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TIL that last month, a rich man in New Jersey killed a pedestrian and left the scene. He was put on trial. The jury found him guilty. 15 minutes later, he walked out free.
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NomNom feddit.uk NomNom@feddit.uk
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TrackinDaKraken lemmy.world DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world
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Because fuck NYT

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/gov-murphy-pardons-son-of-nj-powerbroker-who-was-convicted-in-deadly-hit-and-run/4336762/

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JoshuaFalken lemmy.world JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world
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Unsurprisingly the same Governor that made plates and insurance mandatory for all e-bikes. Guy had a busy week as he was leaving office apparently.

Issuing this pardon before the jury had even rendered the verdict. Funny how mountains can be moved so expeditiously when it's for a friend.

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three_trains_in_a_trenchcoat piefed.social three_trains_in_a_trenchcoat@piefed.social
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Because fuck NYT https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/gov-murphy-pardons-son-of-nj-powerbroker-who-was-convicted-in-deadly-hit-and-run/4336762/

Not just a rich man, the nepo baby of a Democratic party power broker, apparently

FTA:

“Unfortunately, when politics pervades justice, the rule of law becomes subordinate to influence and power…a conviction can be rendered meaningless not by the verdict of a jury, but by the intervention of political power and connections,” the ACPO spokesperson wrote. “Justice must be blind to status, relationships, power, and expediency; when it is not, the community loses faith in the very system meant to protect it.”

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AJMaxwell lemmy.world ajmaxwell@lemmy.world
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It would been a shame if karma bite that guy in the ass and he got assaulted in the street and left for dead.

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dustbin thelemmy.club dustbin@thelemmy.club
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NomNom feddit.uk NomNom@feddit.uk
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Because fuck NYT https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/gov-murphy-pardons-son-of-nj-powerbroker-who-was-convicted-in-deadly-hit-and-run/4336762/

NBC is actually a much worse company.

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Whirling_Ashandarei lemmy.world Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world
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#8 · Quote Reply

Pictures of the victim and his family/friends, no pictures of the dickhead or his piece of shit father in either article. Interesting.

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Mouselemming sh.itjust.works Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works
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Pictures of the victim and his family/friends, no pictures of the dickhead or his piece of shit father in either article. Interesting.

Image search of Harris Jacobs Joe Jacobs brings them all up if you want. I'm not likely to run into them from 3000 miles away.

But if I did, I wouldn't flee the scene like a coward.

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Whirling_Ashandarei lemmy.world Whirling_Ashandarei@lemmy.world
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Image search of Harris Jacobs Joe Jacobs brings them all up if you want. I'm not likely to run into them from 3000 miles away. But if I did, I wouldn't flee the scene like a coward.

I'm sure the pictures are not hard to find, which speaks to the journalism.

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InfiniteGlitch lemmy.dbzer0.com ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I hope that it haunts him every day and night. He should be put in prison, he fled the scene and killed someone. Prison.

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Zephorah discuss.online Zephorah@discuss.online
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#12 · Quote Reply

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Thanks. NYT is paywalled.

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NoTagBacks lemmy.dbzer0.com NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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I just don't understand, are these politicians really that stupid? You do shit like this when the general public is more cognizant of distrust in government institutions, you start building factories for more Luigis. If your average normies are experiencing a noticeable and tangible decrease in standard of living, are personally and physically seeing more live protests, are constantly seeing a stream of authoritarian moves from the government, and you pile on this blatant miscarriage of justice seen from both major parties, where do you think people are gonna turn to for justice? And when you're this public and blatant about it, who's head is on the spike first, historically speaking? I really don't think everyone is prepared for the consequences of continuing down this road, because participation in the consequences will likely be much more mandatory than they have been historically.

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Fredselfish lemmy.world Fredselfish@lemmy.world
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Because fuck NYT https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/gov-murphy-pardons-son-of-nj-powerbroker-who-was-convicted-in-deadly-hit-and-run/4336762/

Well give that fucking family OJ treatment cant pardon away a civil suit. And since he was found guilty well then take that fucking families wealth.

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lost_faith lemmy.ca lost_faith@lemmy.ca
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#15 · Quote Reply

I hope that it haunts him every day and night. He should be put in prison, he fled the scene and killed someone. Prison.

6'x8' is too big, maybe 1.5'x6' will fit better

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chuckleslord lemmy.world chuckleslord@lemmy.world
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#16 · Quote Reply

I just realized that the knowledge I have from newspapers from my youth no longer applies. They no longer put the most pertinent info near the top, but at the bottom. Burying the lede is just the default nowadays.

The governor pardoned him almost immediately after the jury came back.

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dylanmorgan slrpnk.net dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net
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The power of the pardon is so fucking stupid. Make prosecutors and cops and judges accountable for legal malpractice, and make legislators include negating convictions as part of legislation that changes a law.

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WanderingThoughts europe.pub WanderingThoughts@europe.pub
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I just don't understand, are these politicians really that stupid? You do shit like this when the general public is more cognizant of distrust in government institutions, you start building factories for more Luigis. If your average normies are experiencing a noticeable and tangible decrease in standard of living, are personally and physically seeing more live protests, are constantly seeing a ...

