It would also hurt their best customers while helping the people who only buy games on sale, which isn't great for their bottom line.

Depends on the game, depends on the rank even. F2P games are rife with smurfs.

I tend to agree with most of the other commenters in this thread - PvP games are just not for me anymore. I used to like them, but now it's almost anxiety-inducing. I avoid them mostly, or if I do play I will dabble in the most casual of modes available to me and I'll flee at the first sign of sweaty gamerbros or toxic attitudes.

I much prefer solo or co-op games where the only opponent is an AI. There's less pressure to perform well and as a result I can relax and have fun rather than stress about not letting my team down or getting humiliated and verbally abused by my opponents (and sometimes teammates, depending on the game).

Git gud nub lmao ezpz

I suggest against the storm and ball x pit as well as blue Prince for the games I've been enjoying immensely lately

Okay yeah, that's fair.

Even co-op always that one friend that turns up like golden homer and the rest of the party just got new underwear.

Just play single player games, they are much less stressful. I used to play StarCraft and Warcraft 3 when I was younger, but now I'm too slow for those games and for some reason there are no no RTS games since StarCraft 2.

Whats the issue? He lost to t1 and he thinks it was undeserved or something. T1 is one o the few streamers who is really good at games.

i found your first match

I would say it's a bit easier to get into, with generally less lag and slightly better UI. The game is still extremely complicated but at least the wiki for each server is packaged as part of the game now and is pretty easy to navigate

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Warno

Play crimson desert and feel exactly stressed :D

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What do you expect? You want them to let you win? You're not a child and they're not your dad lol

Quit your job and git gud, scrub.

you feel bad because you had a shitty day

I feel bad because my life is worthless

we are not the same

Regular enemies are weak but annoying with how they just seemingly never stop spawning.

Bosses are annoying because they constantly teleport or become immune to damage or require some gimmick that is not at all well telegraphed.

The system for combat is good. The balance of the enemies in said combat is fucking ridiculous and pretty close to the worst I have seen.

Most competitive video games skill match players using a system based on ELO, which is basically just the number of games you have played vs the number you have won. But then they slightly tweak that to give a really bad player like 1 win outta every 10 games or so just to keep them from quitting.

Most competitive multiplayer games are free nowadays: cs2, fortnite, apex, warzone, pubg, rainbow six siege are all free. You are not forced to buy any skins to be any better in the game.
Unfortunately for the ones that haven't gamed that much over the years, the skill level is insanely high in most. But there's a thing called skill-based matchmaking in most anyways. Free games adds the downside of people smurfing/ cheating. But I would say most of those games try to combat it even though it ain't easy to do that (except for cs2).
Singleplayers from indie devs are king rn and usually the cost is around 30$, or just don't buy on release and wait a year or 2 for insane price drops.

I don't really understand the complaint tbh. The only game that fits your complaint is CoD multiplayer.

Bots are dumb, though. Bad AI really takes me out of a game, and every game has bad AI. Once I figure out their behavior patterns, the fun is completely gone for me. I prefer online gaming because human opponents are unpredictable.

Hardware bans do not work (easily faked), so it's kinda obvious why devs don't use it. And even if they did, if the cheaters sell their hardware and replace it with the same from someone else (essentially just shipping cost), the only thing that happens is some poor schmuck is banned from a game for no fault of their own, just because they bought used hardware.

This whole thread is absolutely stupid. Going PvP probably brings out the dumbest, most obvious biases and insecurities out of people.

First like you say, literally all games today match you with similar players. So you're going to roughly win 50%. So it doesn't matter how good you are (except the literal best/worst), you're always gonna lose and win the same amount.

Then also, if you are playing with someone that plays 10 hours a day, then either they are really bad for how much they play or you're really good for how little you play. Either way, the match is fair again.

Then of course it literally doesn't matter if you win or lose, games are about having fun, and you can have fun winning or losing. Coupled with the fact that you're basically forced to lose 50% of the time, you better have fun losing, else why would you play a game that you just straight up don't enjoy 50% of the time?

There's literally no reason to "keep up with the meta", it's just an arbitrary excuse that "sounds reasonable". You can play literally every PvP game without ever looking at what other people do, and still be good, or just not care if you're not in idk, the top 10%. But people can't handle it ego-wise if they're not in the top 10%, so an excuse to not play at all is much less painful.

And if you bring up any of these points, it's like politics, people don't even listen to you because their mind is already made up or their ego prevents them, it's useless.

And this gentleman is how we get cheaters.

