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MousePotatoDoesStuff
lemmy.world
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-09 |
Maybe I'm heartless, but why give millions of working class dollars to a bunch of lawyers in what will almost certainly be a slam-dunk loss? It's not like the carceral system will stop enslaving and torturing him if we pay them enough. If you want him to be rewarded, give the money to his family, to his friends, and to the workers whose lives were disrupted because of this.
Or a labor rights organization (and if that organization is your union, you'll likely get more back in form of raised wages and benefits, which you can then use for an even greater impact) |
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Visstix
lemmy.world
Visstix@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
My condolences.
Tough crowd haha |
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Ironfacebuster
lemmy.world
Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-09-12 |
Ai voice cloning has gotten so good they cloned the voice of my best friend who is known for NOT burning down warehouses and framed him! |
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DupaCycki
lemmy.world
DupaCycki@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-08-17 |
So we have a Luigi and a Waluigi. Next up... Mario? Who wants to beat up the evil fatass kidnapping girls? |
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ɔiƚoxɘup
infosec.pub
Quexotic@infosec.pub Joined: 2023-08-23 |
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Resonosity
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-07-21 |
LUIGI MANGIONE ALLEGEDLY KILLED UNITED HEALTHCARE CEO BRIAN THOMPSON. |
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HubertManne
piefed.social
HubertManne@piefed.social Joined: 2025-03-13 |
wish he worked at mara lago. |
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chunes
lemmy.world
chunes@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-04-08 |
Why do they prosecute people multiple times at different levels of government? Doesn't that seem kind of unfair? |
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null
lemmy.org
null@lemmy.org Joined: 2026-02-21 |
The history of unions is one of war. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain https://youtu.be/w1V-yQ3Y_XE?is=gjnO1iYGXKQtnHir
They had a choice. This guy lit the place on fire with 30 of his coworkers inside. |
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Fedizen
lemmy.world
Fedizen@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-04 |
This guy rules. Nobody died. Should have paid him more. Edit: I can't believe a warehouse that big didn't seem to have sprinkler systems. This kind of thing was practically inevitable. Is this just some kind of water conservation exemption in california? |
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Fedizen
lemmy.world
Fedizen@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-04 |
Why do they prosecute people multiple times at different levels of government? Doesn't that seem kind of unfair?
Laws here are intended to protect to the wealthy. Its illegal for homeless people to sleep anywhere outside. Law and fairness are not ideas that ever touch each other. |
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chatokun
lemmy.dbzer0.com
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-08-16 |
Why do they prosecute people multiple times at different levels of government? Doesn't that seem kind of unfair?
There are valid reasons to do so, that wouldn't necessarily feel unfair against someone who for sure did something wrong. Basically, it's so that one sticks. Derek Chauvin was charged on second degree unintentional murder, third degree murder, and second degree manslaughter. These all have different degrees of severity, including average and maximum punishments. Unintentional 2nd degree is the hardest, and requires a felony (3rd degree assault) to stick. Max penalty 40y, average 12.5. 3rd degree murder requires less; just an "eminently dangerous" act with a "depraved mind" and no regard for life. 25y max, same average 2nd degree Manslaughter is just culpable negligence that can cause unreasonable risk of death or great harm. 10 year max, 4 average. Now they have to convince a Jury to convict on those charges. If they don't think the felony happened, then the first charge is out. If they don't think he had a "depraved mind", then the second charge is also out. So to make sure he actually gets a punishment, they charge all charges they believe they can get a jury to accept. Charging in both federal and state can also protect against only one politically motivated Governor or president from pardoning all charges, so they would need two pardons. In addition, if the federal government is worried the state trial might be too biased, they may want their own charges just in case. It seems unfair because you may identify with his actions, but if this was someone lynching people in an extremely racist state (I'd like to say like in the past, but maybe even today) the federal government tacking on charges (in a better admin) could protect against racists just absolving someone from said murder. In Derek Chauvin's case all charges were successfully convicted, but that isn't always the case. It is a double edged sword though. |
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Bluescluestoothpaste
sh.itjust.works
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-08-05 |
Maybe I'm heartless, but why give millions of working class dollars to a bunch of lawyers in what will almost certainly be a slam-dunk loss? It's not like the carceral system will stop enslaving and torturing him if we pay them enough. If you want him to be rewarded, give the money to his family, to his friends, and to the workers whose lives were disrupted because of this.
