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Ek-Hou-Van-Braai piefed.social Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social
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mmmm sopuli.xyz mmmm@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-04-07
#2 · (edited) Quote Reply

I'd put Haiku on the extreme top left corner (or in one of the two rows below that first column) since it's based on BeOS - it's a corporate OS wether it exits or not and it intends to replicate said corporate OS. In its place I'd put either TempleOS or Plan9.

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Engywook lemmy.zip Engywuck@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-23
#3 · Quote Reply

Arch isn't hard to install (anymore). It takes 5 minutes with archinstall.

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waz feddit.uk waz@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-06-13
#4 · Quote Reply

linux mint, but Debian edition, i feel is left of the centre split, but only a bit.

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WolfLink sh.itjust.works WolfLink@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2024-06-06
#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

How is Windows less corporate than MacOS or ChromeOS?

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KiwiTB lemmy.world KiwiTB@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-29
#6 · Quote Reply

You call haiku old fashioned.... Linux is based on os design from 30 years before that.

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candyman337 piefed.ca candyman337@piefed.ca
Joined: 2026-02-20
#7 · Quote Reply

How is Windows less corporate than MacOS or ChromeOS?

Based on the image, it seems like the argument is that Windows can be installed on a larger variety of devices than the other two

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pr06lefs lemmy.ml pr06lefs@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2023-07-21
#8 · Quote Reply

where mah nixos

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7EP6vuI feddit.org 7EP6vuI@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-29
#9 · Quote Reply

Based on the image, it seems like the argument is that Windows can be installed on a larger variety of devices than the other two

but then it should be "restricted" at top, and not "corporate"?

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everett lemmy.ml everett@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2021-09-01
#10 · Quote Reply

You call haiku old fashioned.... Linux is based on os design from 30 years before that.

They probably mean in terms of GUI theme.

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Sibbo sopuli.xyz Sibbo@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-06
#11 · Quote Reply

where mah nixos

How about above arch Linux? Or at least in that column. Maybe further down

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KiwiTB lemmy.world KiwiTB@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-03-29
#12 · Quote Reply

They probably mean in terms of GUI theme.

Linux is console first so still doesn't make sense.

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#13 · Quote Reply

How did you miss temple is in the uppermost Right?

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#14 · Quote Reply

Arch isn't hard to install (anymore). It takes 5 minutes with archinstall.

btw

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LifeInMultipleChoice lemmy.dbzer0.com LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-08-12
#15 · Quote Reply

linux mint, but Debian edition, i feel is left of the centre split, but only a bit.

Yeah I don't get what corporate means here. Debian was basically the corporate standard for a long while. Ubuntu was personal use

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Skullgrid lemmy.world Skullgrid@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#16 · Quote Reply

I would replace the political compass colour scheme to avoid confusion. mint , ubuntu and cachy should be the furtherst right. debian should be where mint is, or with fedora one step to the right. windows should be top right.

Add some of the newer distros like steamOs, void linux, etc

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Limitless_screaming kbin.earth Limitless_screaming@kbin.earth
Joined: 2024-12-17
#17 · Quote Reply

Some people don't like snaps

"Some people like snaps" would have been closer to the truth, but it would still be an exaggeration of their numbers.

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driving_crooner lemmy.eco.br driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br
Joined: 2023-06-22
#18 · Quote Reply

CachyOS being the same level as mainstream as Mint and Ubuntu is copium.

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rljkeimig lemmy.world rljkeimig@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-06
#19 · Quote Reply

Some people don't like snaps "Some people like snaps" would have been closer to the truth, but it would still be an exaggeration of their numbers.

I bet Mark Shuttleworth likes Snaps.

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Feyd programming.dev Feyd@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-07-20
#20 · (edited) Quote Reply

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humanamerican lemmy.zip humanamerican@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-04
#21 · Quote Reply

Red Hat is based on Fedora, not the other way around.

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Eager Eagle lemmy.world eager_eagle@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#22 · Quote Reply

Linux is console first so still doesn't make sense.

you're the one comparing it to Linux

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waigl lemmy.world waigl@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#23 · Quote Reply

Add another square at the bottom left of the grid that breaks out of the grid on both directions and contains OpenBSD.

