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gedaliyah
lemmy.world
gedaliyah@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-15 |
![]() Link: https://rfa.org/english/tibet/2026/10/23/golog-qinghai-tibetan-schools-closed-ethnic-unity-law/ Tibetan sources who spoke to Radio Free Asia linked the closures to the Chinese government’s education policies and its promotion of the Ethnic Unity and Progress Law, which took effect on July 1, 2026. They said the shutdowns could further limit opportunities for Tibetan children to learn their mother tongue and cultural traditions. |
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Eldritch
piefed.world
Eldritch@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-07-08 |
All by design. Its what imperialists do. It's what the US and Canada did to my people and family. Whether or not you trust RFA as a source. This is all part of a larger thread being reported on in wider credible coverage. And not just them as a group. Its part of a self stated literal policy position on the part of China. And as the saying goes. Believe victims/women. Whether the accusations are true or false. Tibet is the one most liable to suffer repercussions from them not China. Also if the United States was really going to try to discredit china. Considering all the bigots and racists involved in our government. Who don't give a shit about such groups here let alone elsewhere. Our government which is guilty of the same thing here. The last thing that they would care about or do is try to create a narrative around something like this. It's really disgusting to see "groups" hand wave stories like this away claiming such things. |
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chloroken
lemmy.ml
chloroken@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-11-15 |
All by design. Its what imperialists do. It's what the US and Canada did to my people and family. Whether or not you trust RFA as a source. This is all part of a larger thread being reported on in wider credible coverage. And not just them as a group. Its part of a self stated literal policy position on the part of China. And as the saying goes. Believe victims/women. Whether the accusations ar...
Calling China imperialist is akin to admitting you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. China hasn't dropped a bomb in fifty years. Look no further than the US if you're interested in imperialist ghouls, not socialist China. The idea you think the US wouldn't spin up these stories is laughable, that's what we do. Closing 3 schools in a country with 1.5 billion people is only news if youre desperate to disparage China because you're scared shitless of losing control over the world. Sinophobic fucks, you aren't going to win. |
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Eldritch
piefed.world
Eldritch@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-07-08 |
Calling China imperialist is akin to admitting you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. China hasn't dropped a bomb in fifty years. Look no further than the US if you're interested in imperialist ghouls, not socialist China. The idea you think the US wouldn't spin up these stories is laughable, that's what we do. Closing 3 schools in a country with 1.5 billion people is only news if...
Dropping a bomb is not a requirement for imperialism. Seriously go read the definition. |
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T00l_shed
lemmy.world
T00l_shed@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-27 |
Calling China imperialist is akin to admitting you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. China hasn't dropped a bomb in fifty years. Look no further than the US if you're interested in imperialist ghouls, not socialist China. The idea you think the US wouldn't spin up these stories is laughable, that's what we do. Closing 3 schools in a country with 1.5 billion people is only news if...
Holy shit you are so out of touch, you can be imperialist without dropping bombs, your ignorance is showing |
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Eldritch
piefed.world
Eldritch@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-07-08 |
Holy shit you are so out of touch, you can be imperialist without dropping bombs, your ignorance is showing
In their defense I don't know that they've realized that they have gone outside of their echo chamber. |
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T00l_shed
lemmy.world
T00l_shed@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-27 |
In their defense I don't know that they've realized that they have gone outside of their echo chamber.
Yeah.. that's a fair assessment |
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chloroken
lemmy.ml
chloroken@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-11-15 |
Holy shit you are so out of touch, you can be imperialist without dropping bombs, your ignorance is showing
I am far from ignorant on what constitutes imperialism. China is not imperialist. Their lack of dropping bombs is just one example of how obvious this is. Have you read Lenin's work on the subject? |
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chloroken
lemmy.ml
chloroken@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-11-15 |
China hasn't dropped a bomb in fifty years. Dropping a bomb is not a requirement for imperialism. Seriously go read the definition.
Nobody said it was, you're attempting to handwave an important piece of evidence because it is inconvenient for your narrative. The idea that China hasn't dropped a bomb in fifty years supports that they're not imperialist. But the biggest evidence is that they're, you know, a socialist state. Socialist states do not have the budget nor interest in imperialism. Feudal Tibet was liberated from its slavery. Xianjing was recovered after western color revolution attempts. Taiwan is allowed to exist and China has zero interest in taking it, given it's already a part of China. There is no imperialism coming out of China since the revolution. Western liberals coping with their own violence by being sinophobic never ceases to amaze me. |
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chloroken
lemmy.ml
chloroken@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-11-15 |
In their defense I don't know that they've realized that they have gone outside of their echo chamber.
