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Beep lemmus.org Beep@lemmus.org
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Mike Hardaker, who has maintained a Reddit account for 20 years, has been shadow-banned on Reddit. He has posted an update on X, stating that Reddit requires an ad spend to restore organic posting. This demand was given to him in writing.

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NoWay lemmy.world aviationeast@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
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He posted this on xitter. It goes in the trash along with reddit.

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Ilovethebomb sh.itjust.works Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-08
#3 · Quote Reply

He posted this on xitter. It goes in the trash along with reddit.

I mean, if you want more than three people to see the post...

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comador lemmy.world comador@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#4 · Quote Reply

First mistake: Staying on Reddit. Fuck Spez.

Second mistake: Complaining about Reddit on X. Fuck Musk.

Let's just hope this user stays away from substack next.

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tidderuuf lemmy.world tidderuuf@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-28
#5 · Quote Reply

So let me get this straight. Some jerk off looking to advertise his site by spamming links on several subs was hoping to AstroTurf COUGH I mean organically post... And Reddit Ad Team saw that and figured they could milk him for some dollars? So this doucher takes to Xhitter to try to get sympathy?

Ahh capitalism at its finest.

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hopesdead startrek.website hopesdead@startrek.website
Joined: 2024-05-27
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If you didn’t leave when the API pricing went up, everything is your fault.

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minorkeys lemmy.world minorkeys@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-12
#7 · Quote Reply

Owners of the means of production will use that leverage to exploit you, every time.

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ouRKaoS lemmy.today ouRKaoS@lemmy.today
Joined: 2023-10-20
#8 · Quote Reply

"I got caught trying to advertise for free and they want me to pay for it like everyone else!"

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TrackinDaKraken lemmy.world DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-26
#9 · Quote Reply

Just one asshole fucking another with a double-headed dildo. That's all I see.

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CaptDust sh.itjust.works CaptDust@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-08-05
#10 · Quote Reply

Cancel xitter

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unalivejoy lemmy.zip joyjoy@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-06-05
#11 · Quote Reply

I mean, if you want more than three people to see the post...

...you'll have to buy ad space.

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FauxLiving lemmy.world FauxLiving@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-10
#12 · Quote Reply

The bigger news here is that Reddit, as a policy, allows bot posting (organic posting) as long as you're buying ads from them.

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mrnobody reddthat.com mrnobody@reddthat.com
Joined: 2026-01-08
#13 · Quote Reply

That's nothing. I was permabanned for inciting violence or whatever they claimed, which broke rule #1. My "violence" was calling AI stupid (more or less) wishing it'd go away. Ironically, the mod bot banned me.

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Elvith Ma'for feddit.org elvith@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-21
#14 · Quote Reply

...you'll have to buy ad space.

How do I do that on Mastodon, Lemmy, Piefed,...?

^/s^

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bonenode piefed.social bonenode@piefed.social
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fubarx lemmy.world fubarx@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-07
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wltr discuss.tchncs.de wltr@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-10-26
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First mistake: Staying on Reddit. Fuck Spez. Second mistake: Complaining about Reddit on X. Fuck Musk. Let's just hope this user stays away from substack next.

Here’s my story on Medium about my journey from Reddit, to X, to Substack! Like and subscribe guys!

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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞 lemmy.world daychilde@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#18 · Quote Reply

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Like you just did with your comment and OP did with their posting: non paid ad posting

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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞 lemmy.world daychilde@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#19 · Quote Reply

That's nothing. I was permabanned for inciting violence or whatever they claimed, which broke rule #1. My "violence" was calling AI stupid (more or less) wishing it'd go away. Ironically, the mod bot banned me.

Mine came from simply saying that a drone would probably take care of a Russian solder seen in a video on crutches heading toward the front lines in Ukraine. Literally just that. Not saying it with any joy or approval, just a statement of fact. Phrased pretty damn much like I said it in this comment here.

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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞 lemmy.world daychilde@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#20 · Quote Reply

So let me get this straight. Some jerk off looking to advertise his site by spamming links on several subs was hoping to AstroTurf COUGH I mean organically post... And Reddit Ad Team saw that and figured they could milk him for some dollars? So this doucher takes to Xhitter to try to get sympathy? Ahh capitalism at its finest.

wut

Unless the article is absolutely lying, it mentioned the subreddits wanted the posts and couldn't overcome the sitewide ban (i.e. manually approving the content). Your comment is a really huge stretch there.

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doug lemmy.today doug@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-02-14
#21 · Quote Reply

That's nothing. I was permabanned for inciting violence or whatever they claimed, which broke rule #1. My "violence" was calling AI stupid (more or less) wishing it'd go away. Ironically, the mod bot banned me.

My ~19 year old account was permabanned after three strikes that involved two upvotes of Luigi pictures and then— after seeing a vid of Trump falling asleep— saying he shouldn’t wake up.

Then my alt got a warning for “disparaging communities” after I said one of the two PDX subreddits started so they could talk shit about houseless people, which is a fact.

