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mojofrododojo lemmy.world mojofrododojo@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-25
#52 · Quote Reply

Cunt.

he lacks the depth, warmth or utility.

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100_kg_90_de_belin feddit.it 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it
Joined: 2023-06-10
#53 · Quote Reply

If we ate just one techbro the other ones would fall in line pretty quickly

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Default Username lemmy.dbzer0.com defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-12
#54 · Quote Reply

Silicon valley was a huge source of revenue for America... And when you have one industry, or a bunch of individuals making all the money - it risks authoritarianism capture of democracy.

That's just capitalism working as intended.

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shaun lemmy.world shaun@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-08
#55 · (edited) Quote Reply

Idk maybe we should do something about this man.

He's not efficient enough for current construct. Exterminate!

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Pat_Riot lemmy.today Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-09-29
#56 · Quote Reply

If we ate just one techbro the other ones would fall in line pretty quickly

We should just eat them all. They stopped contributing anything of value years ago.

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kbobabob lemmy.dbzer0.com kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-15
#57 · Quote Reply

I wonder why nobody has Mangione'd those filthy millionaires yet.

I have no idea why people keep using an innocent man's name to talk about murdering people.

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Pat_Riot lemmy.today Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-09-29
#58 · Quote Reply

The humans still exist and need food, even if they are replaced by chatbots in the workforce. The comparison is therefore useless, unless you plan to murder the unemployed.

To save the working man, you've got to put him out to pasture

                 Soup us Good Food - Dead Kennedys 
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IratePirate feddit.org IratePirate@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-02-02
#59 · (edited) Quote Reply

The humans still exist and need food, even if they are replaced by chatbots in the workforce. The comparison is therefore useless, unless you plan to murder the unemployed.

unless you plan to murder the unemployed.

Well, that's precisely what some of the Trump-aligned fascists are suggesting on live television.

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Scrollone feddit.it Scrollone@feddit.it
Joined: 2023-06-03
#60 · Quote Reply

I have no idea why people keep using an innocent man's name to talk about murdering people.

He didn't do anything, so saying that you Mangione someone it means you don't do anything with him =]

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Corkyskog sh.itjust.works Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-12
#61 · Quote Reply

We should just eat them all. They stopped contributing anything of value years ago.

Idk man, I am really scared of prion diseases.

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x00z lemmy.world x00z@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-26
#62 · Quote Reply

If we ate just one techbro the other ones would fall in line pretty quickly

A good ol' public hanging.

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qualia lemmy.world qualia@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-11-05
#63 · Quote Reply

Chatbots aren't the endpoint tho, AGI and ASI are. Imagine a future where we could disseminate custom AIs to teach kids exactly in their unique contexts. Education could be throttled and specialized according to everyone's aptitudes.

And if the people are able to decide what future ASIs work on we could focus on massive healthcare, leading to inevitable healthspan extension. Then the rate at which we have to replace our population (and the associated spending of 20 years reteaching intelligent citizens) would be reduced as a consequence.

AI is just a tool. Tools are never rolled back, at most they're only regulated. Why not make the best of our future with this powerful tool? Just because billionaires are getting the headlines, most of the progress is being done in academia. Maybe AI will even help facilitate reduced wealth inequality.

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Pat_Riot lemmy.today Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-09-29
#64 · Quote Reply

Idk man, I am really scared of prion diseases.

So don't eat the brains. Those are rotten anyway.

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matlag sh.itjust.works matlag@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-01
#65 · Quote Reply

Isn’t the key thing here the idea that economics, machinery etc are there to serve or support humans? It seems that the rich and the Techbros are of the opposite opinion.

You think he would oppose a massive genocide of 99.9% of humanity if he could get an army of robots to sérve him in his new world?

Think again!

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rustydrd sh.itjust.works rustydrd@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-07
#66 · Quote Reply

Sam Altman is right. In fact, when you think about it, humans also give off lots of excess energy in the form of body heat, and it is only logical that this energy would be harvested to make AI run more efficiently. AI gives humans so much, it's only fair if they give something back.

/s

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matlag sh.itjust.works matlag@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-01
#67 · Quote Reply

I really wish Sam Altman would treat himself with the dignity and efficiency he wants to treat us with. The ideology of evil eugenicists didn't die with Hitler, and they didn't die with Epstein either.

He will probably claim to work a gazillion hours a week with an unrivaled efficiency, making him one of the most productive humans on Earth. Because these people are not just sociopaths, they're also completely delusional about their intelligence and true worth, out of money worth.

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puchaczyk lemmy.world puchaczyk@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-22
#68 · Quote Reply

If we ate just one techbro the other ones would fall in line pretty quickly

If you eat one techbro, you consume about 300,000 kcal, which is significantly more energy than it takes to ask chatGPT one question. So who is more energy efficient, AI-atheists? /s

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T00l_shed lemmy.world T00l_shed@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-27
#69 · Quote Reply

Hey Sam where did chat gpt get that information to plagiarize from?

