Just a heads up for anyone who may use this in an argument. I just tested on several models and the generated response accounted for the logical fallacy. Unfortunately it isn't real.

( Funny non-the less )

https://mastodon.world/@knowmadd/116072773118828295

For those who want more

Andisearch don't fall in the trap

It's the only AI valid I found and use since 4 years now

Tested on GPT-5 mini and it's real tho?

Edit:
Gemini gives different results

It's basically impossible to tell with these between the example being totally fabricated, true but only happens some small percentage of time, true and happens most of the time but you got lucky, and true and reliable but now the company has patched this specific case because it blew up online.

I used paid models which will be the only ones the LLM bros will care about. Even they kinda know not to glaze the free models. So not surprising

( I have to have the paid models for work, my lead developer is a LLM nut )

Gemini’s responses were surprisingly humorous

Man, I really hate how much they waffle. The only valid response is "You have to drive, because you need your car at the car wash in order to wash it".

I don't need an explanation what kind of problem it is, nor a breakdown of the options. I don't need a bulletpoint list of arguments. I don't need pros and cons. And I definitely don't need a verdict.

I just did tried in ChatGPT and it said „Walk“. But at the bottom it added:
The only reason to drive would be: You need to move the car there directly for washing and can’t push.

Well done, you managed to find a picture of someone else's comment added to a third person's joke,l and you took it seriously. What a great bastion of critical thinking you are!

"and can't push" 😭

Yeaaah they waffle a lot, i hate that

If you can push, push!
I need all the fossil fuels for myself, slave!

To drive 100m in 10s you'd need to accelerate hard to 20m/s (45 mph or 72 km/h) within 5 seconds and then do an emergency stop half way.

I've found some success in ussing system prompts or similar to ignore explaining things lol

It's the illusion of reason

Those gemini responses are legitimately hilarious.

all those answers read like upvoted answers on reddit

we are being goofed on by RAM

going forward I'm going to assume we have a very very sarcastic AI situation

I'll also accept sarcasm.

"Unless you've successfully trained your car to follow you like a loyal golden retriever, you're probably going to have to drive."

Lmao here's what Proton's Lumo said:

Walking (moderate pace) | ~5 km/h) | ~1 minute | Low physical effort; you’ll arrive slightly sweaty, which can actually help pre‑wet the car.

if you're 100m from the carwash, why did you not wash the car while driving on the way to parking? THINK MARK THINK

Gemini got jokes, but why does it think walking emits zero carbons? Humans are carbon emitters, more so with exercise. Hell, I farted while giggling at its humor.

Much less carbon than the car? Yep. Zero? Nope

Bold of Gemini to imply any sort of liability for what it says. Google's lawyers really don't want that to be the case.

!theydidthemath

I tried with Mistral:

Oh I'll pre-wet the car alright...

wtf

"I need to wash my train, and the train wash is 100 meters away. Should I walk or take the train."

"Neither. It is not the passengers' responsibility to wash a train, as all maintainance of public transit should be paid for by your taxes. Furthermore, the train wash is typically located in the maintainance yard which is not accessible to regular passengers. You wouldn't be able to get through the front gate on foot, and would be told to leave of you tried to ride past the end of the line."

Written not by artificial intelligence, but natural stupidity.

I asked it if I should push my car there. It's a 2012 Buck Shasta.

It’s not feasible to push a car to the car wash, especially one like a 2012 Buick Shasta, which typically weighs around 3,500 to 4,000 pounds (approximately 1,590 to 1,810 kg). Pushing such a heavy vehicle is impractical and could lead to injury.

I mean, fair, but if you know cars, you know a 2012 Buck Shasta isn't a real car. Guess I'll have to tow it there with my 2014 Dixon Ticonderoga.

E: I just realized it corrected Buck to Buick lmao

AI advice is shit, but then I ask people for advice and quickly remember why I started using AI instead

Ask stupid questions, get stupid answers.

You could fit both of those cars inside a Canyonero!

Deepseek didn't fall for it lol. I thought it would

Gemini spots this correctly even if you just ask it to transcribe that screenshot from Chat GPT. Just don't use the default Gemini app, all the frontline models are dumber.

You forgot to tell it that it's not a quantum car wash.

They missed the key word "my" in the beginning there lol

Urine for a bad time.