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deadcade lemmy.deadca.de deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de
Joined: 2023-06-06
#24 · Quote Reply

Lots of things wrong with this but one I haven't seen yet is that CachyOS literally depends on ArchLinux, yet is more "independent" than it?

These are terrible axis to try and plot operating systems, and limiting yourself to such low resolution with no overlap doesn't help.

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Hawke lemmy.world Hawke@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#25 · Quote Reply

You call haiku old fashioned.... Linux is based on os design from 30 years before that.

I think it’s a bit different since Haiku is kind of closer to BeOS as frozen in time around 2002, and there’s not a lot of new ground being broken there. Yes, Linux is based on UNIX but there’s been a lot of change since then.

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sepi piefed.social sepi@piefed.social
Joined: 2024-01-27
#26 · Quote Reply

Add snakes. Like a lot of snakes. Like spaghetti. Sssssssssssssss

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warmaster lemmy.world warmaster@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-16
#27 · Quote Reply

Bazzite right of Cachy.

Windows top right

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Fubarberry sopuli.xyz Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-07-19
#28 · Quote Reply

CachyOS being the same level as mainstream as Mint and Ubuntu is copium.

Cachy is growing in popularity a lot. Negative publicity around Ubuntu is driving people to alternatives, and I've heard a lot of people are trying cachy as their first Linux distro.

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AceFuzzLord lemmy.zip AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-19
#29 · Quote Reply

Arch isn't hard to install (anymore). It takes 5 minutes with archinstall.

Helps if you know that command/setup thing/whatever you wanna call it. Otherwise, for someone who doesn't know about it, the process can be pretty painful. Even with the wiki's install instructions I have not been able to install arch the few times I tried in a VM over the past few months.

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NewOldGuard lemmy.ml NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-02-12
#30 · Quote Reply

CachyOS being the same level as mainstream as Mint and Ubuntu is copium.

It’s the most popular single distro on ProtonDB now, so that’s something

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docd lemmy.world docd@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#31 · (edited) Quote Reply

Red Hat is based on Fedora, not the other way around.

You sure about that?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_Linux#%3A~%3Atext=It+was+originally+developed+in+2003+as+a+continuation+of+the+Red+Hat+Linux+project.

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MentalEdge sopuli.xyz MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-06-13
#32 · Quote Reply

Technically, if you stop updating arch when it's in a functional state it'll never break.

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pmk piefed.ca pmk@piefed.ca
Joined: 2025-06-11
#33 · Quote Reply

Yeah I don't get what corporate means here. Debian was basically the corporate standard for a long while. Ubuntu was personal use

Debian is also the opposite of corporate since it's a community project where the community aspect is central with democratic voting and no corporate control.

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Pudutr0n lemmy.world Pudutr0n@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#34 · Quote Reply

omarchy to the left of red hat.

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LifeInMultipleChoice lemmy.dbzer0.com LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-08-12
#35 · (edited) Quote Reply

Debian is also the opposite of corporate since it's a community project where the community aspect is central with democratic voting and no corporate control.

So then why would Microsoft be lower than Chrome or Apple with corporate? I wouldn't say Windows has more democratic voting and less corporate control than them

Also with 70% of computers running windows, the chart would be scaled terribly along the x axis. You would have to shift every Linux to box 1 with chrome, and put Mac in box 2/6

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humanamerican lemmy.zip humanamerican@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-04
#36 · Quote Reply

You sure about that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedora_Linux#%3A~%3Atext=It+was+originally+developed+in+2003+as+a+continuation+of+the+Red+Hat+Linux+project.

From your own link, Fedora:

...is now the upstream source for CentOS Stream and Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

So yes, I'm pretty sure.

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AnUnusualRelic lemmy.world AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#37 · Quote Reply

You forgot SuSE, as usual.

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Pika sh.itjust.works Pika@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-15
#38 · (edited) Quote Reply

Technically, if you stop updating arch when it's in a functional state it'll never break.

agreed. thats where I went wrong with my poor ee-pc. I went 3 years without updating it and it worked like a charm, then decided to try and update it. every source was dead, including the keyring. Manually fixed the ring, half the packages failed to update even with valid sources. Had to disable all package verification.

I then made the mistake of "Well surly a fresh install will be easier than trying to fix this broken mess".... I have not had a functional wifi management service since. None of them support the system anymore as the arch was discontinued officially a few years ago, and the only way I can connect to wifi now is via command line without network memory or saving.

