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dacalla
lemmy.zip
dacalla@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-10-03 |
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Cellery
quokk.au
Cellery@quokk.au Joined: 2026-09-30 |
Nice source. Very data. |
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CaptDust
sh.itjust.works
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Fun fact, that belt from OK to WV represents 8 of the bottom 10 states with the lowest education. |
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Donjuanme
lemmy.world
Donjuanme@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
Nobody accused the best nor brightest of doing it, though a shocking number of people in the better and brighter states will vote for the tangerine maroon |
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hal_baleigh
piefed.social
hal_baleigh@piefed.social Joined: 2026-10-02 |
So all the shit states. |
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zoloftt
lemmy.world
zoloftt@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-06-04 |
Nice source. Very data.
YEAH, BASED ON WHAT? 2024? |
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Chozo
fedia.io
Chozo@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-04 |
I don't see anything worth keeping, do you? |
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ceenote
lemmy.world
ceenote@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-16 |
The states that are red aren't surprising. What's surprising is some of the states that aren't red. Particularly Kansas, Nebraska, and South Carolina. |
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Hello_there
fedia.io
Hello_there@fedia.io Joined: 2024-03-20 |
12 states to avoid traveling to |
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charade_you_are
sh.itjust.works
charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-07-07 |
12 states to avoid traveling to
Which absolutely sucks because WV and WY are a couple of the best looking states(edit: nature wise, not people wise) |
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AeronMelon
lemmy.world
aeronmelon@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-12-26 |
Stay strong, Montana. |
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wjrii
lemmy.world
wjrii@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-15 |
The states that are red aren't surprising. What's surprising is some of the states that aren't red. Particularly Kansas, Nebraska, and South Carolina.
Sixty percent is quite the bar. That said, it’s important to remember that a “plus eleven” advantage means there’s still 4 sane voters for every 5 nut jobs, and even 40/60 means 2 for every 3. The inverse is true in deep blue states of course, making it somehow even crueler and more lacking in empathy that Trump collectively punishes blue states. A persistent structural advantage is not the same as a population of actual humans being a monolith. |
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Today
lemmy.world
Today@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
People always think Texas is super red, but we're really something like 54% of voters in presidential elections. The districts are so fucking gerrymandered it keeps everything outside of the bigger cities looking red. |
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Hegar
fedia.io
Hegar@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-06-26 |
It's worth remembering that the northern cluster includes 3 of bottom 5 states by population - this represents even fewer people than ”12 states" implies. |
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tgcoldrockn
lemmy.world
tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-07-07 |
The states that are red aren't surprising. What's surprising is some of the states that aren't red. Particularly Kansas, Nebraska, and South Carolina.
Columbia and Charleston must have done some heavy lifting in SC. |
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TheDemonBuer
lemmy.world
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
Fun fact, that belt from OK to WV represents 8 of the bottom 10 states with the lowest education.
We need to make education a nationwide priority. Our democracy can't afford to have such disparity. And it's not just disparity in education, it's a lot of things. People in these areas had largely been ignored or forgotten about. Trump looked at those people and saw an opportunity. Democrats didn't look at those people at all. |
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ieightpi
lemmy.world
ieightpi@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-26 |
Fun fact, that belt from OK to WV represents 8 of the bottom 10 states with the lowest education.
Not surprising....what are the other two? |
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ieightpi
lemmy.world
ieightpi@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-26 |
Sixty percent is quite the bar. That said, it’s important to remember that a “plus eleven” advantage means there’s still 4 sane voters for every 5 nut jobs, and even 40/60 means 2 for every 3. The inverse is true in deep blue states of course, making it somehow even crueler and more lacking in empathy that Trump collectively punishes blue states. A persistent structural advantage is not the sam...
Well said |
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snooggums
piefed.world
snooggums@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-08 |
We need to make education a nationwide priority. Our democracy can't afford to have such disparity. And it's not just disparity in education, it's a lot of things. People in these areas had largely been ignored or forgotten about. Trump looked at those people and saw an opportunity. Democrats didn't look at those people at all.
We did do that, which is why the Dept of Education that the current administration is destroying exists. Regressives keep tearing everything down and we have to build up again. We need a cultural shift to value education, oppose violenve, and actually care about fellow humans we haven't personally met before the country will have lasting positive change. |
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snooggums
piefed.world
snooggums@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-08 |
So all the shit states.
Most of the shit states. |
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TheDemonBuer
lemmy.world
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
We did do that, which is why the Dept of Education that the current administration is destroying exists. Regressives keep tearing everything down and we have to build up again. We need a cultural shift to value education, oppose violenve, and actually care about fellow humans we haven't personally met before the country will have lasting positive change.