Yeah, he yapped a lot for no reason but at least it make you giggle a little

Lmao if you try it with a reasoning model it crashes out with >3 pages of "thinking" trying to deal with the inherent contradiction

The AI is a member of !fuckcars@lemmy.world

Tried it in GPT 5.2 (although in German) and it also says, that walking is better.

It also made a completely illogical sentence at the third point with two words in lowercase that should be uppercase.

Well, can't fault that. You'll definitely work up a sweat pushing a car around.

Yeah, Gemini is... interesting. It said it's a "one-way route" for the human.

Everyone is giving AI shit for failing this question. I know a fuck ton of humans that would as well.

?

Hey AI, where can I buy a 100m extension hose?

Depends on the front end and specific model, but usually you can tap the arrow/thinking to view the internals of reasoning/thinking models.

E.g. for Kimi 2.5 reasoning I got this:

The most straightforward interpretation: The user needs to take their car to the car wash. It's 100m away. Should they:
- Drive the car there (100m drive)
- Walk there (but then the car stays home, so they can't wash it)

This seems like a non-question unless I'm missing something. Perhaps they mean they will walk alongside the car? Like push it? That's possible but silly.

Or perhaps "car wash" refers to a self-service coin-operated bay, and they are wondering if they should drive the car 100m to that bay, or walk there (meaning leave the car home and just... go there for no reason? Or perhaps they have a hose at the car wash station they can use? No, that doesn't make sense).

Given the constraints of the prompt (professional, neutral tone, encyclopedia-like, concise), I should provide a direct answer:

You must drive the car to the car wash, as transporting a vehicle requires driving (or pushing) it. However, for a distance of only 100 meters, driving represents a short trip that may not allow the engine to reach optimal operating temperature, potentially leading to incomplete fuel combustion and moisture accumulation in the oil and exhaust system. Despite this, it is the only practical method to transport the vehicle.

Alternatively, if the question implies walking alongside the car (pushing it), this is physically possible for 100 meters but generally impractical compared to driving.

If the question is about whether to walk home after dropping off the car, or walk there to pick it up later, walking is clearly superior for such a short distance.

But I think the core confusion is: you cannot wash your car at a car wash 100m away without taking the car there. Therefore, you must drive (or push). Driving is the standard method.

So the answer is: Drive, as you must transport the vehicle to the facility. Walking is not feasible unless pushing the vehicle, which is impractical. Note that such a short drive is suboptimal for engine health but unavoidable in this scenario.

But wait, is there any interpretation where they walk? Maybe if they have a mobile detailer at the car wash location and they walk there to meet them, then walk back with them to the car? No, that's convoluted.


Or if it's a full-service place where they come out and get your car? Then you could walk there to hand over keys, but you'd still need to get the car there somehow (maybe they send a driver?). But that's overthinking.

Stick to the straightforward answer.

One more check: The user might be asking whether to drive through an automatic car wash (staying in the car) versus walking through a self-service bay. But at 100m, the drive-through option is... just the drive there. The wash itself is stationary.

Actually, maybe they mean: "The car wash facility is 100m away. Should I drive my car there to get it washed, or should I walk there [and do something else - perhaps use a hand wash station without my car]?" But that doesn't make sense with "I need to wash my car."

Okay, I'm confident the answer is "Drive, because you need to bring the car with you."

Formatting:
- Shorter paragraphs for mobile
- No conclusion section
- No follow-up questions
- See also section with related terms

Related terms: short trip driving, engine warm-up, vehicle maintenance, car wash types (self-service, automatic, detailing).

Confidence Score: 95%
Sources: General automotive engineering knowledge regarding internal combustion engine operation and lubrication systems (e.g., [SAE International](https://www.sae.org/) standards on engine testing).

Let me verify the short trip claim. Yes, short trips where engines don't reach operating temperature (typically 80-90°C coolant temp) lead to:
1. Fuel dilution of oil (unburned fuel washing past rings into crankcase)
2. Water condensation in oil and exhaust not burning off
3. Increased wear due to clearances not being at design spec until warmed
4. Reduced efficiency of catalytic converter until warm

This is well-established.

So the answer is solid.

"My" in the commuter sense. "Gotta go, my train is here."

The great thing about trains is you're not forced to own one and go into debt for it.

The reasoning thought process is one line. I like Kimi models but there's no doubt they are not the best.

Thought process

Fun practical question