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cøre leminal.space core@leminal.space
Joined: 2025-10-26
#70 · Quote Reply

Chatbots aren't the endpoint tho, AGI and ASI are. Imagine a future where we could disseminate custom AIs to teach kids exactly in their unique contexts. Education could be throttled and specialized according to everyone's aptitudes. And if the people are able to decide what future ASIs work on we could focus on massive healthcare, leading to inevitable healthspan extension. Then the rate at wh...

That assumes the AGI/ASI doesn't have gates keeping it from people.
Sorry you only get the basic model b/c you can't afford it something better.
An open, free, equally accessible AI for everyone no matter what is just not how capitalism works.

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django discuss.tchncs.de django@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-05
#71 · Quote Reply

...we should eat them.

I'd prefer composting and growing veggies.

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humanspiral lemmy.ca humanspiral@lemmy.ca
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#72 · Quote Reply

The worst of it is how human existance makes electricity and RAM more expensive for AI. Hard reality check soon.

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rarbg lemmy.zip rarbg@lemmy.zip
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#73 · Quote Reply

If you eat one techbro, you consume about 300,000 kcal, which is significantly more energy than it takes to ask chatGPT one question. So who is more energy efficient, AI-atheists? /s

Why /s

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AeonFelis lemmy.world AeonFelis@lemmy.world
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#74 · Quote Reply

The proper response to dystopian prophecies is not "challenge accepted"!

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boaratio lemmy.world boaratio@lemmy.world
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#75 · Quote Reply

Applebottom jeans and the boots with fir. Robot raises arm and all the servos go whirr.

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brokenwing discuss.tchncs.de brokenwing@discuss.tchncs.de
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#76 · Quote Reply

How about he replace his role with an llm?

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cally [he/they] pawb.social callyral@pawb.social
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#77 · Quote Reply

Why /s

To make it clear that it's sarcasm

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Cethin lemmy.zip Cethin@lemmy.zip
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#78 · (edited) Quote Reply

I have no idea why people keep using an innocent man's name to talk about murdering people.

Well, they're trying to kill him (Luigi), so that's a valid interpretation.

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supersquirrel sopuli.xyz supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2023-12-09
#79 · Quote Reply

The humans still exist and need food, even if they are replaced by chatbots in the workforce. The comparison is therefore useless, unless you plan to murder the unemployed.

I don't but the police work for me since I am a billionaire and they can murder the unemployed for me!

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Rose slrpnk.net umbraroze@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2023-09-18
#80 · Quote Reply

Oh good, the Bitcoin argument.

"Sure, Bitcoin wastes a lot of energy, but you know what else wastes energy? The Visa payment network."

Yeah, but Visa handles six quadrispillion transactions per megawatthour, Bitcoin handles two drug purchases. Not the same results, is it?

So yeah, training humans takes a lot of energy. But in the end, you get a coherent, capable and well functioning individual. Spend the same energy on training LLMs and you get a system that'll happily tell you to glue the cheese on pizza or something.

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Pricklesthemagicfish reddthat.com Pricklesthemagicfish@reddthat.com
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#81 · Quote Reply

Oh good, the Bitcoin argument. "Sure, Bitcoin wastes a lot of energy, but you know what else wastes energy? The Visa payment network." Yeah, but Visa handles six quadrispillion transactions per megawatthour, Bitcoin handles two drug purchases. Not the same results, is it? So yeah, training humans takes a lot of energy. But in the end, you get a coherent, capable and well functioning individual....

Yeah because nobody drugs with any other method than bitcoin. Clutch those pearls harder while you wash down your leagal and totally not drugs pharmaceutical pills and alcohol.

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-23
#82 · Quote Reply

He will probably claim to work a gazillion hours a week with an unrivaled efficiency, making him one of the most productive humans on Earth. Because these people are not just sociopaths, they're also completely delusional about their intelligence and true worth, out of money worth.

You're right. I forgot that AI people had that mindset. A dangerous thing to forget, because people like that will literally descend into an ideology that believes you can kill others if they inconvenience you.

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thedeadwalking4242 lemmy.world thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-10
#83 · Quote Reply

LLMs are trained on the sum of human knowledge. So that same exact burden is carried by your "AI".

So a couple of watts per day of energy spent by a human brain compared to the gigawatts it takes to train and run your shitty text prediction engine is not equivalent.