It's only a slam dunk loss with that attitude, how many hundreds of girls did trump rape and he never even got to trial |
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orioler25
lemmy.world
orioler25@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-10-19 |
Huh, maybe Baudrillard was right. |
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
This guy rules. Nobody died. Should have paid him more. Edit: I can't believe a warehouse that big didn't seem to have sprinkler systems. This kind of thing was practically inevitable. Is this just some kind of water conservation exemption in california?
You want fireproofing? In this economy? How am I supposed to return 30% YoY profits to my investors?! |
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
Why do they prosecute people multiple times at different levels of government? Doesn't that seem kind of unfair?
Because it is such a high profile case, every level of the bureaucracy wants a bite at the apple. Everyone wants to get in front of a camera and say "We're doing something about it!" to a gaggle of social media influencers and party apparatchiks with press badges. |
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_nullification
Will be curious to see where the case is tried. If the warehouse is deeply unpopular in the local community, they may file for a change of venue. |
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merdaverse
lemmy.zip
merdaverse@lemmy.zipJoined: 2025-06-11 |
That warehouse got luigid good |
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HugeNerd
lemmy.ca
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca Joined: 2025-03-06 |
This guy rules. Nobody died. Should have paid him more. Edit: I can't believe a warehouse that big didn't seem to have sprinkler systems. This kind of thing was practically inevitable. Is this just some kind of water conservation exemption in california?
uh huh, now dozens of his coworkers don't have a paycheck. Mission accomplished, I guess. If he really ruled, he would have left the door open. |
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MML
sh.itjust.works
MML@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-30 |
This guy rules. Nobody died. Should have paid him more. Edit: I can't believe a warehouse that big didn't seem to have sprinkler systems. This kind of thing was practically inevitable. Is this just some kind of water conservation exemption in california?
No one died? Dope I mean I might have semi-supported him before, long as he took full steps to protect people and just burn business, legend. |
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MML
sh.itjust.works
MML@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2025-06-30 |
Because it is such a high profile case, every level of the bureaucracy wants a bite at the apple. Everyone wants to get in front of a camera and say "We're doing something about it!" to a gaggle of social media influencers and party apparatchiks with press badges.
So corruption? |
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Hildegard (she/her)
lemmy.blahaj.zone
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-12-07 |
And still not one goddamn Epstein Rapist has been arrested. But we're gonna throw federal and state charges at a guy for fighting back? This country is fucking ridiculous.
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
So corruption?
Not corruption, per say. This is a fatal flaw of any democratic institution. You need to be seen doing your job or people will assume it isn't getting done. So more and more of the job of an executive level official is marketing yourself. Everyone who isn't running around cutting their own promos is setting themselves up for defeat against someone who does. |
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Lucidlethargy
sh.itjust.works
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-28 |
This was in Canada. Its a different country, eh?
Ontario, CALIFORNIA. |
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Lucidlethargy
sh.itjust.works
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-28 |
And still not one goddamn Epstein Rapist has been arrested. But we're gonna throw federal and state charges at a guy for fighting back? This country is fucking ridiculous.