I almost strictly post to .world. I guess you have to make shit up all the time to hang. |
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Eldritch
piefed.world
Eldritch@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-07-08 |
Nobody said it was, you're attempting to handwave an important piece of evidence because it is inconvenient for your narrative. The idea that China hasn't dropped a bomb in fifty years supports that they're not imperialist. But the biggest evidence is that they're, you know, a socialist state. Socialist states do not have the budget nor interest in imperialism. Feudal Tibet was liberated from i...
You do understand the person that I quoted that was basically implying that was you right? In nearly 300 years of strife. I don't think the state ever dropped bombs on my people or ancestors. That doesn't make what they did not imperialism. And even then. Even if China isn't directly dropping the bombs. They're supplying Russia who is. The state by its absolute Monopoly on violence and overwhelming Force doesn't even need to fire a shot sometimes. Let alone drop a single bomb. But it's still imperialism all the same. And you're twisting into pretzels trying to defend it is pretty disgusting. Imperialist often see themselves as liberators or uplifting people. It's rarely true. The state has always been the oppressor. And those who defended it tools. |
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Eldritch
piefed.world
Eldritch@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-07-08 |
I almost strictly post to .world. I guess you have to make shit up all the time to hang.
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SreudianFlip
sh.itjust.works
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-01-03 |
I am far from ignorant on what constitutes imperialism. China is not imperialist. Their lack of dropping bombs is just one example of how obvious this is. Have you read Lenin's work on the subject?
Just clarifying to readers, here: "imperialism" in m-l terms is strictly an extension of capitalist expansionism for economic extraction, and colonialism is an extension of that. Also: since China can do no wrong Tibet has always been a vassal state of the, wait, what am I saying? Tankies don't acknowledge that China and Russia are also settler states that have invaded their neighbours and continue to repress and dominate ethnicities and exploit the regional resources. |
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Eldritch
piefed.world
Eldritch@piefed.worldJoined: 2025-07-08 |
Just clarifying to readers, here: "imperialism" in m-l terms is strictly an extension of capitalist expansionism for economic extraction, and colonialism is an extension of that. Also: since China can do no wrong Tibet has always been a vassal state of the, wait, what am I saying? Tankies don't acknowledge that China and Russia are also settler states that have invaded their neighbours and cont...
Yep, Everyone is always the hero in their own story. Regardless of whether or not they actually are. |
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pilferjinx
piefed.social
pilferjinx@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-04 |
I actually like the idea of state atheism but the consequences of implementing such policies will always lead to suffering, repression, and cultural genocide. I've thought about this a bit and haven't come up with any kind of gentle solution. It seems to me that the core issue is the structural aspect of the religion that imposes its own laws on the group that conflicts with other hierarchies. |
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Viking_Hippie
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-04 |
I almost strictly post to .world. I guess you have to make shit up all the time to hang.
Fixed it for you |
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Viking_Hippie
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-04 |
I am far from ignorant on what constitutes imperialism. China is not imperialist. Their lack of dropping bombs is just one example of how obvious this is. Have you read Lenin's work on the subject?
Proving your own declaration wrong with your next sentence is a very tankie talent 😄
Of whether or not present day China is imperialist? Oddly enough, nobody has 😉 |
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Siegfried
lemmy.world
Siegfried@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Calling China imperialist is akin to admitting you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. China hasn't dropped a bomb in fifty years. Look no further than the US if you're interested in imperialist ghouls, not socialist China. The idea you think the US wouldn't spin up these stories is laughable, that's what we do. Closing 3 schools in a country with 1.5 billion people is only news if...
Free tibet |
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Lileath
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2023-06-28 |
Free tibet
Mao already did |
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Siegfried
lemmy.world
Siegfried@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Mao already did
Clown Edit, it's actually worst than that. Sometimes i feel like you people live in a sect. You are as bad as a religion. |
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T00l_shed
lemmy.world
T00l_shed@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-27 |
I am far from ignorant on what constitutes imperialism. China is not imperialist. Their lack of dropping bombs is just one example of how obvious this is. Have you read Lenin's work on the subject?
Here is the definition, im hoping it will help you out.
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Fizz
lemmy.nz
Fizz@lemmy.nzJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Tibet can't catch a break. They have suffered many natural disasters and CCP occupation is getting more and more invasive. |
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Riddick3001
lemmy.world
HowRu68@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-10 |
Yep, Everyone is always the hero in their own story. Regardless of whether or not they actually are.
Everyone is always the hero in their own story. So true. I vote for "Comment of the week" award. Also TIL: found this origin story link |
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pycorax
lemmy.world
pycorax@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-09 |
I actually like the idea of state atheism but the consequences of implementing such policies will always lead to suffering, repression, and cultural genocide. I've thought about this a bit and haven't come up with any kind of gentle solution. It seems to me that the core issue is the structural aspect of the religion that imposes its own laws on the group that conflicts with other hierarchies.
