26 |
And idiotic low-info voters (many of them are self-styled "independents", LOL) will then blame the Democrats for not doing enough and send in Republicans again.
That’s definitely a high likelihood, but there’s also a high likelihood that republicans outright refuse to seat Dems elected, Trump refuses to leave and claims he won a third term (deserves one), and the courts will let it all happen, resulting in arrests of Dems and the loss of the democratic system as we know it. That means a power vacuum will emerge inevitably, whatever the end result of this coup, and power vacuums almost always end up with a more authoritarian leader in place and less democracy. |
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HumanOnEarth
lemmy.ca
HumanOnEarth@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-08-23 |
So, they will override his veto I will be giddy if Dems win enough seats to have the 2/3 of both house and senate it takes to do so.
If that happens and sticks (and he is removed from the presidency), come back to this comment and I will send you $1,000. No joke. I'm not worried. But I promise I will honour this. |
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Serinus
lemmy.world
Serinus@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
Uh, yeah. That's how it usually works. Why do I get the impression that his idea of "making a deal" involves paying him personally? |
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orlyowl
piefed.ca
orlyowl@piefed.caJoined: 2026-02-28 |
If that happens and sticks (and he is removed from the presidency), come back to this comment and I will send you $1,000. No joke. I'm not worried. But I promise I will honour this.
Sounds like a deal! 🙂 |
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Arcanepotato
crazypeople.online
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineJoined: 2025-05-24 |
This weakens the vote-blue-no-matter-who tactic -> candidates from other parties get more traction -> based on this momentum they win some positions in future elections -> americans discover the benefits of parties working together to achieve goals because majorities governments become less likely -> trump saves america? Brb emailing Mr. Shyamalan |
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BigMacHole
thelemmy.club
BigMacHole@thelemmy.club Joined: 2026-03-16 |
Well THERE goes Any and ALL Attempts to Change things! Just VOTE in 2028 so we can FINALLY Enact change! -LITERALLY Democratic Politicians! |
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darvocet
infosec.pub
darvocet@infosec.pub Joined: 2023-06-23 |
Sounds like a deal! 🙂
There's a negative chance of this happening. So most likely you owe him 1,000. I don't know how that's possible but I'm certain of it. |
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aramis87
fedia.io
aramis87@fedia.io Joined: 2024-03-07 |
So? It's better than the shit the Republicans have passed. |
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Pegajace
lemmy.world
Pegajace@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-02 |
So, they will override his veto I will be giddy if Dems win enough seats to have the 2/3 of both house and senate it takes to do so.
Dems would have to win all but two of the thirty-three 2026 Senate races to reach 67 votes (including independents). I wouldn't hold my breath. |
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CainTheLongshot
lemmy.world
CainTheLongshot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-05 |
How many are needed to officially boot the diarrhea colored convicted criminal?
Assuming all seats are filled and are present, 218 in the House to impeach, 67 in the Senate to convict and remove. |
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xtr0n
sh.itjust.works
xtr0n@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-10 |
So, they will override his veto I will be giddy if Dems win enough seats to have the 2/3 of both house and senate it takes to do so.
They get a 2/3 majority but it depends on John Fetterman. A finger on the monkey’s paw curls … |
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AreaKode
riskeratspizza.com
areakode@riskeratspizza.com Joined: 2026-01-08 |
They're not low info voters. They're generally just closeted far right whingers.
Who will wholeheartedly accept progressive policies... unless you tell them that this is what leftists want... |
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KoboldCoterie
pawb.social
KoboldCoterie@pawb.socialJoined: 2023-06-05 |
That’s definitely a high likelihood, but there’s also a high likelihood that republicans outright refuse to seat Dems elected, Trump refuses to leave and claims he won a third term (deserves one), and the courts will let it all happen, resulting in arrests of Dems and the loss of the democratic system as we know it. That means a power vacuum will emerge inevitably, whatever the end result of th...
If this or anything close to it happens, the only recourse is violence. |
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KoboldCoterie
pawb.social
KoboldCoterie@pawb.socialJoined: 2023-06-05 |
Well THERE goes Any and ALL Attempts to Change things! Just VOTE in 2028 so we can FINALLY Enact change! -LITERALLY Democratic Politicians!
I mean, complete and total gridlock where nothing at all gets done in 2 years would be a massive improvement over what we have now. |
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BooBees
fedinsfw.app
BooBees@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-05-26 |
If this or anything close to it happens, the only recourse is violence.
That’s the power vacuum part. The emerging authoritarian is whoever manages to put down the violence typically |
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jordanlund
Moderator
jordanlund@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-30 |
Assuming all seats are filled and are present, 218 in the House to impeach, 67 in the Senate to convict and remove.
And that would just install J.D. Vance for a '28 run. |
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WhyIHateTheInternet
lemmy.world
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-17 |
“And then the [other party] comes and they want to make a deal. So we’ll work it out.” Uh, yeah. That's how it usually works. Why do I get the impression that his idea of "making a deal" involves paying him personally?