The thing is, it doesn't matter if you work or not, at some point everyone has to sleep. Even the no job people get offline raided all the time. If you can't handle it, then the game is just not for you.

Also, literally everything is Sisyphean hell if you think about it.

No, I want all the tryhards to be pooled together so they don't ruin the fun of other players.

But instead they create smurf accounts because their life is so miserable, they have to find worse players in order to feel better about themselves.

What a weird way to excuse cheaters

Ugh, sweaty tryhard.

Sorry for existing in a way you don't like

I love your comments lol

Or one of the other bazilion co-op games.

Look at this tryhard smacking down a poor guy on Lemmy!!!

P.s. just kidding, acting a interesting fact.

Those no job people switch turns sleeping.

That game is just badly designed. If no one from a base is active on the server, they shouldn't be able to get attacked. Period.

Allowing all your hard work to be deleted just because you have a life outside the game is dumb. I'd never play such a game more than one session.

99% of games are definitely not a Sisyphean hell at all. You should broaden your horizon more.

Excuse you for trying to put your emotional garbage on somebody else that is just having a good time.

And on the flip side of this there’s people who barely spend any time in the game beating no-lifer’s causing them to finally rage quit the game.

You can always use vpn in roblox, connect to country where most people are at work at that time, jump into fps game and go on continous kill streak playing against the kids.

Do PVE not PVP

If you like, you can team up with people from other timezones or with the no job people yourself, and then you can also take shifts.

And obviously it's badly designed. I literally said the game might not be for them, it's also nothing for me, either.

All I'm saying is that the perceived "problems" are not actually problems at all if you just go with it.

Also, give me one example of a game that is not "Sisyphean hell", along with the definition of "not Sisyphean". The whole of our existence is Sisyphean, that is literally the point of the fable, so obviously all games are also.

All true, then they act like it's a problem they dont olay their game. It's video games it's to waste time, if you dont play them literally nothing of value is lost, so play them or don't it's just not a big deal either way we have real problems in this world unfortunately

If you like Command and Conquer style RTSs, give Tempest Rising a shot. It came out last year and it feels exactly like a C&C game, but with modern graphics and QoL improvements.

I mean I disagree with you there, I would say it is certainly a problem that they can't play their games. Games are not meant to waste time, they're meant to train real life skills, just in a lower stake, more approachable, abstract manner. And they actually do that really well (depending on the game), so if you can't even play those, how are you expected to deal with all the stuff real life throws at you? If your ego keeps you from enjoying a simple game, what real things does your ego keep you from as well?

aren't you the one hating on "tryhards" for existing in a way you don't like??

Did the ruby grind 2 seasons in a row and burnt myself out of ever playing it again. Top 500 sweat is crazy.

Who did excused anything ? I just named a potential cause.

After running into those fuckers in other game modes, I can only imagine what it would be like going against multiple teams of them every round for 45mins.

I can smell the BO reading some of these comments

This is far more rare than you'd think. When you're playing games at the highest level it's not just skill, there's a layer of play where you're basically exploiting because you're so in tune with the game you can take advantage of effects that last milliseconds.

When I played competitively if I joined a random server, I'd sweep about 1/3 rounds. I took the moniker fishy because I'd been banned from so many servers for "hacking" and an admin said "IDK if you're hacking or not but you're fishy..."

My dude, i love video games with a passion and i benefit greatly from having been a kid who mess with .ini files and making cracked software work, but the actual playing of video games does not train you for anything besides that particular genre of video games. If you aren't having fun then just stop, maybe find a new game.

Never said he felt like it was undeserved. He loses to better players who are not famous streamers all the time in Master rank. Nobody really likes getting verbally abused just because they had one bad match. I know that the FGC loves their trash talk, but it's juvenile as fuck. Life is hard enough without having to get beaten while you're down doing something that is supposed to be fun.

Also, the point of the thread, and my post, is pointing out that skill is only one part of the equation. My friend has a job which he dedicates 1/3rd of his waking hours to. Tyler1 is a professional streamer and can easily grind out games for 12+ hours per day. I don't think there is a reality in which he could compete with someone who has such an advantage in hours played.

Side note: The only comment he really made on the match itself that could even come close to be considered complaining/copium was that Tyler1's playstyle is very frustrating to play against. He turtles up and plays defensively, which is a super safe, low risk method of stacking up wins. The Guile mirror match did not make things any easier. A lot of people complain about him using Modern controls, but my friend thinks that if T1 dedicated some of his time to learning classic controls, he could become as absolute monster since he's already really good and has mastered the fundamentals.