Three of those were flagged by AI, the last one— the warning— was a person flagging it and couldn’t be contested.

It’s gone to the dogs.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#22 · Quote Reply

REDDIT is most AI and propaganda posts and bot posting.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#23 · (edited) Quote Reply

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REAL humans posting. anything that utilizes bots, AI isnt organic, but reddit often bans the real humans over AI posting.

as you know reddit bans people if it looks for patterns thats repeating itself.

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tidderuuf lemmy.world tidderuuf@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-08-28
#24 · Quote Reply

wut Unless the article is absolutely lying, it mentioned the subreddits wanted the posts and couldn't overcome the sitewide ban (i.e. manually approving the content). Your comment is a really huge stretch there.

Hardaker is the operator of Mountain Weekly News, and he regularly used to contribute to three or four subreddits

So I am going to stop right there and ignore any conceivably ingenious reply you may come up with to justify and spin what the dude is actually doing. Spend enough time on Reddit like the grownups around here and you'll eventually understand.

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orbituary lemmy.dbzer0.com orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-14
#25 · Quote Reply

The person in the email strikes me as a contradiction. On the one hand, they're posting their pronouns presumably to indicate some sort of support for inclusivity? On the other hand, they're actively strong-arming and bullying a person into paying for normal access...

I'm sure it's fully lost on that person. It feels so discordant to me.

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orbituary lemmy.dbzer0.com orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-14
#26 · Quote Reply

...you'll have to buy ad space.

Organically.

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darklamer feddit.org darklamer@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-02-19
#27 · Quote Reply

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A posting made by an organic life form, typically a human.

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🌞 Alexander Daychilde 🌞 lemmy.world daychilde@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
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Hardaker is the operator of Mountain Weekly News, and he regularly used to contribute to three or four subreddits So I am going to stop right there and ignore any conceivably ingenious reply you may come up with to justify and spin what the dude is actually doing. Spend enough time on Reddit like the grownups around here and you'll eventually understand.

Listen, kid, I've been on reddit since 2009. I hung out with the admins in IRC back in the day. I was a default mod for a while, and I'm the "father" of /r/nottheonion.

There's plenty I don't know about reddit and life in general, but on this topic, clearly I know a fuck ton more than you.

There was a time on reddit when self-promotion was against the rules. That rule was dropped something like a decade ago.

The simple fact is that - from at least the article's telling - the subreddits wanted the content, and in that case, it is absolutely fine and encouraged for someone to submit.

There's a guy making youtube reviews of restaurants in my local city's subreddit. The content is popular - people like it. So we absolutely are happy to see him post. Is it self-promotion? Yes, technically. It's also relevant to the subreddit and desired by the mods and members of the subreddit.

You're like the people saying "dis a repost" when someone CROSS-posts. Note that reddit has a BUILT IN SYSTEM for cross-posting, but there are redditors who don't know that.

So, little boy, you can take your condescension and /r/confidentlyincorrect along with /r/iamverysmart and fucking LEARN something, or go off and continue to be willfully ignorant.

Disclaimer: If the article's reporting is incorrect and the subreddits considered it spam, well, that's not what the article said, and I don't otherwise have other knowledge of it, nor do I care enough to google for any other possible sources. But that's the informatio you're working off of as well, so there's that.

PS: To add a light-hearted end: I'll go to /r/dontyouknowwhoiam now :) (that name seems too long. Is that the right one/ Well, you probably know what I mean and I'm too lazy to look it up :P )

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MoonRaven feddit.nl MoonRaven@feddit.nl
Joined: 2023-06-07
#29 · Quote Reply

A posting made by an organic life form, typically a human.

Typically??

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Wispy2891 lemmy.world Wispy2891@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-13
#30 · Quote Reply

Organic posting = euphemism for spamming

If the support specifically says that you are a spammer, then you're a spammer.

I do not have empathy for spammers

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Wispy2891 lemmy.world Wispy2891@lemmy.world
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#31 · Quote Reply

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Writing spam posts like "I'm really satisfied using this website, totallynotanad.com" or "try using Company XYZ, their service is really good"

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Zorque lemmy.world Zorque@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-13
#32 · Quote Reply

Typically??

On the internet no one knows youre a dog.

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ZeDoTelhado lemmy.world ZeDoTelhado@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-01-13
#33 · Quote Reply

On the internet no one knows youre a dog.

On the internet, no one knows you're made of cups

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#34 · Quote Reply

Once I got banned like a thousand times within the span of 5 minutes because I reported a pro-Trump post as child abuse. I assume it really triggered some admin.

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wltr discuss.tchncs.de wltr@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2025-10-26
#35 · Quote Reply

The bigger news here is that Reddit, as a policy, allows bot posting (organic posting) as long as you're buying ads from them.

C’mon, is it news? Isn’t that the reason we’re all here?

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lechekaflan lemmy.world lechekaflan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#36 · Quote Reply

Fuck you u/spez.