Not only that, Trump also pardoned nearly 1,600 hard criminals that violently attacked a federal building on January 6th. |
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this_1_is_mine
lemmy.ml
this_1_is_mine@lemmy.ml Joined: 2023-07-16 |
uh huh, now dozens of his coworkers don't have a paycheck. Mission accomplished, I guess. If he really ruled, he would have left the door open.
co-workers already weren't getting pay checks that's why he sent the place on fire they hadn't been paid in months..... |
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Formfiller
lemmy.world
Formfiller@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-12 |
Someone made a give send go for him but nobody is donating https://www.givesendgo.com/Chamelabdulkarim |
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prenatal_confusion
feddit.org
prenatal_confusion@feddit.org Joined: 2024-09-04 |
Someone made a give send go for him but nobody is donating https://www.givesendgo.com/Chamelabdulkarim
Credibility proof? Also: prayers? Fuck no. |
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Formfiller
lemmy.world
Formfiller@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-12 |
Credibility proof? Also: prayers? Fuck no.
What |
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prenatal_confusion
feddit.org
prenatal_confusion@feddit.org Joined: 2024-09-04 |
Credibility proof? Also: prayers? Fuck no.
How do people know that the funding is going to him? There needs to be some proof. I can set up one too and keep the money. Prayers are an option there on the site. |
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Hildegard (she/her)
lemmy.blahaj.zone
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-12-07 |
Ontario, CALIFORNIA.
I have literally been misreading this whole time. Sorry thx for the correction. |
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/home/pineapplelover
lemmy.dbzer0.com
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-06-30 |
I didn't like this because of economic damage and needlessness for a bunch of firefighters to stop the spread. Should've just gone straight to the ceo |
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Pommes_für_dein_Balg
feddit.org
mech@feddit.org Joined: 2025-10-06 |
Someone made a give send go for him but nobody is donating https://www.givesendgo.com/Chamelabdulkarim
How do we know you didn't make that? |
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TheFeatureCreature
lemmy.ca
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.caJoined: 2025-02-15 |
I didn't like this because of economic damage and needlessness for a bunch of firefighters to stop the spread. Should've just gone straight to the ceo
Then they just replace the CEO with a new one and the cycle continues once again. CEO's are more often than not just fallguys that get swapped out when shareholders are displeased. What this guy did was a direct and tangible hit to the property and finances of the company in a way they will never forget. Entire supply lines will be disrupted and it will take them considerable time to recover. If this type of action was coordinated across multiple locations by their workers it would devastate the company if not destroy it entirely depending on how severe the action was. |
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tazeycrazy
feddit.uk
tazeycrazy@feddit.uk Joined: 2025-02-24 |
Fuck that guy. Luigi had no victims. Forming unions take work, but picket lines don't destroy businesses. I'd be pissed if some salty coworker set fire to where I worked and put MY ass out on the street.
Unions are the compromise. Many businesses owners have been lynched by there employees. If there is nowhere to voice your discomfort your only recourse is violence. A strike can result in a business shutting down if the workers strike for long enough. That's why organisation is needed. Forming a union takes time but it's worth it. |
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Captain Aggravated
sh.itjust.works
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-20 |
I didn't like this because of economic damage and needlessness for a bunch of firefighters to stop the spread. Should've just gone straight to the ceo
Nah. We're diversified. We're always trying out new and exciting forms of crime. And we'd better, because there's some Japanese gangs out there that's gonna do it faster and cheaper. |
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MoffKalast
lemmy.world
MoffKalast@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-02 |
Laws here are intended to protect to the wealthy. Its illegal for homeless people to sleep anywhere outside. Law and fairness are not ideas that ever touch each other.
When they say "land of the free" it's not free as in freedom, but free as in unpaid. |
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Captain Aggravated
sh.itjust.works
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-20 |
Why do they prosecute people multiple times at different levels of government? Doesn't that seem kind of unfair?
The United States is a federation. Each state has a code of laws, and the federal government has one. You break a state law, you're going to state court. You break a federal law, you're going to federal court. You break a state law and a federal law, you're going to state and federal court. |
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Captain Aggravated
sh.itjust.works
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-20 |
Someone made a give send go for him but nobody is donating https://www.givesendgo.com/Chamelabdulkarim
Might it have anything to do with the fact nobody knows what the hell givesendgo is? |
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eclipsez0r
sh.itjust.works
eclipsez0r@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2026-02-18 |
There are valid reasons to do so, that wouldn't necessarily feel unfair against someone who for sure did something wrong. Basically, it's so that one sticks. Derek Chauvin was charged on second degree unintentional murder, third degree murder, and second degree manslaughter. These all have different degrees of severity, including average and maximum punishments. Unintentional 2nd degree is the ...
