Why would anybody be against intellisense? Even for those use cases, it's helpful. (Excluding the code completion from LLMs included ofc)

There are no objects in a pure functional language. No mutable types. Could you give an example of what you mean please?

I present to you this multilingual code based. It has now 5 different languages in it

Nah, no language is "perfect" once you've used it enough
I write python for money and elixir in my own time. I borrow implementation approaches from functional when it's appropriate. Avoid using complex classes, especially if the encapsulate state. But they have their uses and people should chose which works best for their use case

I wouldn't write cli tools in elixir for example.

What makes you think C++ is awful?

That's how it's always supposed to be. Tabs for indent, spaces for alignment. Languages that do not support this are trash

No classes, no mutable types, pure functions where possible (I/O functions exist). I like elixir myself. I use for loops or recursion depending on which is suitable and most understandable.
I like the pipe operator because I've gotten used to chaining inputs and outputs like that from Linux CLI.

I prefer functional programming, but also use OO, each their own, but i prefer functional and find it better to write and read

Theres nuance.

There's also an apostrophe. Or not.

No need to go to reddit, there's enough trolls here saying Firefox is trash and to use brave instead.

Y'know like, the guys saying accessibility features are trash no one wants to use because they use local AI models.

Oh, right, there is no mutability. There is just some context you chain from one function to another, that gets abstracting exactly as changes into some existing state.

Oh, and all that running in a mutability place-oriented imperative machine.

Won't happen unfortunately. Unless you want to run a 1U with 6 GPU, requiring a custom water-cooling system, and which sips like 10kW/h of electricity while idle. It's all integrated hardware born to be trash. The ram, cpu and GPU won't be usable on consumer hardware without hard modifications.

generally agree, probably most devs nowadays do. otherwise there wouldn't be stuff like @data in lombok.

i think the word 'dogma' is pretty good: it takes a good idea (encapsulation) too far. i am not old enough to have been coding when OOP was the new and hot stuff. but i imagine it comes from the idea that it is a good idea to protect private members where needed.

public class Account {
  private Integer balance;
  public Integer getBalance() {
    return new Integer(balance);
  }
}

that is not such a bad idea to protect balance from stupid sideeffects.

  public String getName() {
    return name;
  }

is a nothing burger, as it returns the same reference and does not protect from accidental sideeffects.

Heey Godot for the win! And yeah no gdscript please!

C# is like a script language wanting to be a C++ contender (let's switch everything around to show how different we are, sigh).

They do have one thing right though, true & false aren't True or TRUE etc. But man all the new() whatever all the time 😓.

public int A {get; private set;} = 0;

Beautiful eh 😐

Choosing cattle over pets is often a mistake. Yes, even cloud-based cattle.

I remember on Reddit several years ago I said that automatic bitlocker is the curse of installing W11 on a laptop.

I got down voted so hard. One comment even said you should be thankful because encrypting by default should be the norm.

But yet if I add any thunderbolt device to my windows before I boot it, it requires me to input my 25 character bitlocker key... that's hosted online within my Microsoft account.

Bitlocker enabling by default without user input is horrible. Hosting the keys online is also horrible. It could be so easy to socal engineer into your Microsoft account.

agree to disagree

Not sure tbh, but they exist 😅

Everyone who indents code with 4 spaces also eats children.

Pretty much hit the nail on the head to be honest

That sounds useful. Id like to find a good place that is for optimizing use of this shit (esp locally) while not going full "hey check out my slop project", or people going "the ai are our gods / will cause an apocalypse"

Its like money laundering, but for copyright

Linus doesn't want you and your kind fave down in a gutter. Stop pretending this is about a mere disagreement in harmless beliefs.

Like crlf/lf. But for all formatting.

Sure. Toooootally the same thing. Now the server will have to save a copy of your formatting preferences, checkout the project at point t-1, checkout the project at t, format it, create a diff, and present that to you. Now when you leave a comment on line x, it might be line y for another person.

Or make it worse, someone introduces malicious code with UTF-8, or switches around parameters, or adds pragma comments that fundamentally change your code, but your formatter happily fixes that for you in the preview so you are oblivious.

Or you're hosting this server and someone makes a change that completely reformats the entire codebase, but you see absolutely nothing of it because the preview diff only shows "relevant" changes.

All fine by you👌

X11 is feature complete? 🤣🤣🤣 wew lad.

Yep, let's stop this here. My sides, I swear.