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exaybachae startrek.website exaybachae@startrek.website
Joined: 2026-02-16
#37 · Quote Reply

My ~19 year old account was permabanned after three strikes that involved two upvotes of Luigi pictures and then— after seeing a vid of Trump falling asleep— saying he shouldn’t wake up. Then my alt got a warning for “disparaging communities” after I said one of the two PDX subreddits started so they could talk shit about houseless people, which is a fact. Three of those were flagged by AI, the...

I'm jealous of all y'all who know why you got bans.

I've gotten warning and temp bans, but they never specify why. They never include the content. Just saying promoting this or that is very unclear, like how, when, where? Did I actually?

I always just ignore them and carry on on alts for a while.

Their shit is so stupid. But there's a lot of useful content on Reddit. I still hit up old house and DIY type groups, cause I own an old house, and specific tech groups because of the tech I use, but I don't miss the rest.

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atomicorange lemmy.world atomicorange@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-28
#38 · Quote Reply

Listen, kid, I've been on reddit since 2009. I hung out with the admins in IRC back in the day. I was a default mod for a while, and I'm the "father" of /r/nottheonion. There's plenty I don't know about reddit and life in general, but on this topic, clearly I know a fuck ton more than you. There was a time on reddit when self-promotion was against the rules. That rule was dropped something like...
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20dogs feddit.uk 20dogs@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-06-12
#39 · Quote Reply

C’mon, is it news? Isn’t that the reason we’re all here?

I mean there's gut feeling and then there's real actual evidence.

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20dogs feddit.uk 20dogs@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-06-12
#40 · Quote Reply

I mean, if you want more than three people to see the post...

You get yourself to BlueSky

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GreenBottles lemmy.world sturmblast@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#41 · Quote Reply

Fuck Reddit

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x00z lemmy.world x00z@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-26
#42 · Quote Reply

So let me get this straight. Some jerk off looking to advertise his site by spamming links on several subs was hoping to AstroTurf COUGH I mean organically post... And Reddit Ad Team saw that and figured they could milk him for some dollars? So this doucher takes to Xhitter to try to get sympathy? Ahh capitalism at its finest.

He might not be morally good, but what Reddit is doing here is illegal in many places.

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Dremor lemmy.world Dremor@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-20
#43 · Quote Reply

Once I got banned like a thousand times within the span of 5 minutes because I reported a pro-Trump post as child abuse. I assume it really triggered some admin.

Sound more like you learned the hard way what "abusing the system" mean.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#44 · Quote Reply

Sound more like you learned the hard way what "abusing the system" mean.

Oh, no, I didn't give a shit, I burned through Reddit accounts like nobody's business. The fact that the admin was so triggered as to sit there, banning and unbanning me, just to spam me with notifications, was the greatest possible reward I could have ever asked for.

First thing I did on the new account was report the exact same post. Didn't get banned.

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suicidaleggroll lemmy.world suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-04
#45 · (edited) Quote Reply

My ~19 year old account was permabanned after three strikes that involved two upvotes of Luigi pictures and then— after seeing a vid of Trump falling asleep— saying he shouldn’t wake up. Then my alt got a warning for “disparaging communities” after I said one of the two PDX subreddits started so they could talk shit about houseless people, which is a fact. Three of those were flagged by AI, the...

I pulled a 3-day ban for calling ICE racists. Must have really triggered one of the racist mods.

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okcomputer piefed.world okcomputer@piefed.world
Joined: 2026-02-02
#46 · Quote Reply

First mistake: Staying on Reddit. Fuck Spez. Second mistake: Complaining about Reddit on X. Fuck Musk. Let's just hope this user stays away from substack next.

I’m new to this, is substack not the place to be for writers?

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dan1101 lemmy.world dan1101@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-12
#47 · Quote Reply

I pulled a 3-day ban for calling ICE racists. Must have really triggered one of the racist mods.

I am on a 7 day ban for the same sort of thing, pointing out how ICE targets brown people. "Inciting hate", how is pointing out hate crimes the same as inciting hate? Fight the power.

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suicidaleggroll lemmy.world suicidaleggroll@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-06-04
#48 · Quote Reply

I am on a 7 day ban for the same sort of thing, pointing out how ICE targets brown people. "Inciting hate", how is pointing out hate crimes the same as inciting hate? Fight the power.

It’s strong “people who point out racism are the real racists” energy

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-23
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Once I got banned like a thousand times within the span of 5 minutes because I reported a pro-Trump post as child abuse. I assume it really triggered some admin.

I wonder if this admin was named maxwellhill.

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corsicanguppy lemmy.ca corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-12
#50 · Quote Reply

an ad spend

When you're off the used car lot, 'spend' is still only a verb, and the word you wanted here is maybe 'purchase' or 'deal'.

'The spend', 'the ask', and other cheese should stay back with the pre-owned Pontiacs.

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IratePirate feddit.org IratePirate@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-02-02
#51 · (edited) Quote Reply

Sound more like you learned the hard way what "abusing the system" mean.

They found out the hard way that abuse is only tolerated if you have passed a certain wealth threshold.

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