Well if you kick a dog 99 times when you walk in the door it's probably expecting to get kicked the next time |
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yoriaiko
lemmy.blahaj.zone
yoriaiko@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2025-03-10 |
that still means orange won't be able to ruin world anymore? It's something. |
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arctanthrope
lemmy.world
arctanthrope@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-11-25 |
And that would just install J.D. Vance for a '28 run.
hell, if they have that many votes, they could immediately impeach and remove Vance too, and then whoever House Dems pick to be Speaker becomes president. obviously not gonna happen, but technically possible |
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Makeitstop
lemmy.world
Makeitstop@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-06 |
Dems would have to win all but two of the thirty-three 2026 Senate races to reach 67 votes (including independents). I wouldn't hold my breath.
Assuming no Republicans cross the aisle. That's a fairly reasonable assumption today because the Republican party has been purged of anyone who would be willing to cross Trump. But I suspect that assumption might not remain so valid if we were to see the kind of blue tsunami it would take to get anywhere near 2/3 of the Senate. Even if you only had 64 seats instead of 67, that still means almost every state went blue, including most of the deep red ones. Any politician with basic survival instincts is going to recognize that tying themselves to the lame duck president that has practically destroyed their party is not going to be a good long term strategy. It's not much more plausible a scenario than one where Dems win a full supermajority, but if it were to happen, I would be shocked if every single Republican chose to go down with the ship. |
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Montagge
lemmy.zip
Montagge@lemmy.zipJoined: 2024-03-02 |
They're not low info voters. They're generally just closeted far right whingers.
That Venn diagram is almost a circle |
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Rentlar
lemmy.ca
Rentlar@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-03-14 |
Hmmm, while they do their job investigating Trump, I'm wondering why don't Democrats just give him gaudy looking prizes and call him the best president ever, make AI Trump Jesus healing leper style paintings and a little money on the side to pass Medicare for All and other priorities? He is attracted to flattery, vanity projects and faux gold trinkets, he has no inner morals, so his signature on a bill might not be as hard to get as some might think... |
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Zedstrian
sopuli.xyz
Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-03-30 |
Assuming no Republicans cross the aisle. That's a fairly reasonable assumption today because the Republican party has been purged of anyone who would be willing to cross Trump. But I suspect that assumption might not remain so valid if we were to see the kind of blue tsunami it would take to get anywhere near 2/3 of the Senate. Even if you only had 64 seats instead of 67, that still means almos...
54 seats is the current upper bound of projections for the Democrats in the Senate, let alone 67. Even the moderately Republican-favoring Senate races of South Carolina, Florida, and Nebraska additionally all going blue—currently unlikely—would only take it to 57. Perhaps enough to prevent a filibuster on contentious issues with enough bipartisan support, but not enough to overturn a veto in most cases. |
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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞
lemmy.world
daychilde@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-13 |
I think if Trump vetoes everything, voters might actually not blame Democrats for getting nothing done, so that might actually carry over the anger for two years and help a real blue wave happen. So that might be nice, IF we can minimize establishment Dems fucking shit up and get more progressives in there. |
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CainTheLongshot
lemmy.world
CainTheLongshot@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-05 |
hell, if they have that many votes, they could immediately impeach and remove Vance too, and then whoever House Dems pick to be Speaker becomes president. obviously not gonna happen, but technically possible
Yeah, last i checked on 270 to win, Dems would need to win some VERY improbable Senate races to pull off the 67 needed to convict and remove both. Possible, just improbable. If they don't reach the 67 needed, they need to save any impeachment hearings because people are voting based on economy and having impeachment hearings will come off as out of touch, like the last time. Instead they should focus on investigating and releasing the Epstein files, as there seems to be bipartisan support for that, and once fully released, test public sentiment on impeachment. That may be the only way to get enough votes, but the end result would be a Vance presidency, unless they can somehow tie him to it as well, which is unlikely. |
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AWistfulNihilist
lemmy.world
AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
And that would just install J.D. Vance for a '28 run.
We should be so lucky |
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acchariya
lemmy.world
acchariya@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-23 |
Hmmm, while they do their job investigating Trump, I'm wondering why don't Democrats just give him gaudy looking prizes and call him the best president ever, make AI Trump Jesus healing leper style paintings and a little money on the side to pass Medicare for All and other priorities? He is attracted to flattery, vanity projects and faux gold trinkets, he has no inner morals, so his signature o...
The Europeans figured this out already, this is the smart way to deal with trump. He has to think it was all his idea, trump care 2027! Yes greatest ever genious president finally solved healthcare even Obama couldn't! |
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kreskin
lemmy.world
kreskin@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-11-03 |
vetoing everything would be a vast vast improvement. |
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Professorozone
lemmy.world
Professorozone@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-14 |
“And then the [other party] comes and they want to make a deal. So we’ll work it out.” Uh, yeah. That's how it usually works. Why do I get the impression that his idea of "making a deal" involves paying him personally?
