next time I hear "there is just too many (brown) people" i swear

I honestly have to wonder at what point people will collectively say "why the hell are we letting them do this" ? Not sure what happens after that, but it seems like it must have to happen at some point, right? Right?

Yeah, kinda like that time Brian Thompson got shot, and the next day United Healthcare ceased to exist.

Not saying that the general point of corporations doing more harm than people is wrong. Just that if you think that the corporation is just one person, I've got a bridge to sell you.

Never underestimate the power of inertia. Some people live their entire lives on it.

There are many bankers and investment funds' CEOs and owners we probably don't know the names of that are also funding the end of the world because of profit

Yup. After 9/11 for a while it seemed every week or two the news would report that "The leader of Al Qaeda" had just been killed or captured. Not a false statement, yet it happened again the next week.

Still wrong, it's capitalism. Without them, there would be different people in the same position. Hate the game, not the player. Well, hate the game and the player but don't expect change from exchanging the player

The way in which Luigi was arrested is part of their safety checks. A way to motivate working class to turn people in, without paying them. I generally thought reward money worked.

I learned it did not work from a podcast that no longer exists. Michael Bazzel’s OSINT podcast talked about it within the context of people who used OSINT to find people on wanted lists and how reward money collection actually works. (Podcast doesn’t exist any more, the copies of the casts went away with the podcast.). Sadly, there’s no replacement for this type of news and info condensed down into one place. It’s also a niche area of information, not followed by many.

Those McDonald's workers were not paid for turning Luigi in. But they thought they would be.

Even so, look at the bigger picture. How many Luigi’s have there been since 1981?

Most people avoid confrontation, spending most of their days sitting in a chair or lying down, and thinking/hoping/wishing a white knight is going to rescue them from their situation. It’s one reason why so many people exist in bad relationships (1 or a chain of them). Because they think that other person is going to rescue them from their sad days of avoiding confrontation while sitting in a chair or lying down, most of the day for most of their days. Hoping. But never doing. Thinking about doing. Maybe spouting off on the internet about doing. But never doing.

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if that continues to happen, trust me, eventually none of these fuckers will be left in line.

I would get banned on Reddit if I said what I wanted to say about this situation, would I get banned here too?

Because the people in positions to do something about it get paid by the evil doers to make sure business is as usual

Recycling is a con to make you feel guilty and let Chevron off the hook.

What's your best, longest-lived example of a society without capitalism? Do you have any?

By capitalism, I mean

"private individuals or companies that own and control businesses and property", the simplest definition of capitalism

So you're saying me taking out some replaceable oil execs is going to make people have less demand for oil and everything that comes from it?

Solar energy used to be a similar con and look at it now.

How was solar a con? It produced energy, as intended. It's gotten gradually even better at producing energy through better photovotaics, batteries, molten salt concentrated solar, and kinetic batteries (pumping water uphill during the day, running electro-hydralic power generation at night). But it was never a lie.

Plastic was never recyclable. It's been burned in the open air in China and Indoneisa ab initio.

You can argue that glass, cardboard, and aluminum can be effectively recycled, but in the context of climate change and fossil fuels, we are taking about petroleum-based plastics. There are too many different kinds of plastic and the cost of recycling versus the cost of new material meant recycling was a chimera from the beginning.

But there isn't a "demand" at least not as much as years ago. We are trying to switch to renewables but the oil execs keep killing the renewable progress. The horse fucker in the white house won't let us move on. He kills wind and solar and forces the coal plants to stay open.

Luigi Luigi Luigi...

find people on wanted lists and how reward money collection actually works

How does it actually work?

Capitalism was literally invented in the last few hundred years.

They aren't talking about expecting change. They are talking about demanding change at gunpoint, and honestly I can't say I'm entirely opposed.

These people are completely unaffected by the law or any other form of consequences. They have removed our capability to peacefully take action, but the less-peaceful option is always there and there are legions more of us.