What if that cultural shift never happens in the deep red states? What then? |
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FatVegan
leminal.space
FatVegan@leminal.space Joined: 2025-11-05 |
So all the shit states.
I live the uneducated |
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NotSteve_
lemmy.ca
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-07-16 |
12 states to avoid traveling to
I don't get Louisiana being red at all. I guess New Orleans is kind of a bubble but from a foreign perspective, it seems like such a beautiful fun city that I would have guessed would lean left |
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snorlax
sh.itjust.works
snorlax@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-06-08 |
In which year? |
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DokPsy
lemmy.world
DokPsy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-18 |
We need a cultural shift to value education, oppose violenve, and actually care about fellow humans we haven't personally met before the country will have lasting positive change. What if that cultural shift never happens in the deep red states? What then?
..... Then there won't be a lasting positive change? That's how if statements work |
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TheDemonBuer
lemmy.world
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
..... Then there won't be a lasting positive change? That's how if statements work
What I mean is without lasting positive change, what? If large swaths of the country are a lost cause that'll just keep dragging the rest of the country down, what's to be done? |
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criscodisco
lemmy.world
criscodisco@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-09 |
People always think Texas is super red, but we're really something like 54% of voters in presidential elections. The districts are so fucking gerrymandered it keeps everything outside of the bigger cities looking red.
You can say this about nearly every red state. |
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nastronot
lemmy.zip
nastronot@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-10-15 |
I don't get Louisiana being red at all. I guess New Orleans is kind of a bubble but from a foreign perspective, it seems like such a beautiful fun city that I would have guessed would lean left
The city does. Travel up Louisiana and it’s just like the rest of the south, but with hot sauce and boudin. |
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nastronot
lemmy.zip
nastronot@lemmy.zip Joined: 2026-10-15 |
I can see my house from here. |
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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞
lemmy.world
daychilde@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-13 |
What I mean is without lasting positive change, what? If large swaths of the country are a lost cause that'll just keep dragging the rest of the country down, what's to be done?
We'd still be better off than ALL the country being ignorant. |
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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞
lemmy.world
daychilde@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-13 |
Sixty percent is quite the bar. That said, it’s important to remember that a “plus eleven” advantage means there’s still 4 sane voters for every 5 nut jobs, and even 40/60 means 2 for every 3. The inverse is true in deep blue states of course, making it somehow even crueler and more lacking in empathy that Trump collectively punishes blue states. A persistent structural advantage is not the sam...
This is also why the "red/blue states" thing irritates me. People write off "red" states as useless. And sure, in one sense, maybe. But states can change, and they are, at worst, "currently red majority states". Not "red states". |
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arak
lemmy.today
arak@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-11-09 |
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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞
lemmy.world
daychilde@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-13 |
I don't get Louisiana being red at all. I guess New Orleans is kind of a bubble but from a foreign perspective, it seems like such a beautiful fun city that I would have guessed would lean left
Most urban is blue - or at least much bluer than the surrounding rural. But even there, no urban is all blue and no rural is all red. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states#Purple_states
There are many ways to visualize on a smaller scale that "red/blue majority states". |
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DokPsy
lemmy.world
DokPsy@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-18 |
What I mean is without lasting positive change, what? If large swaths of the country are a lost cause that'll just keep dragging the rest of the country down, what's to be done?
I mean, it's pretty obvious what happens, right? We die as a country, civilization, and ultimately a species if we can't find a balance |
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Pratai
piefed.ca
Pratai@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-02-12 |
I don't see anything worth keeping, do you?
When you have a moment, get an adult to explain you why what you said is wrong. Once you understand it, ask yourself if it was what you meant to say. |
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bagsy
lemmy.world
bagsy@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-09-18 |
What a stupid system where land is more important than people. |
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| protist Member Joined: 2026-03-10 |
I don't get Louisiana being red at all. I guess New Orleans is kind of a bubble but from a foreign perspective, it seems like such a beautiful fun city that I would have guessed would lean left
New Orleans was one of the largest cities in the US in the 1800s, which is partially why it's such an established and famous city, but now it only has 360K people (after peaking at 630K in 1960). Louisiana as a whole has 4.6 million, so NOLA is less than 8% of the state |
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Chozo
fedia.io
Chozo@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-04 |
When you have a moment, get an adult to explain you why what you said is wrong. Once you understand it, ask yourself if it was what you meant to say.
What? |
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Pratai
piefed.ca
Pratai@piefed.ca Joined: 2026-02-12 |
What?