Thank you for the explanation (sincerely). Beyond the pardon thing, it just seems like they're having multiple bites at the same pie whilst being able to ignore double jeopardy. It would seem saner to make them commit to whatever the maximum crime/penalty they are aiming for and ignore the rest. Instead it seems like they (the government, in all its forms) can just try to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks. |
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Formfiller
lemmy.world
Formfiller@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-12 |
How do we know you didn't make that?
geeze ok whatever |
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PhoenixDog
lemmy.world
PhoenixDog@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-01-14 |
Edit: I can’t believe a warehouse that big didn’t seem to have sprinkler systems. You want fireproofing? In this economy? How am I supposed to return 30% YoY profits to my investors?!
Won't somebody PLEASE think of the Shareholders! |
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PhoenixDog
lemmy.world
PhoenixDog@lemmy.worldJoined: 2026-01-14 |
LUIGI MANGIONE ALLEGEDLY KILLED UNITED HEALTHCARE CEO BRIAN THOMPSON.
I've not seen the proof. Have you? |
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despoticruin
lemmy.zip
despoticruin@lemmy.zipJoined: 2025-06-23 |
It's only a slam dunk loss with that attitude, how many hundreds of girls did trump rape and he never even got to trial
OJ killed 2 people and all but admitted it on national TV multiple times and still never saw charges stick. |
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LifeInMultipleChoice
lemmy.world
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
The United States is a federation. Each state has a code of laws, and the federal government has one. You break a state law, you're going to state court. You break a federal law, you're going to federal court. You break a state law and a federal law, you're going to state and federal court.
Only if you piss off the rich. A good example is Ted Bundy. Murdered non rich people in 4(?) different states, a situation where it would make complete sense the federal government would be bringing the charges because the crimes weren't all within the jurisdiction of just one state... Yet no federal charges were brought against him, they left it to the states. |
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Captain Aggravated
sh.itjust.works
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.worksJoined: 2023-06-20 |
I have literally been misreading this whole time. Sorry thx for the correction.
You mean to tell me you were confused by a place named "Ontario, CA"? How? |
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FUCKING_CUNO
lemmy.dbzer0.com
FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-04-30 |
This guy rules. Nobody died. Should have paid him more. Edit: I can't believe a warehouse that big didn't seem to have sprinkler systems. This kind of thing was practically inevitable. Is this just some kind of water conservation exemption in california?
Read in an internet comment, so take with a grain, but he apparently had a multistage plan. Started a small fire, fire dept came to deal with it, and company brass had them turn off fire suppression to limit unnecessary damage to product in other areas. It was then that they lit a bunch more fires, and by the time the figured it out, it was too late. |
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chatokun
lemmy.dbzer0.com
chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2023-08-16 |
Thank you for the explanation (sincerely). Beyond the pardon thing, it just seems like they're having multiple bites at the same pie whilst being able to ignore double jeopardy. It would seem saner to make them commit to whatever the maximum crime/penalty they are aiming for and ignore the rest. Instead it seems like they (the government, in all its forms) can just try to throw shit at the wall...
Yeah, with corrupt governments in place it's used more negatively than positively. While there are valid reasons, in practice it's misplaced good intentions at best, more what you're saying more likely. |
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Petersson
feddit.org
Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.orgJoined: 2024-06-22 |
I've not seen the proof. Have you?
I actually saw Donald Trump shoot the CEO while standing in the middle of the street and not losing any voters. |
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Diurnambule
jlai.lu
Diurnambule@jlai.lu Joined: 2023-08-29 |
Someone made a give send go for him but nobody is donating https://www.givesendgo.com/Chamelabdulkarim
One the home page of give end go their are many antivax funds. Look like a right wing grifting website. |
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