https://www.cloudflare.com/privacypolicy/

Good luck reaching websites 😂

I suggest you also block anyone using AWS.

If you are actively blocking Cloudflare and you are still able to use the web services you rely on then I am genuinely jealous of you.

Doesn't Lemmy go down when Cloudflare goes down? Are you currently blocking CF?

I think I'd rather practice other anti-tracking or anti-fingerprinting measures rather than blocking one of the largest CDN's in the world. But yes, they do track.

Reminds me of when my stepmother turned off the router because she didn’t want incoming radiation and then couldn’t figure why her emails were not arriving.

If you set up a website with cloudflare, their user interface has a lot of tracking stuff on by default to be injected into it. It also encourages you to use their https service where the traffic is not actually encrypted from the user to your server, but man-in-the-middle'd by cloudflare. But the interface makes it super easy to do and refers to it like a good and normal default option.

So yeah I think they really want your data.

Privacy policies doesnt mean anything, if it's a US based company. Doesnt matter if the servers are in the EU. They steal it anyway.

Look US Cloud Act.

Depends on your provider.

Do you honestly believe the US follows the GDPR?

they must first comply with the Patriot Act, the FISA amendment Act, and the Cloud Act, because they are in the same jurisdiction as them... then, maybe the EU GDPR. in that order. always.

well it's standard "hierarchy of norms" theory of the law, when regulations of different nature piling up...

Also Patriot, FISA-A, and Cloud acts all pretend to be justified by "national security" which times and times again has been considered in the US be a higher imperative in the hierarchy of the norms (in many cases justifying to even bypass the constitution when it comes to spying on US citizens, etc.).

Whichever way you look at it: the NSA and the CIA (and countless other agencies) who have been granted unlimited, unregulated, untraceable access to all data processed by any US company are not subjected to the EU GDPR.

I don't think OP would be able to use the modern internet lol

If they still can then goddam please write a tutorial

https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawoollacott/2025/07/22/microsoft-cant-keep-eu-data-safe-from-us-authorities/ iirc, this was about EU servers that were not supposed to forward data to the US by contract

Lots of stuff breaks when you block cloudflare so a better way to avoid its data collection is to use a vpn and clear your browsing data.

I have the detect cloudlflare firefox extension. I avoid sites that use it. Haven't tried blocking it completely yet but I could probably manage.

They are also legally required to hand over the data. Do you honestly believe they go against the orange dictator and NSA?

Even if you don't use Cloudflare's https they still need the private keys to work. So they can read all traffic either way.

Depends on the Lemmy server. So not all of Lemmy goes down.

Just blocking the domain won't do you any good. Half the internet is behind Cloudflare. Even some Lemmy servers use it.

This is just turning off your router with extra steps

I know the server I'm on went offline during the last cf outage. Never occurred to me this wouldn't be the case for all of Lemmy.

Edit: early morning comment always ends with me making spelling mistakes.

That's true if you're proxying your traffic for DDoS protection, but you don't need to do that to use them as a DNS, if you must.

Can you link that extension please? That way I'm getting the right one. Hope its open source too

I'll be more specific: if you set up a website on your own server, and use Cloudflare as a reverse proxy. If you do SSL yourself, on your own server, then the traffic is encrypted between the client and your server, and therefore Cloudflare cannot read it, they do not have the encryption keys, even though the traffic is passing through them. If you use Cloudflare's https solution, Cloudflare provides the keys and decrypts the traffic before passing it on.

The former is the more secure way to do it, but they encourage you to do it the way where they get to read all the traffic, which is pretty shady of them, because if a website has https people assume that means it is end to end encrypted to the website itself, but that assumption is being violated here and a user has no way to know.

Well you can use the modern internet. Just not most of it.
You would be only looking at the personal indie web at that point.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/detect-cloudflare/

You can block cloudflare, amazon, etc. with this one: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cloud-firewall/

How can they act as a proxy if they can't terminate the connection? Or what service does that offer?

I guess they could filter out some connections based on IP addresses. But is that enough for some customers? Or am I overlooking something?

As others have mentioned you are going to have a tough time seeing much on the web without it but I guess it would be a good way to see the web with like zero corpo stuff.

How can they act as a proxy if they can’t terminate the connection?

Why wouldn't they be able to? The DNS record points to Cloudflare's IP, they forward the traffic to your server's IP. This is a common choice for self hosting setups because it's a free service and it is a way to avoid pointing a DNS record at your home IP, which you may not want everyone to know. That doesn't require decrypting the traffic.

How this squares with the ddos protection and caching stuff, I'm not sure, but I know I set up SSL locally, did not give Cloudflare the keys, turned off all the options for them to handle it, and everything seems to work.

A lot of personal indie web uses CF because it’s free and manages usage spikes and your home server going offline for whatever reason.

Usenet, email & gopher. Perfection.

Thanks! I hadn't considered just wanting to hide your own IP.

You should check the certificate shown to clients when accessing your domain. I think you'll find that it is not the certificate that you created outside of Cloudflare. Cloudflare doesn't need your private key as they issue a certificate for your domain to themselves and use that for the connection with the client. The certificate you created is used between Cloudflare and your server. The only option I'm aware to route traffic through Cloudflare where they don't terminate SSL is an enterprise only feature.

for my server i use porkbun this cheap but relaible and my raspberry pi3b for small cloud servers, xmpp, wireguard, works nicely

for that reason i block it via uBlock origin because it is an operational reality that i need to see that shit sometimes. the only uBlock origin origin that never gets toggled is wix. that shit can stay the fuck off my screen

You won't be able to access 22% of websites, among them many of the largest ones.

Thanks for the info about HTTPS. I have used it a lot in the past, since its so incredibly easy and reliable

That was a great time. My little server never felt snappier because all the big instances had stopped sending their content. And I could laugh at them because I wasn't affected.

this is one reason I have not been very motivated to block ads. its kinda something I want to know about because holy trump they are just lowest common denominator at this point. There is just a whole cesspool that people who have not seen adds since before covid are unaware of.

oh for sure. it's horrifying. people are just existing with overt fascist propaganda around them all the time, and Google has been pushing it hard since 2019

Porkbun uses cloudflare name servers.

yes it is, they manage dns using cloudflare, but not provide any dtata to them

I block cloudflareinsights.com which my lemmy instance seems to be using lol.

Yupp it sucks.

But it does kind of reaffirm that it most likely is collecting just as much data as google. I hate cloudflare and don't understand why the rest of the world wants to be so dependent on a US ran technology firm after
waves arms
all this

The "Alt+F4 is a cheatcode" of our times.