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Across the US, people are dismantling and destroying Flock surveillance cameras. Anger over ICE connections and privacy violations is fueling the sabotage.
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modus lemmy.world modus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#152 · Quote Reply

Be aware brake fluid is like antifreeze, it tastes good to animals if they don't put bad taste in it, and kills them.

They're dying for an honorable cause. /s

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modus lemmy.world modus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#153 · Quote Reply

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What would brake fluid do?

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thlibos thelemmy.club thlibos@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-01-30
#154 · Quote Reply

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Do comments around here get disappeared or hidden if they get enough downvotes? If not, then I could give two fucks whether a comment gets 1 downvote or 100.

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thlibos thelemmy.club thlibos@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-01-30
#155 · Quote Reply

Agreed. To do properly, you would probably want a verified screen room / faraday cage room. What they use for professional EMC testing. Might be able to jerry rig one I guess, but you'd want to test it for leaks if personal safety is on the line.

Thank you for saying "jerry rig" and not "jury rig". I looselose my shit everytime I "hear it".

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Earthman_Jim lemmy.zip Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-12-28
#156 · Quote Reply

Heartwarming.

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mrpollo lemmy.zip mrpollo@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-07
#157 · Quote Reply

Good. We need to teach these pigs a lesson

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pseudo jlai.lu pseudo@jlai.lu
Joined: 2023-07-07
#158 · Quote Reply

I think >50% of my up votes are me swiping right to go back but missing the screen border by a tiny bit, causing the jerboa swipe to vote to kick in. so who knows, maybe they just accidentally hit the downvote arrow while scrolling?

Sometimes my big finger hit the wrong button.

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dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️ lemmy.world dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-20
#159 · Quote Reply

Would a pellet gun be powerful enough to damage the lens from a distance?

Some of them certainly are. You can also get air rifles with built in "moderators" (i.e. suppressors) that are surprisingly quiet. Precharged pneumatic air rifles can be very powerful and also extremely accurate. I have a relatively cheap Hatsan that can, provided I'm using pellets that it likes, repeatably put pellets through the same hole in my target from as far away as I can get from it in my yard (probably about 20 yards) and do so about 30 times in succession before I have to pump it back up again. Its built in moderator makes it quiet enough at the muzzle that the sound of the hammer hitting the gas valve is actually louder than the report from firing.

Watch out: Researching this type of thing may send you tumbling down the rabbit hole of big bore air rifles and entice you to spend a lot of money. Don't say I didn't warn you...

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dependencyinjection discuss.tchncs.de dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-10-20
#160 · Quote Reply

Enough with the sass

As I’ve got to dash

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SubUrbanIT lemmy.world SubUrbanIT@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-10-31
#161 · Quote Reply

guessing because it goes through the sprayer

Thins the paint's viscosity down maybe?

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Newsteinleo infosec.pub Newsteinleo@infosec.pub
Joined: 2025-02-21
#162 · Quote Reply

How would I go about finding a Flock camera?

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CADmonkey lemmy.world CADmonkey@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#163 · Quote Reply

How would I go about finding a Flock camera?

Deflock.me

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M137 lemmy.world M137@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-09-05
#164 · Quote Reply

Paint ball guns with permanent ink ammunition works too.

Waaaaay easier and cheaper to replace the lenses than a whole pole, including everything that was on it. And I think an angle grinder with some disks would cost about as much as a paintball gun with permanent ink ammo, and the former being much more bang for your buck in terms of damage done and also use other than for this.

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Mwa thelemmy.club Mwa@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-06-27
#165 · Quote Reply

based

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CADmonkey lemmy.world CADmonkey@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#166 · Quote Reply

Some of them certainly are. You can also get air rifles with built in "moderators" (i.e. suppressors) that are surprisingly quiet. Precharged pneumatic air rifles can be very powerful and also extremely accurate. I have a relatively cheap Hatsan that can, provided I'm using pellets that it likes, repeatably put pellets through the same hole in my target from as far away as I can get from it in ...

Big bore pcp air guns - for those who like things that go fwump.

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wampus lemmy.ca wampus@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-09
#167 · Quote Reply

This behavior from companies is so predictable that I'm perpetually disappointed in my fellow human beings for ever buying this equipment.

