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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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halendos lemmy.world halendos@lemmy.world
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Thanks for reminding me to do that!

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micgerne lemmy.dbzer0.com micgerne@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#3 · Quote Reply

there's 4 of them, coincidence or conspiracy?

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SteveTech aussie.zone SteveTech@aussie.zone
Joined: 2025-09-30
#4 · (edited) Quote Reply

FYI, G3 is the only one listed with the issue, the others are fine AFAIK. But if you don't trust eMudhra at all after that, then that's fair.

Edit: Actually it's the intermediate certs that are compromised, the roots are still fine, but many of them come from the G3 root cert (and Sectigo's AAA Certificate Services)

Source: https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/

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MaggiWuerze feddit.org MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-02
#5 · Quote Reply

Where did you find that?

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-30
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FYI, G3 is the only one listed with the issue, the others are fine AFAIK. But if you don't trust eMudhra at all after that, then that's fair. Edit: Actually it's the intermediate certs that are compromised, the roots are still fine, but many of them come from the G3 root cert (and Sectigo's AAA Certificate Services) Source: https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/

Oh, thanks for that! 😊 I just heard that they quit the TLS business all together.

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hayvan piefed.world hayvan@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-12-06
#7 · Quote Reply

Where did you find that?

On Android:

Security and privacy -> more security settings -> view certificates

Or go to settings and serach of certificates in the search bar

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SteveTech aussie.zone SteveTech@aussie.zone
Joined: 2025-09-30
#8 · Quote Reply

Oh, thanks for that! 😊 I just heard that they quit the TLS business all together.

Yeah, my understanding was they're not issuing new certificates, but the current ones are still valid until they've expired.

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-30
#9 · Quote Reply

Where did you find that?

Settings - Security and privacy - More security settings - View security certificates

Mind you, I'm using an outdated Android 15 with a similarly outdated One UI 7. I hope that either AOSP or Samsung already have patched emudhra out of the latest releases? I'm only doing this because I'm not updating my phone anymore, because One UI 8 and above have disabled unlocking of the bootloader.

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-30
#10 · (edited) Quote Reply

there's 4 of them, coincidence or conspiracy?

Well now you've put me on a list. Thanks.

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redjard reddthat.com Redjard@reddthat.com
Joined: 2023-08-06
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FYI, G3 is the only one listed with the issue, the others are fine AFAIK. But if you don't trust eMudhra at all after that, then that's fair. Edit: Actually it's the intermediate certs that are compromised, the roots are still fine, but many of them come from the G3 root cert (and Sectigo's AAA Certificate Services) Source: https://emudhra.we-have-a-problem.com/

They closed shop entirely, so there won't be any new certs signed anyway

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MaggiWuerze feddit.org MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-07-02
#12 · Quote Reply

On Android: Security and privacy -> more security settings -> view certificates Or go to settings and serach of certificates in the search bar

Thanks, found it

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BeatTakeshi lemmy.world BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-12
#13 · Quote Reply

On Android: Security and privacy -> more security settings -> view certificates Or go to settings and serach of certificates in the search bar

Thanks! How was this not widely spread on day 1? Why wasn't it pushed as an ota update to deactivate them?

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hayvan piefed.world hayvan@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-12-06
#14 · Quote Reply

Thanks! How was this not widely spread on day 1? Why wasn't it pushed as an ota update to deactivate them?

eMudhra invalidated their insecure certificates and released renewed ones as far as I know.

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2026-03-30
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Thanks for reminding me to do that!

No problem! But as I told another person, I’m only doing this because I’m not updating my phone anymore, because One UI 8 and above have disabled unlocking of the bootloader. If you're not rooted and you are still receiving updates from the vendor and Google, then I can't imagine this being useful.

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SillyDude lemmy.zip SillyDude@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-07
#16 · Quote Reply

Settings - Security and privacy - More security settings - View security certificates Mind you, I'm using an outdated Android 15 with a similarly outdated One UI 7. I hope that either AOSP or Samsung already have patched emudhra out of the latest releases? I'm only doing this because I'm not updating my phone anymore, because One UI 8 and above have disabled unlocking of the bootloader.

outdated Android 15 with a similarly outdated One UI 7

...outdated @ 15 w/ 7?

