No one read this to Trump

And then JFK blocked it and nothing happened to him and these plans were surely never implemented and that's the end of the story

Just wait until you see the one being planned to justify postponing the elections.

you should make a distinction between Jews and zionists/the state of Israel, remember that not all Jews are zionists, there are many anti-zionist Jews who oppose Israel and their genocide.

Wow its almost like they wanted the twin towers. What's a national tragedy over a for profit trillion dollar military complex and billions in oil and gas. Who cares if your expendables die that's what they get paid for.

I understand your point, but please accept my comment as it is intended - well-meaning and constructive feedback. Blurring the lines between Zionism and Jewish people actually provides cover for Israel as it gives them shit to point to and say "look, it's not about the genocide, our critics are all jew hating anti-semites", not to mention that you make yourself a useful idiot for actual anti-semites.

I would recommend that you don't share memes that blur those lines, because when you do, you just help Israel.

Horseshoe theory in action. I had check to see if I was on a neo nazi website, but nope, we're on the very left Lemmy where saying Jews did 9/11 is now considered normal

It's actually a win-win as it helps to keep the populace in between fear and nationalist fervor.

No it's not.

I'm assuming Trump will make up an excuse to attack Cuba now. Hell he doesn't even need an excuse to wage war at this point.

That's stupid. This is something that's undoubtedly positive that's being painted as a negative by people who are naive. The one and only reason why we even know this was even a thing is because the US is a democracy with some degree of transparency. Even if its decades later, we can still publicly view, discuss, and criticize things that the government has done in the past because those documents were declassified and released to the public.

Most countries are not like this. There are a lot of instances like this that will never see the light of day until that regime collapses, and even then its successor might keep the secret going. For example, Turkey is STILL locking up the Ottoman archives relating to the Armenian genocide more than century later. There are so many evil plots and schemes made both in the past and present that we will probably never know about because they will never be released publicly due to the ruling regimes wanting to maintain their image. I wish there was more instances like this from the US and every country so we can see the good, the bad, and the ugly and get a real understanding of history.

Do you think 9/11 was a false flag done by the Jews? Normally posts like this should be removed because they're clearly bigoted.

Majority of wars started by the US started Like this. Is anyone studying history? Are you seriously surprised by this? Why is this even top secret, anyone reading knows

I think you'd need the majority of people to care more about others - including the unknown - than themselves, and to be willing, capable and able to see others points of view clearly.

That might be possible in small scale, I don't think it's likely to scale up very well.

People dont read.... Are you surprised by that? Probably not.

I think quite a lot of young people are dopamine addicts now from their apps and attention on those apps. So even if they have free time, it goes to that...

"Trump says the quiet part out loud" as the kids say these days

they have alot of military propaganda and copaganda on thier side, so they dont look evil. shows and movies cant "portray them as the enemy in most cases. movies/ shows(reacher, top gun,,,etc)

But they tried everyone involved with treason, right? Right?

A comment not being removed (so far) by the moderators of a particular instance does not equate to the entire lemmy community agreeing with that comment. To even make that argument is incredibly dishonest and plainly stupid.

Wouldn't be the first time.

haha fuck outta here channer

100% that person is from 4chan lmfao how arent they banned yet .world moderation is abysmal

And video games. MANY people play video games for hours, every day. Imagine what else they could be learning, or doing, in that time. When they graduate from college, they will have played hundreds, perhaps thousands, of hours of video games, and have nothing to show for it. They could have learned to play a musical instrument, or learned a language, or learned to code, or how to repair cars, or had a job, or started an online business, or a relationship with another person, or gotten in shape, or developed interpersonal communication skills, etc.

But they spent their time alone, staring at a screen, playing a game that rewards their dopamine receptors, but provides literally nothing else of value for your life.

They spent their entire childhood doing nothing but becoming solitary Dopamine addicts, while their parents allowed it. Millions of them.

Excuse? "I want it! Give it to me!" is always his "excuse." He's a spoiled 9 year old, and for some reason, MAGAs feel they should give him everything he demands.

MAGAs are bad parents.

Ok Dad, not like people rotted in front of TVs hours a day, that never happened.

Exactly. You always need a war to feed the Military-Industrial Complex, so you do what you need to do to keep it humming.

People die in war, that's just life. So if a few Americans die in the false flag attack that allows the Military to kick off a war, and feed the Military-Industrial Complex that is important because it employs so many Americans, then they are just patriotic Americans who sacrificed for the war effort. They can be proud of their sacrifice for their Nation, even if that Nation never admits it.

/S, obviously

Found Descartes' alt.

It's not the same. Until fairly recently, TV only had a few channels, and most of the day it was showing stuff that no kid would be interested in - talk shows, game shows, soap operas, etc. Every afternoon, every station would show a three hour block of soap operas. EVERY station. So for that block, if you weren't in school, you had NOTHING to watch.

So you went outside, found your friends, went on a bike ride, played a board game, or maybe just went "exploring," just to see what you could find. I would do that MOST days as a kid.

Today, of course, you are right. Between cable and streaming, most kids have a LOT to distract them on TV, but it wasn't always that way.

My son escaped the lure of video games, and anime, but he loves movies, so he spent a lot of time in front of the television, but he became a bonafide cinephile. He has actually been carefully curating his TV watching since he was a teen, searching out the best classic movies, and building a database of films.