People want surveillance options. One of the highest/most obvious features required, unsurprisingly, is the ability to see your cameras on your smart phone -- which generally means you need a Smartphone App + a centralised server/system connecting the different ends. The alternative being that end users would likely need static IP addresses / Dynamic DNS setups to have a Smartphone app point "directly" to their exposed CCTV ports -- which I don't imagine regular consumers are keen on, likely why basically no such options seem to exist in the retail space (afaik - if there are widely used brands i dont know about, by all means clue me in).

Options that are fully local/closed/under user control, are almost impossible to find. This isn't so much a consumer-specific problem, from my perspective, at this point -- there aren't enough options for consumers to choose differently. It's sorta like how you're generally 'stuck' with US-tethered Smartphones. It's not so much a 'choice' that consumers get to make, as it is that these big businesses have effective monopolies and consumers are stuck.

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muusemuuse sh.itjust.works muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-25
#168 · Quote Reply

Yeah, I was actually thinking about acquiring one myself. I want to dissect it, hook it up to some monitoring equipment/ software, see what I can learn about it… functionality, vulnerability, anything. But I’m also worried about the potential I accidentally show up on a video feed stored somewhere remote. I’ve been checking eBay for them, but honestly… there are several right by my home. We’ll ...

They’ve already been analyzed and their security is atrocious. It’s ancient android nonsense. It’s theoretically possible to break into the wirelessly, that’s how bad these are.

The whole thing is about grabbing as much data as fast as thy can. There’s damn near nothing keeping it restricted or secure. Might as well be an open IP cam on the internet.

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muusemuuse sh.itjust.works muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-25
#169 · (edited) Quote Reply

They sell battery powered angle grinders at Harbour Freight.

You can get the same thing cheaper via Craigslist and they’ll have a harder time tracing ownership. A crackhead hawking stolen hardware store crap is not going to really be as helpful to the surveillance state as they’d like.

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muusemuuse sh.itjust.works muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-25
#170 · Quote Reply

This is exactly what this company deserves, to be smashed out of business and history. Reminder: If you destroy a camera, be aware that other cameras in the area may be recording you as well. Protect your identity.

That’s why you do this as part of a massive crowd of people that don’t know eachother. Overwhelm them.

Bring laser pointers to protests

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HugeNerd lemmy.ca HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-06
#171 · Quote Reply

https://youtu.be/HasaQvHCv4w

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HugeNerd lemmy.ca HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-06
#172 · Quote Reply

You most definatly shouldent make a cell phone app that you can put in front of the camera that just cycles through random plates and includes copies of conststution. I wonder if you can do 10 per second. 36000 per hour all day long.

https://www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/

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korazail lemmy.myserv.one korazail@lemmy.myserv.one
Joined: 2023-08-03
#173 · Quote Reply

Good. We need to teach these pigs a lesson

The fun part is that these cameras are not owned, operated or property of your local jurisdiction. They are hardware/software as a service. IANAL, but I think Flock would have to sue you.

I have not personally de-flocked anything, but my local area doesn't have any that aren't tied to a business parking lot.

If some show up, I can't imagine a 5 minute walk with a hat, face mask and a can of spraypaint wouldn't be sufficient to disable one without risk. Might need a stool.

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Yankee_Self_Loader lemmy.world Yankee_Self_Loader@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-08
#174 · Quote Reply

As I’ve got to dash

Hit the gas!

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kender242 lemmy.world kender242@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#175 · (edited) Quote Reply

https://www.d-e-f-i-n-i-t-e-l-y.com/

Nice catch, defiantly kinda (almost) works here too... 😤

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Randomgal lemmy.ca Randomgal@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2024-01-17
#176 · Quote Reply

They give zero fucks about you doing that. Sue them instead. And recycle that shit.

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Manifish_Destiny lemmy.world Manifish_Destiny@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-16
#177 · Quote Reply

Hell yeah brother

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maplesaga lemmy.world maplesaga@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-11-30
#178 · Quote Reply

Just like everyone is quitting facebook, ChatGPT, and all the other things people are boycotting that seem to never have anything happen to them.

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NatakuNox lemmy.world NatakuNox@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#179 · Quote Reply

Waaaaay easier and cheaper to replace the lenses than a whole pole, including everything that was on it. And I think an angle grinder with some disks would cost about as much as a paintball gun with permanent ink ammo, and the former being much more bang for your buck in terms of damage done and also use other than for this.

