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hector
lemmy.today
hector@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-09-03 |
if im alone in my car, i'll just start talking gibberish or about that time i kicked a cyber-dolphin through the moon. just in case the man is training some ai on what my phone's microphone picks up.
The speedquack cyrocrunk failed, need pryoram ciclicogram asap, |
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SilentKnight1369
lemmy.world
SilentKnight1369@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-19 |
This is actually bonkers and goes to show that governments are loosing this battle, this just means that no matter what we cant stop. |
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anthony
lemmy.canthonyscott.io
anthony@lemmy.canthonyscott.io Joined: 2026-02-20 |
So google, amazon and Microsoft are hostile actors.every cloud provider is an enemy of uk government. They have gardeners (at best) or lawyers ( most probably), which did their own research.before writing these abominations. At the same time, they want to give all medical datas in the NHS to palantir. This is the apoteosis of incompetence.
All those companies willingly hand over our data when asked. At this point it's almost a feature |
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Lor
mander.xyz
Lor@mander.xyzJoined: 2026-01-17 |
Wtaf? |
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Chais
sh.itjust.works
Chais@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-12 |
No-one's invading Lincolnshire then.
Easier, not possible. |
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reabsorbthelight
lemmy.world
reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-12-16 |
Do you have a link to the law? |
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87Six
lemmy.zip
87Six@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-09-19 |
Not sure which one is dumber The USA or UK |
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
So google, amazon and Microsoft are hostile actors.every cloud provider is an enemy of uk government. They have gardeners (at best) or lawyers ( most probably), which did their own research.before writing these abominations. At the same time, they want to give all medical datas in the NHS to palantir. This is the apoteosis of incompetence.
Obviously not. They're happy to give MI5 a backdoor into all their systems.
The age old question - malicious or stupid. |
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Redvenom
retrolemmy.com
Redvenom@retrolemmy.com Joined: 2026-02-18 |
So every financial institution and everyone using WhatsApp
I think whatsapp it's already sharing chats with a few governments |
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bluefootedbooby
sopuli.xyz
bluefootedbooby@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2025-07-22 |
If i remember correctly, a few weeks ago a government party had their signal chat leaked. Those people have since ceased using signal right?
Did they also invite a journalist to the group chat? |
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attero
discuss.tchncs.de
attero@discuss.tchncs.deJoined: 2024-05-01 |
There's a common saying in Germany that applies. Obelix knows best. |
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Ulrich
feddit.org
Ulrich@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-12-22 |
There's no problem with Signal's encryption. It's the same issue with any and to end encryption scheme, at either end is a person who can very easily copy and paste everything that has been said in the conversation and send it off to anybody they wish.
No one said there was |
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Ulrich
feddit.org
Ulrich@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-12-22 |
This was written in 1993? Huh, I keep seeing cyber punks around in different contexts too, like some music mixes from some cyber punk festival at least. In the old days, the British Empire steamed open everyone's mail and read it, at least coming from the colonies like India.
Cyberpunk is an aesthetic style. Cypherpunk is not. |
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el_abuelo
programming.dev
el_abuelo@programming.dev Joined: 2024-07-18 |
Not sure which one is dumber The USA or UK
Yes. |
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douglasg14b
lemmy.world
douglasg14b@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
TLS is not typically considered end-to-end encryption. It's transport encryption.
Do they strictly define end to end encryption in this bill? If not, then yes, TLS is "end to end" as the sender encrypts the message, and the receiver decrypts it. Each "end" to each "end" is encrypted, satisfying the semantics of the term. |
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douglasg14b
lemmy.world
douglasg14b@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-01 |
E2E is about the sender encrypting, and only the intended receiver decrypting, with nothing in the middle able to read the data. TLS is not designed for that, as the server you connect to is not necessarily the intended receiver, yet it can see everything. With E2E, you can send data to a server, which is not the intended receiver, and it won't be able to read it.