Now he's gone back to college for film studies, and his time in front of the TV, carefully watching high quality content, has put him miles ahead of his peers. His film classes often feature the prof and him having a discussion about a movie, as the rest of the class listens, and the faculty is starting to pay extra close attention to him. They've clearly pegged him as a future professional in their industry, because he is so obviously far ahead of every other student. And that's because he didn't waste his time as a teen on things like video games and social media, and actually used that time to learn something that would be useful to his future.

BTW, I didn't push him away or toward anything, I let him choose his own path, and supported him. It was his personal choice to not play video games or do social media. He just wasn't interested. From the time he discovered what a movie was, he was hooked.

Parents are just grateful to not be disturbed i think. They are also exhausted from their lives, working full time.

The system is designed this way, because then those people become good consumers for the corporations. They fill their emotional void with stuff the system sells. Games, movies.

And then you have the hypersexualized movies, designed so people will jerk off. There is also a reason behind all that. For Instagram, its profit motives but it goes hand in hand with what the system wants - passive consumers with no energy to change their lives for the better.

So If he was interested in video games, you would have supported that?

Because, you are right, it's parental failure that's the problem.

I think your comments are a bit confusing because they mostly seems to blame the tendency for kids to enjoy the fun things, rather than feature the parent's responsibility to regulate those things to an appropriate level.

Valid. Multiple income households are often necessary today, and it isn't just mom & dad both working, it often means second jobs or side hustles in addition to the primary jobs. It leaves kids alone a lot, and when the parents are home, they are too tired to resist.

It's Bread & Circuses, and in the 21st century, screens provide the Circuses.

Parental regulation in the old days was telling kids to get out of the house, and don't come back in until whatever the next meal was. I'd leave on my bike in the morning, with no idea where I was going, so my mom certainly didn't know. Or care. Sometimes I'd come home for lunch, sometimes not. Always home by 5 for dinner, though.

I'd leave on my bike with empty pockets, no money, no ID, no phone, no watch, nothing. If I got thirsty, I'd knock on a door and ask for a glass of water. Or the time. Sometimes a kid would knock on our door and ask for a glass of water. Or the time. And we'd give it to them. That was parental supervision in the old days.

I actually bought a video game console, and we played some. He was in Cub Scouts, and all the kids there were fanatics. They would even have Cub Scout parties where the kids would bring their consoles and favorite games to play, and he couldn't really participate much, because he was the only kid who didn't play video games (I was trying to get them to get together for star-watching parties with telescopes, but they all though that was dumb, including the parents. Scouts has changed a lot). So I tried to encourage him to play, just to be able to relate to these other kids.

He loved Legos, and he loved Star Wars, so I got him a Lego Star Wars game, and he played to the very end, closed it, and walked away. Didn't ask for another one, didn't start looking into what other games they had, etc. Just stopped. I kept playing for a while (I like shoot'em ups like Call of Duty and Medal of Honor), but I like video games too much, I could EASILY get hooked, so I generally avoid them. We still have the console in a box somewhere. I recently asked him if he wanted it, and he said No.

He's always been self-regulating. No drugs, no smoking, no alcohol, no pregnancy scares, nothing. Always chose to hang out with other smart, mature kids (who also weren't into video games or social media either). Hanging with him and his friends was like talking to adults. When I got around other kids his age, I would be startled at how childish they were.

He was pretty much a dream kid, I got super lucky.

Raising kids is easy. Just love what they love, and they'll love you. And if they love you, they'll trust you, and truly understand that you are just trying to help them stay alive, and will mostly cooperate with that agenda.

This story, through your chain of comments, has really gone off the rails from the post topic, that's for sure.

That's what's fun about this, conversations start, and branch off. If it interests you, stick around. If not, move on. That's how Conversations work, vs. Lectures, which I have been known to do, as well.

You say its sarcasm but this is just the sad pathetic truth. Its a win win for everyone you die a patriot reinforcing the narrative.

LOL. There it is.

I knew you were a boomer, but now you've gone an' done boomed.

These proposals were rejected by John f Kennedy, a Democrat

Yeah - JFK was more than happy to commit acts of terrorism against Cuban people, but he drew the line at Americans. Great example of the difference between Democrats and Republicans.

Aw you're right. Golly, I hate democrats so much! I'm going to vote red down the ballot this November. Thanks for clearing that up for us!

Obviously just because the Democrats are evil that doesn't mean you should vote for the more evil party. You should recognize that Democrats aren't the solution to the problem and look for some alternative pathway to real, long-term change. Don't shoot the messenger.

tried everyone with reason

Not a Boomer, but I don't understand how following a conversational thread is "Boomer." Don't you understand how conversations work? When you are with your friends, do you generally declare a topic, then scold them if they wander off topic?

Because that's not how friendly conversations work. You never really know where they'll lead, and that's what's enjoyable about them. The guy sitting at the table and telling people to stay on topic is a real buzzkill, and right now, that's YOU.

Yes, they are currently behind the shitter at Mar-a-Lago

Valid. I labeled it Sarcasm, because I recognize that some people would actually ascribe to that agenda, and I wanted to make sure that nobody thought I was on board with it.

There are lots of good Dems. I bet Bernie wouldn't have authorised that.

And yet, despite having more popular support than Clinton, he did not win the nomination in 2016, which led to the first Trump presidency. Why do you think that was?

Fair. He should have joined PSL.