Because it usually does? |
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leadore
lemmy.world
leadore@lemmy.worldJoined: 2024-07-09 |
So, they will override his veto I will be giddy if Dems win enough seats to have the 2/3 of both house and senate it takes to do so.
There aren't even enough open seats for them to win that many. |
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pelespirit
sh.itjust.works
pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-14 |
The Europeans figured this out already, this is the smart way to deal with trump. He has to think it was all his idea, trump care 2027! Yes greatest ever genious president finally solved healthcare even Obama couldn't!
So have Americans. Tim Cook is the chairman of apple now.
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FreshParsnip
lemmy.ca
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-07-02 |
Trump likes big butts and he cannot lie |
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Radical_Socialist_t00t
lemmy.ca
Radical_Socialist_t00t@lemmy.caJoined: 2026-06-29 |
Americans should practice their aim more. That orange toad shouldn't be up and about already 3 times |
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BeMoreCareful
lemmy.world
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
That’s the power vacuum part. The emerging authoritarian is whoever manages to put down the violence typically
There's no real economic incentive for opposition. |
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BooBees
fedinsfw.app
BooBees@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-05-26 |
There's no real economic incentive for opposition.
It’s not the promise of profits that usually takes it there, it’s typically hunger, desperation, and giving up on waiting for the system to step in and do something to change what’s obviously led to the stagnant and corrosive economic system that’s leading many to that hunger and desperation. |
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WesternInfidels
feddit.online
WesternInfidels@feddit.online Joined: 2026-01-29 |
A very clear statement that he values petty party politics more than leadership of the nation. The un-patriot president. Anti-citizen one. |
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partial_accumen
lemmy.world
partial_accumen@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Dems will likely do well, but I don’t think they’ll get 2/3rd majority and republicans for sure aren’t gonna help Dems, they’re too far gone.
Every progressive policy that passes the House and Senate but gets vetoed by trump becomes a reason to vote for a Democratic President in 2028. Trump would almost be doing the Democrats a favor if he vetoed everything. Bluedog Democrats in Congress could vote for all kinds of progressive things with the knowledge they won't pass into law. They'd be able to score all the political points with their constituency without suffering any fallout from their corporate donors. Imagine if, in the next 2 years, Democrats in Congress pass:
All of these trump would veto, of course, but that leaves the GOP significantly worse off in the next election. |
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obviouspornalt
fedinsfw.app
obviouspornalt@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-20 |
Dems will likely do well, but I don’t think they’ll get 2/3rd majority and republicans for sure aren’t gonna help Dems, they’re too far gone.
democrats would have to win 20 seats currently held by Republicans as well as hold all their current seats. mathematically, this is possible, there are currently 22 Republican seats contested this election. current polling, however, shows the likely outcome is democrats get +3 seats. |
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obviouspornalt
fedinsfw.app
obviouspornalt@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-20 |
Assuming no Republicans cross the aisle. That's a fairly reasonable assumption today because the Republican party has been purged of anyone who would be willing to cross Trump. But I suspect that assumption might not remain so valid if we were to see the kind of blue tsunami it would take to get anywhere near 2/3 of the Senate. Even if you only had 64 seats instead of 67, that still means almos...
all of the senators are so old that I bet a lot of them don't give a shit about long term strategy |
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obviouspornalt
fedinsfw.app
obviouspornalt@fedinsfw.app Joined: 2026-02-20 |
They get a 2/3 majority but it depends on John Fetterman. A finger on the monkey’s paw curls …
my bet is that democrats pick up +3 seats and fetterman decides to either caucus with the Republicans or at minimum threaten to spoil every vote. |
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Thebeardedsinglemalt
lemmy.world
Thebeardedsinglemalt@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-07-17 |
Just a reminder...the reds outright said during Biden's term that they would outright block any meaningful legislation for the sole reason to make him look bad. They give absolute ZERO FUCKS about actually making America great again but only about enriching themselves. |
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BillyClark
piefed.social
BillyClark@piefed.social Joined: 2026-01-21 |
Even billionaires took a long time to figure it out. But really, Democrats aren't doing too badly in the current situation. And Trump has demonstrated over and over that even if you swear fealty to him, he'll stab you in the back for even a small personal benefit. |
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minorkeys
sh.itjust.works
minorkeys@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-04-22 |
A very clear statement that he values petty party politics more than leadership of the nation. The un-patriot president. Anti-citizen one.
He doesn't care about politics, he's just doing whatever he wants and people are actioning on it. It's as simple as it can be. |
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some_designer_dude
lemmy.world
some_designer_dude@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
A very clear statement that he values petty party politics more than leadership of the nation. The un-patriot president. Anti-citizen one.
His entire presidency has been a very clear statement of his values. |
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