They believe they can get away with it because nothing that bad has happened yet. Like most people, they don't think it long term consequences and these things build up over time, build momentum until they can't stop it. But then it's too late.

It doesn't help that like most people they're comparing themselves with their neighbors and peer group to try and outdo each other. And in their case it's not who holds the best backyard barbeque but it's a gala on their yacht. And like most people don't think too much about the cow who's meat is now on the grill, they don't think about a few thousand workers they swindled out of their wage.

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Fedizen lemmy.world Fedizen@lemmy.world
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#19 · Quote Reply

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The article is so poorly written. I can't believe people pay for this kind of garbage writing.

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Fedizen lemmy.world Fedizen@lemmy.world
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#20 · (edited) Quote Reply

Its clear pardons are a major component of institutionalized corruption and should have some kind of formal review process by legislative bodies.

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whotookkarl lemmy.dbzer0.com whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#21 · (edited) Quote Reply

Here's a similar story from a couple years ago about a racist piece of shit who shot and killed a protestor, was found guilty by a jury of peers, then governor and likely klan member Greg Abbott pardoned him.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/texas-gov-abbott-pardons-ex-army-sergeant-convicted-of-killing-black-lives-matter-protester-in-2020

Here's a quote from Daniel Perry on social media before he murdered someone at a BLM protest in cold blood:

"I might go to Dallas to shoot looters."

And

The friend replied to Perry, “Can you catch me a negro daddy", and Perry responded, “That is what I am hoping.”

Abbott pretended it was a self defense killing when Perry drove up, shot his victim who was pushing his girlfriend's wheelchair, the drove off. It didn't hold up in court so he lied about it in his pardon. Murderers and would-be slavers, Abbott and Perry deserve a long drop and a short rope. Pardons are a mockery of justice by jury decision.

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Proprietary_Blend lemmy.world Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world
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You forgot about how humid it was.

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Auli lemmy.ca Auli@lemmy.ca
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#23 · Quote Reply

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So what is the point of juged by your pears. Or is it we are not his peers cause we poor.

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Auli lemmy.ca Auli@lemmy.ca
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I hope that it haunts him every day and night. He should be put in prison, he fled the scene and killed someone. Prison.

It won't money has a way of hiding that.

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incompetent programming.dev incompetent@programming.dev
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NBC is actually a much worse company.

How so? I'm not that familiar with either of them other than knowing they are news outlets.

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sem piefed.blahaj.zone sem@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#26 · Quote Reply

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I don't have a problem with the writing style. Doesntseem like AI to me.

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sem piefed.blahaj.zone sem@piefed.blahaj.zone
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#27 · Quote Reply

Here is another case of a connected rich man killing a poor innocent, and going scot free. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FmbwU3J-2kk

Bob Dylan - The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll

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bagsy lemmy.world bagsy@lemmy.world
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#28 · Quote Reply

We can not allow 2 justice systems to exit. If the law isnt equal for all, then what is it? What is the point?

The government wants our taxes, but refuses to represent us or protect us. Thats not what i signed up for. Thats not american. Thats not worth defending.

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bagsy lemmy.world bagsy@lemmy.world
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#29 · Quote Reply

The power of the pardon is so fucking stupid. Make prosecutors and cops and judges accountable for legal malpractice, and make legislators include negating convictions as part of legislation that changes a law.

I really like the idea of invalidating the law if a pardon was issued. I immediately wonder how fascists would use it as a weapon somehow.

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Jhex lemmy.world Jhex@lemmy.world
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We can not allow 2 justice systems to exit. If the law isnt equal for all, then what is it? What is the point? The government wants our taxes, but refuses to represent us or protect us. Thats not what i signed up for. Thats not american. Thats not worth defending.

you already have 2 systems… it's time to act to destroy them and fix it

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RememberTheApollo_ lemmy.world RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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#31 · Quote Reply

I really like the idea of invalidating the law if a pardon was issued. I immediately wonder how fascists would use it as a weapon somehow.

They pardon someone for being a pedo.

Maybe your plan wouldn’t work so well.

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6stringringer lemmy.zip 6stringringer@lemmy.zip
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#32 · Quote Reply

Vigilante justice.
It doesn’t always work out.
Occasionally it does.
Just saying.

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minorkeys lemmy.world minorkeys@lemmy.world
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#33 · Quote Reply

We can not allow 2 justice systems to exit. If the law isnt equal for all, then what is it? What is the point? The government wants our taxes, but refuses to represent us or protect us. Thats not what i signed up for. Thats not american. Thats not worth defending.

Oppression and control. Protection of the wealthy from the poor.

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minorkeys lemmy.world minorkeys@lemmy.world
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#34 · Quote Reply

I'm sure the pictures are not hard to find, which speaks to the journalism.

And the influence over it.

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MuskyMelon lemmy.world MuskyMelon@lemmy.world
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#35 · Quote Reply

Vigilante justice. It doesn’t always work out. Occasionally it does. Just saying.

