Similar to what happened in Hong Kong a few years back when the CCP introduced metal telephone poles chock full of monitoring equipment and cameras.

Awsome just like in europe and the UK.... nice

"Sabotage"

How would you take such a camera down without being spotted and tracked? Do they not look in all directions?

Not asking for all the technical details on how to take one down, just curious how so many can be taken down with so few arrests after. I guess it's a matter of good disguises?

They usually face one direction. And don't place them to watch each other afaik.

Yeah, it's a weird way of spelling "liberation".

Balaclava and crowbar combo?

Good, fuck this panopticon dystopia shit.

Also, some guy sliced the entire pole and left a message:

hahaha get wrecked ya surveilling fucks

Great. Next hand tRump

Well, that might change after this though.

Even if they do, don't be a dumbass and have your phone on you and be completely covered and approach the device via analogue method (e.g. walking, bicycle without a serial, etc).

How can I help?

Wear appropriate clothing/face covering. Bring paint. Paint lenses. Then dismantle camera.

Can't have shit in Detroit.

Offtopic, but it's sad how all discussion about Hong Kong just slipped away into the void. I think this is the first time I've seen it mentioned in almost a year.

One of my friends just didn't even remember it happening, he thought I was making it up at first.

my neighbor hood has one right at the entrance. I make a point of flipping it off every time i pass it. Also, If you were curious how many of these violations of privacy are around you. Here you go- https://deflock.org/map

They're not omnidirectional. You can just walk up from behind it.

Pesky German dissidents sabotage military equipment, 1944.

right, but you do have to approach it. I think the question is more "how are people not being tracked from blocks away"

Uhhhh I think the better question is how are they?

They sell battery powered angle grinders at Harbour Freight.

The idea of a bunch of surveillance cameras watching other surveillance cameras only to prevent vandalism of the surveillance cameras…

It’s sad, but I don’t think there’s much else that can be done. I guess it’s all running how the CCP wants it now? (Or are there still protests we just don’t hear about?)

No curiosity here. I just assume I'm being monitored everywhere I go now, though I keep my phone in a faraday bag when I'm not using it, so that at least is something.

All a person can do now is manage the problem incrementally. I love the idea of people sabotaging doorbell cams though.

This is exactly what this company deserves, to be smashed out of business and history.

Reminder: If you destroy a camera, be aware that other cameras in the area may be recording you as well. Protect your identity.

This is too defeatist for me. I am upset to see these all over town, but too small minded to do anything about it. I want to start something to pressure community leaders to change, but i worry that i'll make a lot of noise then drop it like i do with everything. I'd love to join with a group.

"crime"

This news man lol

On a macro scale I do think the privacy ship has sailed. Seeing the leaked illegal footage in the Guthrie case confirmed that the big tech companies are spying on us, storing the footage permanently, and leaking it to the government covertly upon request. I don't think it's unfair to presume that both ruling parties know and love this, which means we're never turning back that clock.

On the local level, though, change is still eminently possible. I actually drafted an email to my HOA this morning about getting these doorbell cams banned in my building.

Follow that link above. There’s a few great online communities around this. One involves keeping these camera out of places that don’t have them yet, for example.

Check out Benn Jordan and Louis Rossman on YT as they are two people spearheading this from a social standpoint. Louis specifically regularly provides links to contacting your legislators about it, including things to say to them. It’s faster and easier than you’d think to do.

Leave your fucking phone at home too.

Tell hood he should take that thing down!

Damn that's aluminium, not steel. You can do that with an angle grinder, reciprocating saw, or even a mapp gas torch

it’s sorta like llm agents in a social network talking amongst themselves, innit?

1. https://deflock.org/
2. https://www.homedepot.com/b/Tools-Hand-Tools-Hammers-Sledgehammers/N-5yc1vZc98i

Dress like an ice agent (but only for a brief moment please)

Leave your phone at home.

Don't drive your own car there, and don't get an uber.

Ride a scooter, bicycle, or walk.

Wear a dust mask, headphones (to prevent ear pattern recognition) and safety glasses.

Wear a high vis vest while working on the camera. The retro reflective strips show up as dazzling white on infrared cameras, washing out the image. It also helps make any witness assume you're a legitimate worker

Wear dark clothing with no logos over the top of something dorky, like a white Ralph Lauren shirt and golf shorts. Ditch the dark clothing if you even sense you might be stopped on the way home.

Put duct tape on the soles of your shoes to make the shoe prints indistinct.

Wear gloves, rigger gloves are fine, latex if you have nothing else.

Work quickly, never run (unless your under disguise is a jogging outfit).

if you see a cop, security, or any person that suspects you, believe in your heart and soul that you haven't committed a crime. Find a way to delete the act from your memory, become an innocent person in your own mind.

Emotional escalation to cop should be indifference, confusion, irritation, indignant, suspicion, and when detained or arrested, lawful but otherwise silent cooperation. That's how innocent people behave when suspected or accused of a crime. Once detained, say nothing except your name, age, DOB, address, license number ect and "I don't know, I need to speak to a lawyer." Even though they will ask you a thousand questions to try to get you to implicate yourself. There is nothing you can say that will talk you out of cuffs.

I've seen them installed in pairs that watch each other. I also see them in the vicinity of store security cams or intersection cams. I don't know of one in my area that isn't in range of another camera.

Where in Europe does a private company do this?

GDPR explicitly outlaws it.

Guess who else also needs to be "vandalized"

There it is a small glimpse of hope

They are beginning to disguise them in cones, barrels and small ones on a pole as small as rebar.

Yep, that's the direction I was thinking. The whole point of these cameras is to track people, including you, meaning that they can track everyone in the area before and after a camera is destroyed. It seems to me that the logical time to destroy a camera is when few other people are arround to stop/witness someone destroying a camera, but that also means there are few people to track and therefore it's easier to single out whoever did it.

Just gonna leave this here for anyone so inclined

https://github.com/colonelpanichacks/flock-you

Also https://github.com/colonelpanichacks/flock-you

Edit: For the people confused, you install the firmware onto a OUI-SPY device, which will buzz when it detects the presence of Flock and other networks, and logs the location using your phones GPS, which can then be exported and submitted to the Deflock database.

Paint ball guns with permanent ink ammunition works too.

Killing nazis is also a crime. Both currently, and throughout nazi Germany. Do with that information what you will.

I would wonder if it would be illegal to promote your live of the country by hanging a giant flag directly in the viewing path of the camera. Would you get arrested for being too patriotic?

This is fantastic news

Yes, that's why we have https://github.com/colonelpanichacks/flock-you

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