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docd lemmy.world docd@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-02
#39 · Quote Reply

From your own link, Fedora: ...is now the upstream source for CentOS Stream and Red Hat Enterprise Linux. So yes, I'm pretty sure.

I don't think "upstream provider for newer packages" is the same as "based on". Fedora was developed from Red Hat, the image is correct in that sense. You can quote that part of the link but I specifically pointed to " It was originally developed in 2003 as a continuation of the Red Hat Linux project." so based on Red Hat.

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humanamerican lemmy.zip humanamerican@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-08-04
#40 · Quote Reply

I don't think "upstream provider for newer packages" is the same as "based on". Fedora was developed from Red Hat, the image is correct in that sense. You can quote that part of the link but I specifically pointed to " It was originally developed in 2003 as a continuation of the Red Hat Linux project." so based on Red Hat.

Okay buddy

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curbstickle anarchist.nexus curbstickle@anarchist.nexus
Joined: 2025-08-25
#41 · Quote Reply

I bet Mark Shuttleworth likes Snaps.

"A person likes snaps."

There, all covered and more accurate than the original.

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Albbi piefed.ca albbi@piefed.ca
Joined: 2025-06-25
#42 · Quote Reply

Arch also sometimes breaks when you update it.

My proof was dual monitors not working off and on around October last year.

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SolSerkonos piefed.social SolSerkonos@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-07-25
#43 · Quote Reply

I'd put Haiku on the extreme top left corner (or in one of the two rows below that first column) since it's based on BeOS - it's a corporate OS wether it exits or not and it intends to replicate said corporate OS. In its place I'd put either TempleOS or Plan9.

TempleOS. Oh jeez it's been awhile since I've heard that.

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FishFace piefed.social FishFace@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-10-16
#44 · Quote Reply

implying that Arch is niche at this point

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ryannathans aussie.zone ryannathans@aussie.zone
Joined: 2023-09-20
#45 · Quote Reply

A lot of FreeBSD development is done by companies like Netflix, who use FreeBSD for their edge catching due to its performance and simplicity advantage over Linux

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grue lemmy.world grue@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

I would flip the whole chart diagonally so it lines up better with the political compass. I'd equate "corporate" with "right" instead of "authoritarian," and "niche" with "libertarian" instead of "left." Also, I would replace "independent" with "community/nonprofit."

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Turret3857 infosec.pub Turret3857@infosec.pub
Joined: 2024-10-09
#47 · Quote Reply

I don't think "upstream provider for newer packages" is the same as "based on". Fedora was developed from Red Hat, the image is correct in that sense. You can quote that part of the link but I specifically pointed to " It was originally developed in 2003 as a continuation of the Red Hat Linux project." so based on Red Hat.

Read the paragraph again. This time with your eyes.

It was originally developed in 2003 as a continuation of the Red Hat Linux project... It is now the upstream source for CentOS Stream and Red Hat Enterprise Linux.

Did you notice how it says "Red Hat Linux Project" and then goes on to say "Red Hat Enterprise Linux"?

This is because RHL != RHEL.

From the Hyperlink on the Wikipedia page for RHL:

Red Hat Linux was a widely used commercial open-source Linux distribution created by Red Hat until its discontinuation in 2004.

OP is correct. You are mistaken for thinking RHL was RHEL. It is not.

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OwOarchist pawb.social OwOarchist@pawb.social
Joined: 2026-02-13
#48 · Quote Reply

Windows is less corporate than MacOS?

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Ada lemmy.blahaj.zone ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-01-02
#49 · Quote Reply

Why is Cachy more independent than Arch?

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OwOarchist pawb.social OwOarchist@pawb.social
Joined: 2026-02-13
#50 · Quote Reply

Some people don't like snaps "Some people like snaps" would have been closer to the truth, but it would still be an exaggeration of their numbers.

You know what? I know they're far from the ideal solution, but I have installed a few things with snaps ... and it was fine. It worked seamlessly and painlessly (in some instances).

Generally, I'd prefer other ways to install, but snaps aren't the end of the world.

(This concludes my hot take of the day.)

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OwOarchist pawb.social OwOarchist@pawb.social
Joined: 2026-02-13
#51 · Quote Reply

You forgot SuSE, as usual.

SuSE too niche to even show up on this chart.

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