Hell yeah

I prefer to use any Lisp rather than no Lisp. I enjoy Common Lisp and Elisp, and I sometimes teach using Racket.

It’s not as mature, feature rich and battle tested as xorg is. In a couple years maybe it’s as good, but as of right now, there are some incompatibility and missing feature issues.

You seriously think PHP beats TS?

Don't most people who use it try to avoid like 90% of the core language features

Found the differences and am intrigued.
Now I'd just need to unlearn some muscle memory ;)

The US, at least, still has its old fashioned POTS lines. Also, government and medical fields still heavily rely on fax for "secure" communication.

I use VIM keybindings in intellij, and have done so for 10 years. There is no reason for me to be quicker or more productive than anyone without VIM. It's just a preference.

Okay, so... Method chaining, and no refs being passed as params, and structs.

I dislike pure functional programing (not the same as pure functions) because of the boilerplate you need. Want to add a cache? Add a state monad throught the whole pipeline.

Want to have readable code in a six month? Forget it, because you're gonna write in point free style, compositiona without naming inputs and outputs, so that the next time you visit this place, you'll have to check every function for them.

AKA - We have Monads at home…

Thats not the linq purpose. Though it is technically a monad, its purpose is not hiding side effects or managing an async flow, or managing nulls/errors, but query, filter, map data from an enumerable.

If you use Linq as a replacement for Option, Either or Maybe you're doing something wrong.

Email does not matter as much as people think it does. People like to suggest that others should switch to Proton or Tuta. There are some benefits to doing that. For example, Proton and Tuta are zero knowledge encrypted. Tuta is completely powered by renewables, and it supports contacts integration on Android.

However, some people say that those services give you real email privacy. They don't. Proton uses the same protocol that everyone else is using. Tuta sort of does their own thing, but it is interoperable with all email services. Unless you are emailing people within the same service, it is not end to end encrypted. You could use PGP. I think most people would not open your email or respond to you, though.

In my mind, email is old school and a fairly low priority for privacy enthusiasts. You are welcome to switch to those services. And like I said, there are some benefits. If you think, however, that using those services is going to give you real email privacy, you are unfortunately mistaken.

Would you consider it a lisp if there are no macro support or lazy evaluation?

Let me put it this way...

I care exactly as much about the feature set you need as you care about the ones I need.

But yes, let's stop here before we start talking about PRODUCTIVITY features rather than "My triple monitor setup doesn't maximize all of my 4k resolution support and it throws off the vibes of my RGB fans" features.

About ten years ago I said that aircraft carriers are becoming increasingly irrelevant as missile and drone technology proliferates and develop.

Unit tests are overrated to the point of being harmful. They have their place, but that place is certainly not "the base of the testing pyramid". They are useful for a very specific type of "units" - and using them anywhere else just messes things up.

Two different things. What makes a programming language a Lisp is also neither of those two things. For me homoiconicity is one of the main features of a Lisp.

Back in the day, it let me generate GIFs programmatically from the back end, and that was fucking magic compared to doing it in C. That was in 98. I didn't really follow afterwards as I'm more of a backend guy.

True, 2 spaces is better :3

Using spaces at all is indefensible. We have a universal control character specifically to indent code however you want, clientside. I don't care if your variables line up perfectly when they don't fit on one line. Stop trying to do ASCII art with semantic syntax.

So any untyped S-expression grammar would be acceptable?

I've come around to this position after seeing the mess people make.

I just got a new job where I contribute to a fancy open source database. They do have unit tests. Barely. Most things are tested in SQL though. You have to build/link the whole thing to run the tests. But lots of things are plugins so it's fast enough.

If you can get away with it, this is better.

Local models are only months behind. The primary utility of comically large networks is a wider search space for the tiny fraction of weights that really matter.

I agree with you but that doesn't change the fact datacentre hardware is not consumer friendly like it was in the past

What are you trying to ask? It kind of feels like arguing with someone who’s trying to just find one mistake to say “aha!”.

Was it?

Not the point - this isn't about secondhand servers, it's about RAM being artificially scarce. Possibly as a deliberate measure to make cloud services sound less wasteful. If a 3090 with 32 GB was only a thousand bucks then OpenAI's revenue would be even worse.

I am just trying to get a feel for the boundaries of what you consider a Lisp. (Started by trying to narrow by named lisps, then common major dividing features and am now trying to use broader syntax categories).

So no argument, just honest curiosity.