I said: When you have a moment, get an adult to explain you why what you said is wrong. Once you understand it, ask yourself if it was what you meant to say. |
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Chozo
fedia.io
Chozo@fedia.ioJoined: 2024-03-04 |
I said: When you have a moment, get an adult to explain you why what you said is wrong. Once you understand it, ask yourself if it was what you meant to say.
Okay. |
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humanspiral
lemmy.ca
humanspiral@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-10-23 |
Sixty percent is quite the bar. That said, it’s important to remember that a “plus eleven” advantage means there’s still 4 sane voters for every 5 nut jobs, and even 40/60 means 2 for every 3. The inverse is true in deep blue states of course, making it somehow even crueler and more lacking in empathy that Trump collectively punishes blue states. A persistent structural advantage is not the sam...
60% is +20 |
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TheDemonBuer
lemmy.world
TheDemonBuer@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-12 |
I mean, it's pretty obvious what happens, right? We die as a country, civilization, and ultimately a species if we can't find a balance
I agree. |
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faythofdragons
piefed.social
faythofdragons@piefed.social Joined: 2025-06-06 |
Fun fact, that belt from OK to WV represents 8 of the bottom 10 states with the lowest education.
Anecdote time! I grew up in Oklahoma, and when we were learning about addition and subtraction, I asked what would happen if I subtracted a bigger number from a smaller number. Instead of being reasonable and telling me I'd learn about that later, my teacher told me that was a stupid question because you obviously can't have less than zero, and the class laughed at me. A huge part of Oklahoma history was that it's foundation was literally going back on the promise of Indian Land after the Trail of Tears, and they'd celebrate it's anniversary by getting the school kids to dress up and LARP stealing territory by taking a sack lunch to the playground and staking your claim. I couldn't get out of that state fast enough. |
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Malica
lemmy.zip
Malica@lemmy.zipJoined: 2026-08-27 |
I'm surprised Iowa and Montana aren't on the list too. Indiana too. |
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KindnessisPunk
piefed.ca
KindnessisPunk@piefed.caJoined: 2025-08-09 |
I live the uneducated
Love them, even. |
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CuddlyCassowary
lemmy.world
CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
It's worth remembering that the northern cluster includes 3 of bottom 5 states by population - this represents even fewer people than ”12 states" implies.
I think WY has about 37 people. |
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shalafi
lemmy.world
shalafi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-22 |
Anecdote time! I grew up in Oklahoma, and when we were learning about addition and subtraction, I asked what would happen if I subtracted a bigger number from a smaller number. Instead of being reasonable and telling me I'd learn about that later, my teacher told me that was a stupid question because you obviously can't have less than zero, and the class laughed at me. A huge part of Oklahoma h...
Grew up in Tulsa, left at 30. It's very different from the rest of the state yet still votes red for state and federal offices. Then they go and elect their first black mayor, a democrat. Weird town. Very progressive in some ways but it's odd to have a large metro area so red. OKC seems to do much of the same, but that's the toilet at the end of the turnpike. :) |
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shalafi
lemmy.world
shalafi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-22 |
We need to make education a nationwide priority. Our democracy can't afford to have such disparity. And it's not just disparity in education, it's a lot of things. People in these areas had largely been ignored or forgotten about. Trump looked at those people and saw an opportunity. Democrats didn't look at those people at all.
Can't find the original article any longer (have a PDF if anyone wants it), but David Wong's "How Half of America Lost Its Fucking Mind" is the best explanation for Trump I have ever seen, bar none. Here's a copy: People can scream whatever simplistic single-word answer they want: Racists! Stupid! But that essay really fucking nails it and I think it's important. |
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shalafi
lemmy.world
shalafi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-22 |
People always think Texas is super red, but we're really something like 54% of voters in presidential elections. The districts are so fucking gerrymandered it keeps everything outside of the bigger cities looking red.
Florida as well. I'm tired of getting beat up on social media when the news out of Tennessee is so much fucking worse. It's like people don't actually read the news and get all their opinions from social media. What a poisonous way to learn about the world. |
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shalafi
lemmy.world
shalafi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-22 |
You can say this about nearly every red state.
Yep. You have to drill down to the county level so see truly wild disparities. Fuck me, even Mississippi has blue counties. |
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shalafi
lemmy.world
shalafi@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-22 |
This is also why the "red/blue states" thing irritates me. People write off "red" states as useless. And sure, in one sense, maybe. But states can change, and they are, at worst, "currently red majority states". Not "red states".
Check the maps in this article. |
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