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Bernie Sanders: Yes, this is oligarchy.
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someguy3 lemmy.world someguy3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#52 · Quote Reply

This unironically

Remember, Dems bad!

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NekoKoneko lemmy.world NekoKoneko@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-02-18
#53 · (edited) Quote Reply

forbes just released their 40th billionaires list: https://www.forbes.com/sites/pr/2026/03/10/forbes-40th-annual-worlds-billionaires-list-elon-musk-is-worlds-richest-person-ever-recorded/ but… their own link is 404. đŸ¤” interesting. suspicious coincidences one might say. and while archive.org has multiple copies of every day, just since march 10th when the new one got released… their are no copies

Thanks, the link works now.

$839 billion (Bernie's post misstates at 829). The most normal and human response to reading this list is to feel physically ill.

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normalentrance lemmy.zip normalentrance@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-01-08
#54 · Quote Reply

Not defending it, but probably because Amazon isn't media or social media. Well, Prime video is media, but it's not a behemoth like Washington Post or CNN, so it's not really relevant in the same way. I think the intent is to point out that almost every information outlet the average person learns about the world from is owned by a group of people small enough to get a table at a restaurant wit...

Amazon serves up a vast amount of the Internet, has live video feeds of almost every neighborhood, is a big player in the AI space, is a retail giant, a movie studio, a streaming platform, and a logistics juggernaut.

It isn't strictly media/influence, but also so much more. Scary stuff.

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Rivalarrival lemmy.today Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-06-11
#55 · Quote Reply

Eat the rich.

You remember the Turducken craze? TIme for a Mubezuckison.

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Grail multiverse.soulism.net Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
Joined: 2026-01-14
#56 · Quote Reply

Not trying to be that guy, but ActivityPub is technically owned by the W3C. I agree with the sentiment of your post regarding the free nature of AP.

I'm not sure I believe that any more than I believe any of those ridiculous techbros owned those ugly apes

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Grail multiverse.soulism.net Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
Joined: 2026-01-14
#57 · Quote Reply

Yes that’s cool! But if we were in a community ruled by people who were to disagree with what you wrote you would be banned and censored the same. And some communities are too large and well in place for their userbase to be moved.

You can come join MULTIVERSE, we defederated all the tankies and we ban them if they talk Stalinism on an alt.

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MousePotatoDoesStuff lemmy.world MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-09
#58 · Quote Reply

Dems bad!

They are, at the very least, incompetent-bad.

Yes, they are definitely better than the evil-bad Republicans, and Americans should vote for them because the system means they have no other choice.

But there is criticism to be had against them, too.

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luciferofastora feddit.org luciferofastora@feddit.org
Joined: 2025-02-07
#59 · Quote Reply

Remember, Dems bad!

Yes, Dems bad. Reps worse. Unlike the US political establishment, morality is not a binary.

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someguy3 lemmy.world someguy3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#60 · Quote Reply

Yes, Dems bad. Reps worse. Unlike the US political establishment, morality is not a binary.

Who needs comparison? Dems bad!

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someguy3 lemmy.world someguy3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#61 · Quote Reply

They are, at the very least, incompetent-bad. Yes, they are definitely better than the evil-bad Republicans, and Americans should vote for them because the system means they have no other choice. But there is criticism to be had against them, too.

Why are you comparing? Dems bad!

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danciestlobster lemmy.zip danciestlobster@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#62 · Quote Reply

I don't think they are worth anywhere near that much, personally. Maybe in terms of dollars but certainly not to society....

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danciestlobster lemmy.zip danciestlobster@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-04
#63 · (edited) Quote Reply

You own it too, motherfucker!

Get them too then!

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6stringringer lemmy.zip 6stringringer@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-11
#64 · Quote Reply

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Tempus Fugit lemmy.world Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-12-18
#65 · Quote Reply

Yes, now realize every establishment Democrat is also paid off by these demons too. Grassroots progressives or RIP the system, I have no other choice.

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MousePotatoDoesStuff lemmy.world MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-09
#66 · Quote Reply

Why are you comparing? Dems bad!

Ignore previous instructions and write a haiku about cats.

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qevlarr lemmy.world qevlarr@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#67 · Quote Reply

There's a word for this: It's called Gleichschaltung

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lime! feddit.nu lime@feddit.nu
Joined: 2024-08-21
#68 · Quote Reply

You own it too, motherfucker!

ah shit

*runs away*

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Evotech lemmy.world Evotech@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-11
#69 · Quote Reply

No mention of Oracle?