By that definition, Roman Empire? Which lasted pretty damn long, by similar methods. Imperialism. A government that has at least a veneer of responsibility to the populace.

I mean there's big differences, but more similarities imo.

And that horse fucker won more votes than Kamala.

There's a whole party where resistance to green tech is one of the items of faith, hundreds of millions of people. Not just a handful of oil execs. (And yknow, the millions who still use gasoline in their cars etc.)

Edit: That's not to mention all those who like to fly places.

And every year they gather in one specific location in Switzerland called Davos.

any socialist society will be inherently disadvantaged by the fact that the global hegemon, the USA, is hellbent on destroying them. so, given that, maybe the soviet union? china? they certainly aren't perfect, soviet union especially, but any future socialist project can (and should) learn from their successes and mistakes

There is also a societal dependance on some of the status quo. The bigger issue is how hard they actively resist the change. A lot of places still rely on trucking at a minimum to fill the groccery store with food wrapped in plastic, most of which is powered or made by fossil fuels. We need to electrify and diversifying but they cling to oil and have way too much power in governmental decisions to prevent or reverse any reduction in dependance for their products.

Kind of. It's the system they operate under, capitalism.

Get rid of those specific people and you would have others people take their place.

However, not to say that it isn't worthwhile to also bust out the guillotines

Generally? It doesn't.

See making the call to tip off the cops makes you eligible for the reward. If you called the correct tip/reward phone number. So that's the first road block.

Even then, you aren't automatically getting the reward. No. There are still hoops to jump through.

As a note these additional hoops also apply when there isn't a specific phone number.

According to the FBI's website, I'd link but I'm on my phone, someone (an agent, a prosecutor, etc) has to put your name forward in a nomination package.

This is then reviewed by the FBI and other agencies, it's kind of vague.

Anyway these agencies decide if you get a reward and what percentage.

And none of this can start until after a conviction is secured.

United Healthcare's stock is down 60% since the incident. United Healthcares board and new CEOs lowered the rejection rate of patients out of fear as well. Say what you want about the morality of what was done. The efficacy speaks for itself

Kemp is alive and governing Georgia as far as I know but I'm happy to be corrected if that's wrong. You may be thinking of Brian Thompson who involuntarily resigned his position as the CEO of UnitedHealthcare on a NYC sidewalk.

someone needs to mangione them

... So kill the entire board.

That'd probably make a more uh, substantial material impact on their bottom line.

Oh, they keep doing evil shit with a new board?

... repeat.

Or, I guess you can just either ... well, either try to run away and hide, pray to the normalcy bias gods that one of these days the legal systems they own will do something against them, or just resign yourself to a kind of smug, self defeating moral solace in being doomed, but being right while being doomed.

They seemed pretty mortal to me yeah, idk why anyone would say otherwise

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Didnt bazzel stop doing podcasts way before luigi happened? Or are you talking about an old episode

The efficacy lasted for all of a month before returning to where it had been before.

Ok, but can we put AI in it somehow?

You have mercantilism and other forms of private business without capitalism. A yeoman making something and selling it isn't capitalism.

Your definition is intentionally bad because you do in fact have to separate capitalism from just the very generic concept of private enterprise.

So, UHC stock was up around 600, dropped to a bit over 200, and is lately around 300. So like ¾ of the drop is still there in linear terms, or something like ⅔ in logarithmic terms.

Which one of those things are you doing?

Maybe we should assign these fuckers playing cards like Bush did 👀

Ah damn, you right. Should have Googled it. Too many Brian's in the news, lol. Got the wires crossed.

Editing to fix.

You did have my hopes up for a moment.

That's a fed question.

It would be if the answer weren't so obvious

Had a few seconds where I thought "Wired" was referring to the tech magazine and wondered what "Tired" is, who would choose name for their magazine or whatever?

I'm pretty sure what most people are referring to here is unfettered capitalism. It's not an on/off switch, you can have certain aspects of one thing combined with the other.

You act like they're doing any of it besides the smug moral solace