I think secularism is the closest you can get to something like that. People have a right to believe what they want even if that can be harmful. The most we can do is to make sure that those harmful beliefs don't affect others. |
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chloroken
lemmy.ml
chloroken@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-11-15 |
You do understand the person that I quoted that was basically implying that was you right? In nearly 300 years of strife. I don't think the state ever dropped bombs on my people or ancestors. That doesn't make what they did not imperialism. And even then. Even if China isn't directly dropping the bombs. They're supplying Russia who is. The state by its absolute Monopoly on violence and overwhel...
Ahistorical drivel. China is not imperialist, and if you can't see that, I ask that you study Lenin's titular book on the topic. There is no pretzels twisting, I can happily debunk whatever claim you make about China being imperialist with ease. The state is not an enemy, only idealists think this way. The state, when governed by the proletariat, is good. |
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chloroken
lemmy.ml
chloroken@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-11-15 |
Just clarifying to readers, here: "imperialism" in m-l terms is strictly an extension of capitalist expansionism for economic extraction, and colonialism is an extension of that. Also: since China can do no wrong Tibet has always been a vassal state of the, wait, what am I saying? Tankies don't acknowledge that China and Russia are also settler states that have invaded their neighbours and cont...
Tibet was liberated from a feudal mode of production that used slavery. Liberation is not imperialism. You can say China is repressing whomever you want with no evidence, and I can handwave such absurd claims with no evidence. You know you're in trouble when even Wikipedia is telling you there is no genocide in Xinjiang and that Tibet was full of slavers and feudalists. |
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chloroken
lemmy.ml
chloroken@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-11-15 |
The only place worse than .world is piefed. Both are completely full of ignorant liberals. Piefed is just extra cringe. |
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chloroken
lemmy.ml
chloroken@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-11-15 |
Free tibet
Tibet was a slave society with literal royalty and serfs. You want to go back to that? Kind of snitching on yourself as a reactionary loser. |
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Siegfried
lemmy.world
Siegfried@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Tibet was a slave society with literal royalty and serfs. You want to go back to that? Kind of snitching on yourself as a reactionary loser.
Free tibet now, you reactionary loser. |
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Radical_Socialist_t00t
lemmy.ca
Radical_Socialist_t00t@lemmy.caJoined: 2026-06-29 |
Calling China imperialist is akin to admitting you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. China hasn't dropped a bomb in fifty years. Look no further than the US if you're interested in imperialist ghouls, not socialist China. The idea you think the US wouldn't spin up these stories is laughable, that's what we do. Closing 3 schools in a country with 1.5 billion people is only news if...
China has been using economic warfare for those 50 years |
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pilferjinx
piefed.social
pilferjinx@piefed.socialJoined: 2025-08-04 |
I think secularism is the closest you can get to something like that. People have a right to believe what they want even if that can be harmful. The most we can do is to make sure that those harmful beliefs don't affect others.
I think you're probably right. It's just such a headache to deal with religious nationalism always inching toward power and capturing offices. |
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chloroken
lemmy.ml
chloroken@lemmy.ml Joined: 2024-11-15 |
China has been using economic warfare for those 50 years
China, since the revolution, has been lifting up the proletariat of various nations and investing in infrastructure and technologies. There is no debt trapping, those stories have been thoroughly debunked by world economists for decades now. The United States, on the other hand, has been using economic warfare since inception. |
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pycorax
lemmy.world
pycorax@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-09 |
I think you're probably right. It's just such a headache to deal with religious nationalism always inching toward power and capturing offices.
The right thing is never the easiest option unfortunately. |
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✦ TheMarkedArchive ✦
scribe.disroot.org
markjamestwn1301@scribe.disroot.orgJoined: 2026-05-05 |
Ahistorical drivel. China is not imperialist, and if you can't see that, I ask that you study Lenin's titular book on the topic. There is no pretzels twisting, I can happily debunk whatever claim you make about China being imperialist with ease. The state is not an enemy, only idealists think this way. The state, when governed by the proletariat, is good.
Okay, even if I grant you that, does everyone in the Chinese government have to sell their labour-power for a wage, aka the definition of a proletariat? |
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DupaCycki
lemmy.world
DupaCycki@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-08-17 |
Tibet can't catch a break. They have suffered many natural disasters and CCP occupation is getting more and more invasive.
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Fizz
lemmy.nz
Fizz@lemmy.nzJoined: 2023-06-12 |
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This response is fucking disgusting |
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Lileath
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Lileath@lemmy.blahaj.zoneJoined: 2023-06-28 |
Clown Edit, it's actually worst than that. Sometimes i feel like you people live in a sect. You are as bad as a religion.