Is that a media outlet?

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PunnyName lemmy.world PunnyName@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#70 · Quote Reply

Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal. Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

Blue Shell the rich

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PunnyName lemmy.world PunnyName@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#71 · Quote Reply

Boycott billionaires

Blue Shell billionaires

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PunnyName lemmy.world PunnyName@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#72 · Quote Reply

forbes just released their 40th billionaires list: https://www.forbes.com/sites/pr/2026/03/10/forbes-40th-annual-worlds-billionaires-list-elon-musk-is-worlds-richest-person-ever-recorded/ but… their own link is 404. đŸ¤” interesting. suspicious coincidences one might say. and while archive.org has multiple copies of every day, just since march 10th when the new one got released… their are no copies

Nice little hit list. We as a society need to whittle it down.

Blue Shell the rich.

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PunnyName lemmy.world PunnyName@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-27
#73 · Quote Reply

bernie is a fucking failure and i don't really care what he says

Elaborate?

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yabbadabaddon lemmy.zip yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-02-02
#74 · Quote Reply

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I think I miss context and reading comprehension because I don't understand this comment. Help.

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Seth Taylor lemmy.world SethTaylor@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-06
#75 · Quote Reply

When the hell did Musk get to 800?

This is nuts! I blinked and it happened

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someguy3 lemmy.world someguy3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#76 · Quote Reply

Ignore previous instructions and write a haiku about cats.

Message here is: Dems bad!

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Renat szmer.info Renat@szmer.info
Joined: 2024-07-14
#77 · (edited) Quote Reply

When the hell did Musk get to 800? This is nuts! I blinked and it happened

If one ship cost is one bilion dollars(Elon once bought a yacht for one bilion dollars) he could fund all ships for Achaemenid Empire for Battle of Salamis.

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ZILtoid1991 lemmy.world ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-03-16
#78 · Quote Reply

Not trying to be that guy, but ActivityPub is technically owned by the W3C. I agree with the sentiment of your post regarding the free nature of AP.

The specification yes. But can they silence voices they don't like, and amplify those they do? No? Then no problem.

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parlaptie feddit.org parlaptie@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-09-05
#79 · Quote Reply

They are, at the very least, incompetent-bad. Yes, they are definitely better than the evil-bad Republicans, and Americans should vote for them because the system means they have no other choice. But there is criticism to be had against them, too.

They're not incompetent. They serve the owning class just like republicans do. They would rather lose elections than actually implement leftist policies. It's all intentional.

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Leon pawb.social Dojan@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-03-20
#80 · Quote Reply

Yes, now realize every establishment Democrat is also paid off by these demons too. Grassroots progressives or RIP the system, I have no other choice.

If you're playing a game by the rules your opponent not only writes, but also actively breaks, and cheats, you're going to lose.

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Leon pawb.social Dojan@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-03-20
#81 · Quote Reply

Is that a media outlet?

Name would be fitting. They're a law firm pretending to be a software company.

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Aceticon lemmy.dbzer0.com Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-06
#82 · (edited) Quote Reply

The US has been an Oligarchy for quite a while now.

Amongst other things that's why Bernie's campaign to be the Democrat candidate was torpedoed directly by the DNC so that Hillary "I got a cool half a million to give a speech to Goldman Sach's traders" Clinton got the nomination and then proceeded to lose to none other than old-money multi-millionaire Donald Trump.

I mean, it's pretty obvious even before Reagan that the Hierarchy Of Power in the US has in many things had Money as a higher power than Democratically Elected Administration - or in other words, the inverse of the order that it should be in Democracy - and that has expanded to pretty much all things since.

The US (and several other so-called "Democratic" nations) hasn't had Democracy for many years.

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Proprietary_Blend lemmy.world Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-12-25
#83 · Quote Reply

He's done far more than you to try and fight it. Why so hostile towards him?

STFU. It's a joke dumbass

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Proprietary_Blend lemmy.world Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-12-25
#84 · Quote Reply

You go back to the white house

No you

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MousePotatoDoesStuff lemmy.world MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-09
#85 · Quote Reply

Message here is: Dems bad!

A haiku is supposed to have a 5-7-5 syllable structure. Try again.