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#17 · Quote Reply

outdated Android 15 with a similarly outdated One UI 7 ...outdated @ 15 w/ 7?

Good God WHAT are you running πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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SillyDude lemmy.zip SillyDude@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-07
#18 · Quote Reply

Good God WHAT are you running πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Uhhh, well on my most up to date device its at least a double digit android version.

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state_electrician discuss.tchncs.de state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-12
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I once tried to disable all but the ones I actually need. There are close to 200 CAs trusted by my devices and I only need to trust about 15 of them. But it's a colossal pain in the ass to figure out which CA an app needs, so I abandoned that experiment.

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zwerg feddit.org zwerg@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-07-09
#20 · Quote Reply

Why isn't this a change pushed by Google?

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#21 · Quote Reply

I once tried to disable all but the ones I actually need. There are close to 200 CAs trusted by my devices and I only need to trust about 15 of them. But it's a colossal pain in the ass to figure out which CA an app needs, so I abandoned that experiment.

Yeah, I too had that ambition once, but I didn't even know where to begin, since I don't know how to find out which once my apps, websites and other services actually need. Other than investigating whole chains of collaboration between the various owners and devs of those services. Arduous much? πŸ˜…

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#22 · (edited) Quote Reply

Why isn't this a change pushed by Google?

Is it not? I have no idea. My device isn't legitimate in their eyes. πŸ˜… (Rooted.)

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RustySharp programming.dev RustySharp@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-19
#23 · Quote Reply

Uhhh, well on my most up to date device its at least a double digit android version.

8.0 is double digit, right?

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RustySharp programming.dev RustySharp@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-19
#24 · Quote Reply

eMudhra invalidated their insecure certificates and released renewed ones as far as I know.

The new ones are 10 times more secure.

The key is now "40"

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Hedup lemmy.world Hedup@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-05-22
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Yeah, I too had that ambition once, but I didn't even know where to begin, since I don't know how to find out which once my apps, websites and other services actually need. Other than investigating whole chains of collaboration between the various owners and devs of those services. Arduous much? πŸ˜…

Arduous much?

Sounds like a job for a machine.

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#26 · Quote Reply

Arduous much? Sounds like a job for a machine.

Careful! They're gonna whoop our asses:
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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#27 · Quote Reply

8.0 is double digit, right?

I needed this comment. Thanks. πŸ˜‚

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#28 · Quote Reply

The new ones are 10 times more secure. The key is now "40"

There it is again. You're shining today. 🀣

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SteveTech aussie.zone SteveTech@aussie.zone
Joined: 2025-09-30
#29 · Quote Reply

Why isn't this a change pushed by Google?

Because these are root certs which are still fine, it's the intermediate certs that are compromised.

I still disabled eMudhra's emSign G3 anyway, but that's probably why Google hasn't disabled the ones shown.

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slazer2au lemmy.world slazer2au@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-30
#30 · (edited) Quote Reply

Yeah, my understanding was they're not issuing new certificates, but the current ones are still valid until they've expired.

Recently learned that root CA don't actually expire. Yes, they have an expiration date, but nothing pays attention to it for a CA.

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exdor programming.dev exdor@programming.dev
Joined: 2026-08-20
#31 · Quote Reply

Shouldnt you also disable the "Comodo" ones?

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#32 · Quote Reply

Shouldnt you also disable the "Comodo" ones?

Pray tell πŸ€”

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SteveTech aussie.zone SteveTech@aussie.zone
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#33 · Quote Reply

Recently learned that root CA don't actually expire. Yes, they have an expiration date, but nothing pays attention to it for a CA.

Well you can't sign new certs (with the current date) with an expired root/intermediate cert, but the root/intermediate cert expiring doesn't strictly invalidate the already signed certs.

But I was more talking about the end-user certificates in the previous comment.

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Arthur Besse lemmy.ml cypherpunks@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-01-17
#34 · (edited) Quote Reply

Pray tell πŸ€”

they were/are a shittier-than-average CA that got famously hacked in 2011 and less famously other times; later they bizarrely tried to trademark the name "Lets Encrypt" (after the real Lets Encrypt already existed). Since 2022 they're called "Xcitium" and "Sectigo".