Sometimes the law makes the wrong decision and at those times, something can be done to correct that. That's all I'm saying.

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6stringringer lemmy.zip 6stringringer@lemmy.zip
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#36 · (edited) Quote Reply

Sometimes the law makes the wrong decision and at those times, something can be done to correct that. That's all I'm saying.

And sometimes they don’t.
Perhaps we give pause and take a moment?
Then maybe lady justice will do diligent service and we can collectively knuckle bump and call it a win?😃
I’m not in a hurry.
Let’s see what a civil court says?
Six dollars & my left teste says it will be settled ultimately after much dickering for a non disclosed amount.
I reckon justice has a dollar amount set as an affirmation.
And there still will be the divide.
I am not exactly thrilled about this btw.

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HasturInYellow lemmy.world HasturInYellow@lemmy.world
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#37 · Quote Reply

We can not allow 2 justice systems to exit. If the law isnt equal for all, then what is it? What is the point? The government wants our taxes, but refuses to represent us or protect us. Thats not what i signed up for. Thats not american. Thats not worth defending.

To go further, it IS worthy of contempt, hatred, and VIOLENCE DESTRUCTION.

OPPRESSION MUST BE MET WITH AN EQUAL OR GREATER REACTION. EVERY TIME.

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Test_Tickles lemmy.world Test_Tickles@lemmy.world
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#38 · Quote Reply

So what is the point of juged by your pears. Or is it we are not his peers cause we poor.

Unfortunately, we never were. They have just stopped pretending at this point.

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Treczoks lemmy.world Treczoks@lemmy.world
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#39 · Quote Reply

American justice. Best justice money can buy.

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lastlybutfirstly lemmy.world lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
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#40 · Quote Reply

Vigilante justice. It doesn’t always work out. Occasionally it does. Just saying.

Vigilante justice. Chomping at the bit to dole out a death sentence based on a 34 word post title on a website.

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6stringringer lemmy.zip 6stringringer@lemmy.zip
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#41 · Quote Reply

Vigilante justice. Chomping at the bit to dole out a death sentence based on a 34 word post title on a website.

I didn’t say that. You said that. What the hell is up with the death sentence talk?

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Slashme lemmy.world Slashme@lemmy.world
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#42 · Quote Reply

Holy shit, that article is tedious to read. Nowadays "good writing" seems to mean "jump around in the timeline a lot and write a whole lot of irrelevant backstory".

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m0darn lemmy.ca m0darn@lemmy.ca
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#43 · Quote Reply

I didn’t say that. You said that. What the hell is up with the death sentence talk?

Vigilantes can't put people into jail.

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yabbadabaddon lemmy.zip yabbadabaddon@lemmy.zip
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#44 · Quote Reply

Vigilantes can't put people into jail.

No, but they don't have to murder them either.

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6stringringer lemmy.zip 6stringringer@lemmy.zip
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#45 · Quote Reply

No, but they don't have to murder them either.

True dat!

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SabinStargem lemmy.today SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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#46 · Quote Reply

I nominate this bastard as a potential resident of Luigi's mansion.

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SabinStargem lemmy.today SabinStargem@lemmy.today
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#47 · (edited) Quote Reply

Should America be reformed, there should be a rule about pardons: A governor initiates the pardon, then 51% of all participating voters has to reject the pardon to prevent it. Further, the pardon's effect is restricted to their state. A presidential pardon is national, but again requires 51% of participating voters to deny it.

This form of cancelling vote allows decision makers to have reasonable autonomy, but if voters vote against it, the pardon is easily denied by the public. The voter pool is whoever sends in a vote of yay or nay. So if there are people dedicated to preventing a leader from making bad pardons, they can get out the word and swell the pool of rejection votes.


IMO, we should have open-sourced digital and standardized direct voting on all matters, with physical laminated printouts for verification against the digital votes. Everyone attached to a city can vote there, those who live in a state can vote on state matters, and occupants of the nation can do the same on that level. No gender or qualifications, beyond having a residence within the nation, and having citizenship - regardless of how it was obtained.

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Texas_Hangover lemmy.radio Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio
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#48 · Quote Reply

Holy shit, that article is tedious to read. Nowadays "good writing" seems to mean "jump around in the timeline a lot and write a whole lot of irrelevant backstory".

The Tarantino Method, they call it.

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lastlybutfirstly lemmy.world lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
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#49 · Quote Reply

I didn’t say that. You said that. What the hell is up with the death sentence talk?

Oh, I'm sorry. I was stereotyping vigilante mobs.

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WorldsDumbestMan lemmy.today WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today
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#50 · Quote Reply

Testing the new lawlesness apparently.

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Jarix lemmy.world Jarix@lemmy.world
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#51 · Quote Reply

Here is another case of a connected rich man killing a poor innocent, and going scot free. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FmbwU3J-2kk Bob Dylan - The Lonesome Death of Hattie Carroll

To be fair, pardons exist for cases such as The Hurricane

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