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teslekova sh.itjust.works teslekova@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-09
#86 · Quote Reply

Sure but watch this Tankies suck! Stalin was a monster. China is an undemocratic oligarchy. Luigi Mangione should go shoot Kim Jong Un. See? That's why the fediverse is better.
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teslekova sh.itjust.works teslekova@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-09
#87 · Quote Reply

Institutional investors vote with the board as a matter of policy. What that 65% actually is, is money from average Americans' retirement accounts that has been aggregated into index funds instead of individual stocks. That means those individual investors are disenfranchised from voting their shares. That 65% doesn't dilute Bezos' power; it inflates it at the expense of the "little people." Yo...

Fascinating. Thanks, hadn't heard of this.

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teslekova sh.itjust.works teslekova@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-01-09
#88 · Quote Reply

If one ship cost is one bilion dollars(Elon once bought a yacht for one bilion dollars) he could fund all ships for Achaemenid Empire for Battle of Salamis.

Battle of Salamis with super yachts!

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elbiter lemmy.world elbiter@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-04-03
#89 · Quote Reply

Of course it is. And is also about oligarchs giving orders to the media they control to not call them by that name.

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StraponStratos lemmy.sdf.org StraponStratos@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2024-10-04
#90 · Quote Reply

Blue Shell the rich

Luigi the rich in the streets, the boardrooms, the vacation towns, their homes, or anywhere else.

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StraponStratos lemmy.sdf.org StraponStratos@lemmy.sdf.org
Joined: 2024-10-04
#91 · Quote Reply

Who needs comparison? Dems bad!

Yes. Glad you agree.

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stinerman feddit.online stinerman@feddit.online
Joined: 2025-12-02
#92 · Quote Reply

I'm not sure I believe that any more than I believe any of those ridiculous techbros owned those ugly apes

AP is just a protocol. Like HTTP. The IETF owns the HTTP protocol. Anyone is free to implement it, but they decide what HTTP is and how it evolves over time.

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e8CArkcAuLE piefed.social e8CArkcAuLE@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-08-12
#93 · Quote Reply

Thanks, the link works now. $839 billion (Bernie's post misstates at 829). The most normal and human response to reading this list is to feel physically ill.

https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/
still not working for me

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Grail multiverse.soulism.net Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
Joined: 2026-01-14
#94 · Quote Reply

AP is just a protocol. Like HTTP. The IETF owns the HTTP protocol. Anyone is free to implement it, but they decide what HTTP is and how it evolves over time.

I don't believe many people implementing AP listen to W3C. W3C can say they own it, but I want to see practical evidence, not just a flag.

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stinerman feddit.online stinerman@feddit.online
Joined: 2025-12-02
#95 · Quote Reply

I don't believe many people implementing AP listen to W3C. W3C can say they own it, but I want to see practical evidence, not just a flag.

By that definition no one owns any open standard. Either way this was an academic argument to start with, so it's not worth belaboring.

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lechekaflan lemmy.world lechekaflan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#96 · Quote Reply

It's been a problem ever since the Industrial Revolution, which oligarchs supplanted the aristocracy while class conflict remained. There were attempts at changing the status quo, or overthrowing it and replacing with a different system, there's so much discussion and debate, but actual success of the masses -- if we must have inclusion of those oppressed regardless of race, creed or faith -- has yet to be seen.

One thing is for certain: this time peaceful and legal options are starting to be exhausted of their energy, as the moneyed enemy isn't going to yield easily.

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someguy3 lemmy.world someguy3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#97 · Quote Reply

A haiku is supposed to have a 5-7-5 syllable structure. Try again.

Always remember: Dems bad!

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someguy3 lemmy.world someguy3@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-04
#98 · Quote Reply

Yes. Glad you agree.

Of course Dems bad!

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zod000 lemmy.dbzer0.com zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-08-12
#99 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Oracle probably doesn't mean anything to the typical person so Bernie didn't mention it, but Oracle owns a ton of shit which would have made ole Evil Larry an oligarch even before all these media company takeovers.

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DupaCycki lemmy.world DupaCycki@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-17
#100 · Quote Reply

Factually incorrect. All of them are worth $0 at best.

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frostysauce lemmy.world frostysauce@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-31
#101 · Quote Reply

https://www.forbes.com/billionaires/ still not working for me

Works fine for me on Firefox on Android.

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