So to you the slavery and oppression is preferable to living under china? |
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kiagam
lemmy.world
kiagam@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-23 |
Wow, a whole 3 schools in a region of almost 4 million people? Comparing with a similar sized state in my country:
Closing 3 is almost a cultural genocide omg |
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prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
Wow, a whole 3 schools in a region of almost 4 million people? Comparing with a similar sized state in my country: 1412 pre schools 1611 basic education, first 5 years 800 basic education, last 4 years 337 high schools Closing 3 is almost a cultural genocide omg
Seems slightly disingenuous to use stats from your country and pretend that it means anything here. If anyone has these stats about China and Tibet, I'd be really interested in seeing them. Otherwise it's pointless. |
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prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
Calling China imperialist is akin to admitting you have no clue what the fuck you're talking about. China hasn't dropped a bomb in fifty years. Look no further than the US if you're interested in imperialist ghouls, not socialist China. The idea you think the US wouldn't spin up these stories is laughable, that's what we do. Closing 3 schools in a country with 1.5 billion people is only news if...
Glances sideways at Africa... |
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prole
lemmy.blahaj.zone
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-06-11 |
I am far from ignorant on what constitutes imperialism. China is not imperialist. Their lack of dropping bombs is just one example of how obvious this is. Have you read Lenin's work on the subject?
Belt and Road Initiative is absolutely an imperialist debt trap. |
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thethrilloftime69
feddit.online
thethrilloftime69@feddit.online Joined: 2026-02-12 |
All by design. Its what imperialists do. It's what the US and Canada did to my people and family. Whether or not you trust RFA as a source. This is all part of a larger thread being reported on in wider credible coverage. And not just them as a group. Its part of a self stated literal policy position on the part of China. And as the saying goes. Believe victims/women. Whether the accusations ar...
Rfa is a known CIA asset. It exists specifically for the US to discredit China. So tbh I would need another source before I would consider anything written here to be anything other than propaganda. |
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CriticalThought
lemmy.world
CriticalThought@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-07-17 |
Tibet was liberated from a feudal mode of production that used slavery. Liberation is not imperialism. You can say China is repressing whomever you want with no evidence, and I can handwave such absurd claims with no evidence. You know you're in trouble when even Wikipedia is telling you there is no genocide in Xinjiang and that Tibet was full of slavers and feudalists.
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PlaidBaron
lemmy.world
PlaidBaron@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-30 |
Wow, a whole 3 schools in a region of almost 4 million people? Comparing with a similar sized state in my country: 1412 pre schools 1611 basic education, first 5 years 800 basic education, last 4 years 337 high schools Closing 3 is almost a cultural genocide omg
Ok, tankie. |
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PlaidBaron
lemmy.world
PlaidBaron@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-30 |
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'Have you seen what America looked like before the Europeans arrived? It was a shithole! If 'Native American Culture' amounts to sitting around doing nothing I think theyre legitimately better off under white Europeans'. This is what you sound like right now. |
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PlaidBaron
lemmy.world
PlaidBaron@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-30 |
ITT: Tankies defending cultural genocide. |
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ulterno
programming.dev
ulterno@programming.dev Joined: 2024-11-12 |
Wow, a whole 3 schools in a region of almost 4 million people? Comparing with a similar sized state in my country: 1412 pre schools 1611 basic education, first 5 years 800 basic education, last 4 years 337 high schools Closing 3 is almost a cultural genocide omg
Trying to evade the main point over here that: |
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kiagam
lemmy.world
kiagam@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-23 |
Seems slightly disingenuous to use stats from your country and pretend that it means anything here. If anyone has these stats about China and Tibet, I'd be really interested in seeing them. Otherwise it's pointless.
Official chinese figures report it at 2200 schools of all levels. I didn't post that because the first reply would be "well you can't trust the official figures, the chinese government is clearly lying!“ And really, comparing similarly sized places around the world is not valid? You really need to visit China, it is as good or better than any other place I've been. We know their literacy rate is good, school math and science levels are among the highest, etc. Why wouldn't it be comparable to other places? |
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kiagam
lemmy.world
kiagam@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-23 |
Trying to evade the main point over here that: China (country A) is closing schools in Tibet (country B) after a Military annexation.
You know that annexation happened almost 70 years ago right? You think the numbers of schools in a region that had 97% illiteracy rate and is now 28% remained the same all this time, and they are now, 70 years later, closing down 3 to oppress them? (Out of 2200 btw) |
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ulterno
programming.dev
ulterno@programming.dev Joined: 2024-11-12 |
You know that annexation happened almost 70 years ago right? You think the numbers of schools in a region that had 97% illiteracy rate and is now 28% remained the same all this time, and they are now, 70 years later, closing down 3 to oppress them? (Out of 2200 btw)
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Siegfried
lemmy.world
Siegfried@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-01 |
So to you the slavery and oppression is preferable to living under china?
Take your time to answer that question yourself |
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