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OctopusNemeses lemmy.world OctopusNemeses@lemmy.world
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#84 · (edited) Quote Reply

Tech bros deal in false equivalencies. In general they rely on the playbook of logical fallacies. The one they rely on most is the presumption that the technology they're trying to sell is correct by default as if it's a fundamental law of the universe. And that the onus is on others to prove them wrong. Rather than them having to prove its correctness.

They often resort to ad hominem by implying their detractors lack intelligence or they're emotional. This again draws on more logical fallacy that because they deal in technology it means they presume to own the position of being purely objective and correct by default. So anyone who says otherwise is disputing science itself.

In other words they never have to prove the veracity of the technology they're trying to sell because they divert the discourse off topic to frivolous arguments about something else.

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vane lemmy.world vane@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-26
#85 · Quote Reply

You said so ? Now go blow Arab dicks for oil money.

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-12-31
#86 · Quote Reply

before you get smart

Something he never did, apparently

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
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#87 · Quote Reply

Chatbots aren't the endpoint tho, AGI and ASI are. Imagine a future where we could disseminate custom AIs to teach kids exactly in their unique contexts. Education could be throttled and specialized according to everyone's aptitudes. And if the people are able to decide what future ASIs work on we could focus on massive healthcare, leading to inevitable healthspan extension. Then the rate at wh...

Take off your rose-colored glasses. The billionaires control the implementation, and they don't care about universal healthcare or education, and certainly not reducing wealth inequality.

Also, LLMs will never evolve into AGI, because they're fundamentally different processes. The human brain has many parts, and the Broca's area is a very small part that cannot generalize its functions to perform the tasks of all the other areas of the brain.

And ASI is pure scifi. Circuits will never be sentient, the best they can ever do is mimic sentiency.

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-12-31
#88 · Quote Reply

Applebottom jeans and the boots with fir. Robot raises arm and all the servos go whirr.

It hit the floor, it made some noise. Robby got low, low, low, low, low, low, low

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-12-31
#89 · Quote Reply

How about he replace his role with an llm?

All he does is talk out his ass and mislead investors. They can certainly perform those functions!

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wonderingwanderer sopuli.xyz wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
Joined: 2025-12-31
#90 · Quote Reply

So in his view, the fair comparison is, “If you ask ChatGPT a question, how much energy does it take once its model is trained to answer that question versus a human? And probably, AI has already caught up on an energy efficiency basis, measured that way.” How about we do a life-cycle assessment instead.

His statement is so deliberately misleading, it's disgusting.

"In the four years that they've been mainstream, our machines haven't consumed as much energy as all of humanity has over millions of years of evolution. Gotcha, naysayers!"

And he has such a punchable face. I don't usually say that, but he does.

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Marshezezz lemmy.blahaj.zone Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#91 · Quote Reply

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Geth lemmy.dbzer0.com Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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#92 · Quote Reply

Oh good, the Bitcoin argument. "Sure, Bitcoin wastes a lot of energy, but you know what else wastes energy? The Visa payment network." Yeah, but Visa handles six quadrispillion transactions per megawatthour, Bitcoin handles two drug purchases. Not the same results, is it? So yeah, training humans takes a lot of energy. But in the end, you get a coherent, capable and well functioning individual....

Not trying to defend the idiotic argument, but feels like more often than not the human output is not what I would call coherent, capable and well functioning.

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GreenKnight23 lemmy.world GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
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#93 · Quote Reply

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with the right funding it could...but where could we get all that money 🤔

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gigajhand lemmy.ml gigajhand@lemmy.ml
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#94 · Quote Reply

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it does bro, no worries

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Whats_your_reasoning lemmy.world Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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#95 · Quote Reply

with the right funding it could...but where could we get all that money 🤔

I bet we could get a lot of volunteers if the objective is “building a literal Hell for billionaires.”

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gigajhand lemmy.ml gigajhand@lemmy.ml
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#96 · Quote Reply

A good ol' public hanging.

hanging is too straightforward

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gigajhand lemmy.ml gigajhand@lemmy.ml
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#97 · Quote Reply

I'd prefer composting and growing veggies.

you sure any veggies would be able to grow?

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pjwestin lemmy.world pjwestin@lemmy.world
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#98 · (edited) Quote Reply

Someone on Bluesky pointed out that, even if you ignore the morality of this argument, AI is trained on human content, so if we're going to start examining the human energy cost, we'll have to factor in the cost of every single human whose work was used by ChatGPT on top of the data center costs.

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gigajhand lemmy.ml gigajhand@lemmy.ml
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#99 · Quote Reply

train a human This guy has the same level of empathy as Zuck.

dystopian novel type shit

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gigajhand lemmy.ml gigajhand@lemmy.ml
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#100 · Quote Reply

Train him?

lmao best comment ever

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gigajhand lemmy.ml gigajhand@lemmy.ml
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#101 · Quote Reply

Sam needs training too.

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