Your explanation assumes that scope and scale are part of the definition which it is not. If you keep zooming in or zooming out the definition of E2E keeps changing under your statement. If the only knowledge a system has is between a sender and a receiver (Which satisfies even your definition of "intended recipient") then TLS is E2E encrypted. |
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youmaynotknow
lemmy.zip
jjlinux@lemmy.zipJoined: 2025-07-24 |
What I see here is that the UK is a hostile entity towards humanity. So, fuck the UK government and all their parties. Since we're here, fuck the French government as well, just in case. |
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silasmariner
programming.dev
silasmariner@programming.dev Joined: 2023-07-01 |
This is actually bonkers and goes to show that governments are loosing this battle, this just means that no matter what we cant stop.
https://blog.giovanh.com/blog/2025/10/14/a-hack-is-not-enough/ this article makes a sadly excellent point in response to you here. Fair warning: it's long. But even if you dip out early I assume you'll get the point being made |
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Tinidril
midwest.social
Tinidril@midwest.social Joined: 2023-06-07 |
This is actually bonkers and goes to show that governments are loosing this battle, this just means that no matter what we cant stop.
It's not really wrong though. This kind of legislation certainly makes me hostile. |
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betanumerus
lemmy.ca
betanumerus@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-02-22 |
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Buckshot
programming.dev
Buckshot@programming.dev Joined: 2023-06-27 |
Do you have a link to the law?
It's from this report https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/69411a3eadb5707d9f33d7e8/E03512978_-_Un-Act_The_National_Security_Act_in_2024_Accessible.pdf I emailed my MP about this before Christmas and am yet to get a reply |
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Finalsolo963
lemmy.blahaj.zone
Finalsolo963@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-02-16 |
I am trans and a U.S citizen, the UK govt cannot comprehend how hostile I can towards it. |
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ArmchairAce1944
discuss.online
ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online Joined: 2025-07-02 |
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For their own use they have one that would have been a simple off the shelf option for others. |
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JackbyDev
programming.dev
JackbyDev@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-13 |
I am trans and a U.S citizen, the UK govt cannot comprehend how hostile I can towards it.
Hell yeah |
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Kilgore Trout
feddit.it
kilgore_trout@feddit.itJoined: 2022-06-21 |
It's from this report https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/69411a3eadb5707d9f33d7e8/E03512978_-_Un-Act_The_National_Security_Act_in_2024_Accessible.pdf I emailed my MP about this before Christmas and am yet to get a reply
That is irritating. Consider writing anew. |
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JackbyDev
programming.dev
JackbyDev@programming.devJoined: 2023-06-13 |
Even the US used to ban the export of strong encryption algorithms. You used to have to download the stronger encryption algorithms separately. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_Cryptography_Extension |
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iglou
programming.dev
iglou@programming.dev Joined: 2025-05-12 |
Your explanation assumes that scope and scale are part of the definition which it is not. If you keep zooming in or zooming out the definition of E2E keeps changing under your statement. If the only knowledge a system has is between a sender and a receiver (Which satisfies even your definition of "intended recipient") then TLS is E2E encrypted.
The definition of E2EE has evolved since the concept surfaced. You seem to be stuck with the original meaning. TLS does not fit the modern definition. |
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matlag
sh.itjust.works
matlag@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-01 |
Protectind yourself from beind spied on and then potentially blackmailed is a hostile behavior! |
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Alwaysnownevernotme
lemmy.world
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-07-13 |
Look mate yaint paid ya proivocy loicence fer ages. |
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nonentity
sh.itjust.works
nonentity@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2024-06-12 |
If they’re not doing anything wrong, they don’t need to read private communications. |
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mnemonicmonkeys
sh.itjust.works
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-17 |
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Seems appropriate, since the game was invented by brits and the Imperium is an unholy amalgamation of the Roman and British Empires |
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Aqarius
lemmy.world
Aqarius@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-14 |
Protectind yourself from beind spied on and then potentially blackmailed is a hostile behavior!