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ulterno programming.dev ulterno@programming.dev
Joined: 2024-11-12
#35 · Quote Reply

Is it not? I have no idea. My device isn't legitimate in their eyes. πŸ˜… (Rooted.)

Yeah, no need to trust them with this.
I got a notification that comes after an update, showing new features, which was a day after looking at these memes.
And I still had the G3 enabled.

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ulterno programming.dev ulterno@programming.dev
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#36 · (edited) Quote Reply

Settings - Security and privacy - More security settings - View security certificates Mind you, I'm using an outdated Android 15 with a similarly outdated One UI 7. I hope that either AOSP or Samsung already have patched emudhra out of the latest releases? I'm only doing this because I'm not updating my phone anymore, because One UI 8 and above have disabled unlocking of the bootloader.

NOpe.

Just got an Android update ~ half a day ago.
Just checked the certs, all were there and enabled.

And this is stock Android.

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#37 · Quote Reply

they were/are a shittier-than-average CA that got famously hacked in 2011 and less famously other times; later they bizarrely tried to trademark the name "Lets Encrypt" (after the real Lets Encrypt already existed). Since 2022 they're called "Xcitium" and "Sectigo".

Holy crap, that is some valuable insight! Thanks! :D

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meejle piefed.world meejle@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-02-08
#38 · Quote Reply

If anyone else here uses AdGuard, the latest version of their app rejects the affected certificates. πŸ‘

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klankin piefed.ca klankin@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-01-12
#39 · Quote Reply

there's 4 of them, coincidence or conspiracy?

Thats just how they remembered their private key

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iuminou lemmy.dbzer0.com thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-09-12
#40 · Quote Reply

4

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#41 · Quote Reply

4

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iuminou lemmy.dbzer0.com thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-09-12
#42 · Quote Reply

4

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π•Έπ–”π–˜π–˜ infosec.pub 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub
Joined: 2023-06-04
#43 · Quote Reply

Thank is for the reminder.

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goatinspace feddit.org goatinspace@feddit.org
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#44 · Quote Reply

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marcos lemmy.world marcos@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#45 · Quote Reply

Well, the post is exactly about the 4, so... yes.

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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞 lemmy.world daychilde@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#46 · Quote Reply

https://i.imgur.com/ee11bKx.png

44 comments as I open the thread

https://i.imgur.com/bbJkJPj.png

4 options to disable

AUGH!!!! IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!

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Kojichan lemmy.world Kojichan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-05-10
#47 · Quote Reply

they were/are a shittier-than-average CA that got famously hacked in 2011 and less famously other times; later they bizarrely tried to trademark the name "Lets Encrypt" (after the real Lets Encrypt already existed). Since 2022 they're called "Xcitium" and "Sectigo".

I remember thay Lets Encrypt fiasco. Certainly made it hard to figure out the right LE cert when installing onto client websites.

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#48 · Quote Reply

44 comments as I open the thread 4 options to disable AUGH!!!! IT'S A CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!!!

Somebody just knocked on my door. I'm arming myself. Right now. πŸ”ͺ

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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞 lemmy.world daychilde@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#49 · Quote Reply

Somebody just knocked on my door. I'm arming myself. Right now. πŸ”ͺ

Are you arming your........... forearms? FOREarms???? hahahHAHahaHAHAAAAHAHahaaaaHAHAAa!!!1!1!111eleventy

;-)

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AFK BRB Chocolate (CA version) lemmy.ca AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-10
#50 · Quote Reply

I've never looked at this list before. Quite a large number of them. Is there any way for me to know which ones I shouldn't have enabled?

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printf("%s", name); piefed.blahaj.zone akunohana@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#51 · Quote Reply

I've never looked at this list before. Quite a large number of them. Is there any way for me to know which ones I shouldn't have enabled?

Without having any specialized knowledge on the subject, I'd say, start frequenting cyber security forums, follow youtubers who cover such topics and just keep yourself up to date on matters cyber. Or start researching the CAs one by one.

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