But the way this are repaired and replaced, one ability to damage or obstructe the camera quickly and without being noticed is going to be the most important thing. Ankle grinding on a poll for 2 min isn't ideal. What is the camera isn't mounted on a poll? The result is going to be a technician coming out and installing a new camera. Swing back around a couple well placed shots from 50 years away. Beats having to spend another 2min with a grinder.

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HugeNerd lemmy.ca HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-03-06
#180 · Quote Reply

Nice catch, defiantly kinda (almost) works here too... 😤

Don't be rediculous.

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NatakuNox lemmy.world NatakuNox@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#181 · Quote Reply

i prefer the one in the picture by a commentor, permanently remove the flock camera.

Permanently remove that camera. They can always put up another. Inking the leanse or dome will still require I new camera installed. Actually shooting the camera with a real gun is probably the best option.

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null lemmy.org null@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-02-21
#182 · Quote Reply

Just like everyone is quitting facebook, ChatGPT, and all the other things people are boycotting that seem to never have anything happen to them.

Already deleted my FB. Instagram is getting close with how many "suggested" posts they cram into my feed that should be just my friends.

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matlag sh.itjust.works matlag@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-01
#183 · Quote Reply

Already deleted my FB. Instagram is getting close with how many "suggested" posts they cram into my feed that should be just my friends.

Not sure the lemmy crowd is representative of the general public trends.

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Leesi lemmy.blahaj.zone Leesi@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-05-13
#184 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Yep and don't forget people, those stray reflections may not only be hitting you. Be aware of your surroundings.

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njordomir lemmy.world njordomir@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#185 · Quote Reply

I vandalized my own Ring cameras. It didn't feel right to resell them just so they can spy on me from someone else's front porch.

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nutsack lemmy.dbzer0.com nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-20
#186 · Quote Reply

Thins the paint's viscosity down maybe?

I don't know. I'm not a wizard

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zourn lemmy.world zourn@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
#187 · Quote Reply

Thank you for saying "jerry rig" and not "jury rig". I looselose my shit everytime I "hear it".

Why would you get upset at jury rig? It's the original term and older than jerry rig.

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null lemmy.org null@lemmy.org
Joined: 2026-02-21
#188 · Quote Reply

Not sure the lemmy crowd is representative of the general public trends.

Most likely not.

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Slovene feddit.nl Slovene@feddit.nl
Joined: 2023-07-12
#189 · Quote Reply

Deflock.me

What are the chances that it's NOT a porn site?

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CADmonkey lemmy.world CADmonkey@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#190 · Quote Reply

A city near me has installed a device that tracks vehicles based on their tpms (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) sensors.

All cars after 2008 in the US have TPMS. Inside the tire, integrated with the vale stem, are little pressure sensors with a radio that broadcasts on the 315Mhz band. Each one uses a slightly different frequency so that your vehicle can tell which of the four tires is low.

So each vehicle in the US made after 2008 has four unique radio signals being broadcast from it, and now there are police departments with equipment that can track those signals, and can assign each car a signature based on the frequencies the sensors are broadcasting on.

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CADmonkey lemmy.world CADmonkey@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#191 · Quote Reply

What are the chances that it's NOT a porn site?

Be brave, my random Internet friend. Click the link. It's either the info you want, or it's titties.

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chiliedogg lemmy.world chiliedogg@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-26
#192 · (edited) Quote Reply

What are the chances that it's NOT a porn site?

I suppose we could make Flock feeds into porn sites...

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yeehaw lemmy.ca cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-08-09
#193 · Quote Reply

A city near me has installed a device that tracks vehicles based on their tpms (Tire Pressure Monitoring System) sensors. All cars after 2008 in the US have TPMS. Inside the tire, integrated with the vale stem, are little pressure sensors with a radio that broadcasts on the 315Mhz band. Each one uses a slightly different frequency so that your vehicle can tell which of the four tires is low. So...

That's alarming, but how much can these really vary? I'd be surprised if a lot of vehicles weren't the same.

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yeehaw lemmy.ca cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-08-09
#194 · Quote Reply

Good. We need to teach these pigs a lesson

The shitty part is it's your tax dollars you're smashing, but you'd think they'd get the hint and just give up on it.

