I think the new one is funnily written. Sorry for being a pleb.

Considering all the crazy shit we've found out...

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the change from clear good and evil in 80s/90s kids media to modern "we're all just buddies at the end" wasn't some kind of psyop to normalize the next generations to tolerate and handwave powerful people doing horrible shit.

Like, there was zero blurry lines back then.

If an oligarch was destroying the environment and harming people in the pursuit of power, John Leguizamo would show up and go Luigi all over some asses.

The second Mario Movie lost me when it played Thunderstruck while Donkey Kong and Mario were fighting.

I loves me some Akka Dakka, but there’s such a deep musical well to draw from with all the Mario games that it made it feel even more like an unscrupulous cash grab.

One of these films has 'Walk the dinosaur', The other does not.

Captain planet? No way - it's all about Coalie now!

Hahahha WTF

I've never seen anyone say "Akka Dakka" before and clearly I was missing out. Also, agreed on all points.

An Aussie guy told me once that's what they call it, at least some of them

Is.....is this a real kids show?

Actually they were red and green collared...

It's a cute fun little animated mario movie. There's nothing wrong with it, and there are funny parts in it. It's ok to enjoy.

It's a real "educational mascot" the gov introduced but I'm not aware of it being used in children's programming, yet.

It warms my heart to see the cyberpunk film get some love. It's an entertaining film. I even have the book version of that one!

Check the Morton Jankel Cut.

It's true, that's how it's said down here! Usually by fans more so than just generally.

I'm pretty sure that Jack Black contractually requires that all projects he works on have to include at least one AC/DC song.

That's a funny thought, but in the new one Bowser was unquestionably bad. His motivations were more relatable for most people, but there wasn't any time spent attempting to justifying what he did.

Well, one was based off the video game, one loosely referenced.

Niether was a great movie, but kid me enjoyed the John Legluigi performance alot. Guess it depends on what ya like.

One of these films has the 2 towers get destroyed, and the other did not

To be fair the majority of modern movies are just cameos and references. So while it might have sucked (don't know haven't seen it and don't intend to) it's probably on par with the modern craptacular that is cinema.

That said I have always loved the OG Mario movie because its just Fun. Outside of that one movie I never cared for anything related to Nintendo, thats how great I think that one stupid movie is.

Haven't watched the "new" one. Having said that, it's an unfair comparison even if it seems like an obvious comparison to pretty much everybody 5 and older who is aware of "Mario Brothers".

Did someone get rocket boots and a freakin lazer cannon?

Or was he "defeated" and escaped to live another day with zero consequences?

see also, the hbomberguy read of the first sonic game

Only because they didn't use their classic colors.

Put a young audience in front of a Bugs Life.

You're 10000% right in my book. All planned.

Because all the good shit has already been written!

Depends on whether you believe in rehabilitation or not because nu Bowser is imprisoned at the end of the movie.

Fuck Jaybles

Rage Kage 5 EVAR

It sure seems that way but I would argue that A24 films is doing a pretty good job of making original entertaining media.

This one fascinates me - did they cover up the woman and the girls face on purpose?

oof, that's rough. i take it this is found footage of removed cuts that have been spliced back in? the jumps in quality are real jarring.

I learned it from DankPods

I agree with that. The OG is a great scifi cyberpunk B movie that gets weird, but it is not a good Mario Bros movie.

I think it’s better that way

You're right, but some of that is actually "in-universe" for Mario games. For example, Mario 3 is a stage play. That's why the set pieces in the levels look the way they do, and why you can get behind the set using the white blocks.

Well, the kids who grew up on 80s good/evil cartoons turned out more right wing fascist loving than the boomers, so that didn't seem to help them.

And at least one jack black song.

There was that old raccoons show with the aardvark villian trying to level the forest where the bad guy isn't completely hated so maybe an early example

How silly. It has many flaws, but that still does not make it impossible to enjoy. It is not an either-or situation.

If things had to be flawless to be enjoyed, we'd all be screwed for having friends.

He was a fairy tale villain, not a modern villain.

A fairy tale villain is evil by virtue, bowser is always bad and will always be bad.

Modern villains are more about becoming evil under the right circumstance, and serve as a warning of why you shouldn’t let that circumstance happen.

The ending was all about that there is always evil in the world, it just needs to be contained by the hero.

In a modern story, it’s more about society overcoming systematic struggles.

All I'm saying is:

Both ways may work short term, but I bet they'll be more of the newest franchise.

When Luigo put a Koopa down, he stayed down.

In the analogy of billionaires who have caused such ridiculous amounts of human pain, suffering, and even death...

Some would argue that rehabilitation isn't an ethical conscious risk considering the damage done to amount of people balanced against honestly less than what? 4-5 school buses full of oligarchs?

Sure, maybe Peter Thiel or Elon Musk's hearts will grow a dozen sizes.

But do the risk/reward.

Basic utilitariansism

For the 7 billion so other people on the planet, and all the future generations. It's worth playing it safe, even if that means we never got a sequel.

Fascist evil genocidera put down, and everyone goes back to Brooklyn to fix toilets, because when fascists show up, everyone fights regardless of what you were doing yesterday.

You just don't see shit like that in kids movies these days.

But for literal millenia, that's what our stories have been.

I just don't think the change is organic, but I'm a cynic

More that capitalism doesn't have a single original thought unless it's a new way to enshittify something.

Sure, plenty of new things that are great are being made, but the good stuff is nigh always without marketability or projected income in mind.

I think you misread what i said.

I loved is as a kid and still thoroughly appreciate it as an adult. Not sure the new one will stand the test of time. Though maybe one day when people are simply amazed that computers were ubiquitous and powerful enough to do such things, it will gain its own unique novelty...

"There's nothing wrong with it... It's ok to enjoy."

And you want to argue over this, why?

Not arguing. Making a statement. Interesting how you think making a counterstatement is turning it into an argument... Genuinely sad for your ability to understand nuance.

There's a deleted scene at the end where some game designers from Nintendo show up and ask Mario and Luigi permission to turn their story into a game. The joke is that the movie isn't a bad Mario adaptation, the game is.

I always said the Mario movie I got as an adult was the one I wanted as a kid, and the one I got as a kid was the one I wanted as an adult