...to the blackmailer, yes. |
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m3t00🌎🇺🇦
lemmy.world
m3t00@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-01 |
https has got to go |
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EldritchFemininity
lemmy.blahaj.zone
EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2023-11-22 |
Cyberpunk is an aesthetic style. Cypherpunk is not.
Cyberpunk is a genre first and foremost. A critique of capitalism set in a corporate dystopia with transhumanist themes. A lot of the aesthetic is rooted in the culture of the time period that it was created in (the 80s). The cultural fear, more specifically. A time where American corporations, and by extension the US government and population, were afraid of the Japanese economic boom and saw a future where the dollar was replaced by the yen and Japanese supplanted English as the lingua franca of the world, Japanese culture was exported the way American culture is, and Americans started eating their meals with chopsticks instead of forks. |
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mlg
lemmy.world
mlg@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
sneak up into a dark street corner at night "Ay you got that ed25519?" |
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jeffep
lemmy.world
jeffep@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-17 |
No clue where that is from and if it's already in effect, but what's marked here only talks about developers, not users. Still, what a world to live in |
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hydroptic
sopuli.xyz
hydroptic@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-07-17 |
Not sure which one is dumber The USA or UK
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helvetpuli
sopuli.xyz
helvetpuli@sopuli.xyz Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Not as long as UK is the root CA, I suppose.
Normally the certificate signing authority should never see, not need to see anybody's private key, so no. |
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ulterno
programming.dev
ulterno@programming.dev Joined: 2024-11-12 |
Normally the certificate signing authority should never see, not need to see anybody's private key, so no.
But they can, taking help from the DNS (or ISP), send you to a fake website. |
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buddascrayon
lemmy.world
buddascrayon@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-08-28 |
Well, yes, generally the recipient of a message has to get access to its content.
Not running down Signal or any other e2ee client out there. But there are in fact ways to prevent the recipient from retaining and, at least via the device they are using to receive the messages, copying the data within messages. Several banking apps actually include such measures. And perhaps even having a Mission Impossible-esque self destruct on the message where it re-encrypts and then deletes the messages after they have been viewed is a viable way to prevent retention. It would not prevent somebody from using another device to snap a picture of the information in the message, but it would definitely cut down on people's ability to easily leak private conversations that are intended to stay that way. |
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HrabiaVulpes
lemmy.world
HrabiaVulpes@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-02-10 |
Bar to become enemy of British crown is getting lower and lower... |
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UltraGiGaGigantic
lemmy.ml
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-08-23 |
Welcome to the resistance |
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UltraGiGaGigantic
lemmy.ml
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-08-23 |
Look mate yaint paid ya proivocy loicence fer ages.
I paid it, but the transaction was private. Have a nice day. |
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UltraGiGaGigantic
lemmy.ml
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-08-23 |
I am trans and a U.S citizen, the UK govt cannot comprehend how hostile I can towards it.
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UltraGiGaGigantic
lemmy.ml
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-08-23 |
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Dad? |
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UltraGiGaGigantic
lemmy.ml
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-08-23 |
Gee why does the capitalist oligopoly fear communication they can't monitor it's not like they are doing anything wrong and have anything to fear from little old us
The autonomous murder bots are not complete yet |
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UltraGiGaGigantic
lemmy.ml
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-08-23 |
So they're happy for us to read all their messages, right?
I heard reddit sends out warnings for updating certain comments these days. |
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m3t00🌎🇺🇦
lemmy.world
m3t00@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-01 |
always wanted to be a hostile witness |
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UltraGiGaGigantic
lemmy.ml
UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.mlJoined: 2024-08-23 |
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They choose force your hand. Draw the line where you wish. They will arrive at it given enough time. |
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Frenchgeek
lemmy.ml
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml Joined: 2025-08-31 |
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The whole government is currently using the famous ROT26 encryption algorithm. |
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