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jaschen306 sh.itjust.works jaschen306@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-06-09
#195 · Quote Reply

Some of them certainly are. You can also get air rifles with built in "moderators" (i.e. suppressors) that are surprisingly quiet. Precharged pneumatic air rifles can be very powerful and also extremely accurate. I have a relatively cheap Hatsan that can, provided I'm using pellets that it likes, repeatably put pellets through the same hole in my target from as far away as I can get from it in ...

Oh man. Silent rifle that can damage those cameras from 20 yards. Wow.

Hm... Does anyone know if the glass it uses is tough like gorilla glass?

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minorkeys lemmy.world minorkeys@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-12
#196 · Quote Reply

People want surveillance options. One of the highest/most obvious features required, unsurprisingly, is the ability to see your cameras on your smart phone -- which generally means you need a Smartphone App + a centralised server/system connecting the different ends. The alternative being that end users would likely need static IP addresses / Dynamic DNS setups to have a Smartphone app point "d...

Sacrificing what you want is the option.

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iglou programming.dev iglou@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-05-12
#197 · (edited) Quote Reply

That's alarming, but how much can these really vary? I'd be surprised if a lot of vehicles weren't the same.

Well, from my knowledge, the person you replied to is inaccurate. All tires will transmit at the same frequency. But every X seconds, when each tire transmits its data, it transmits an ID unique to its transmitter with it.

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wookiepedia lemmy.world wookiepedia@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#198 · Quote Reply

In reply to an earlier post

Brake fluid would etch the glass of the lenses. Cleaning the surface wouldn't return the camera to service. Better than paint would be any other substance to thin out the brake fluid for application, particularly if it were less noticeable than paint. That would cause the repair order to come in from lost data collection rather than a report of vandalism, denying them creeping time and that sweet, sweet data. Definitely don't do that.

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Newsteinleo infosec.pub Newsteinleo@infosec.pub
Joined: 2025-02-21
#199 · Quote Reply

Be brave, my random Internet friend. Click the link. It's either the info you want, or it's titties.

I was sorely disappointed to learn that the site did contain titties

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dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️ lemmy.world dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-20
#200 · Quote Reply

Well, from my knowledge, the person you replied to is inaccurate. All tires will transmit at the same frequency. But every X seconds, when each tire transmits its data, it transmits an ID unique to its transmitter with it.

Every X seconds is pretty generous. My Subaru only seems to poll the sensors every few minutes, and only when the wheel speed is above 35 MPH or so, at least via what I've observed with my diagnostic tool. The sensors are battery powered and I suspect the low refresh rate is a deliberate gambit to conserve battery life.

You are correct on the ID point, though. They can contain up to 16 hexidecimal digits as far as I've seen, and while there doesn't seem to be any mechanism for truly enforcing uniqueness the chances of an ID collision are so low that you may as well consider it impossible. Some aftermarket sensors can be wirelessly reprogrammed with an arbitrary ID, though, which may be of marginal utility for the truly paranoid. (My diagnostic tool can do this, too. The intended use case is cloning the ID from an OEM sensor for a car whose TPMS relearn procedure is more trouble than it's worth.)

Regardless of your vehicle's polling frequency, most sensors can be woken up any time by a specific radio pulse, which my diagnostic tool can also do, and the range is surprisingly long. Just my car's own BMS where the receiver is (above the rear left wheel well) can pick up the sensors in my snow tire rims even when said rims are sitting in their storage rack inside my garage, about three car lengths away.

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dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️ lemmy.world dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-20
#201 · Quote Reply

People want surveillance options. One of the highest/most obvious features required, unsurprisingly, is the ability to see your cameras on your smart phone -- which generally means you need a Smartphone App + a centralised server/system connecting the different ends. The alternative being that end users would likely need static IP addresses / Dynamic DNS setups to have a Smartphone app point "d...

What you described as impossible to find is how basically every security DVR system has worked for decades. I have two Lorex branded boxes at work and a Night Owl one at home, and neither of them require anyone's "cloud."

They're remotely accessible via your browser or a smartphone app although, yes, you do need to know your public facing IP address and poke the appropriate hole in your firewall for it.

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