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House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) on Sunday said Democrats will not focus on impeaching President Trump if they regain a majority in the lower chamber after midterm elections.

“I’ve made clear from the very beginning that our top priority is going to be to drive down the high cost of living,” the House minority leader added.

The House minority leader has lauded Democrats’ push for redistricting nationwide in an effort to pick up additional House seats and signaled that the party will advocate more for working-class Americans, after Democrats saw losses from the key demographic in the 2024 election.

(Obligatory https://readsettlers.org/ )

PS this is low effort memes, I'm not going to defend the meme in the comments - feel free to argue with yourselves

Edit: I'm not american so you're extra wasting your time arguing 🤷‍♀️

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SanctimoniousApe lemmings.world SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world
Joined: 2024-08-17
#2 · (edited) Quote Reply

I don't like it, either, but it's politically the smart thing to do (EDIT: I'm referring to not seeking impeachment here - ICE still needs to go for sure). Rather than reignite the partisan wars, show the less extreme Trump supporters that the other side is actually prioritizing "the people" & their needs more than Trump ever did - it'll do more to win their support than attacking "their side" ever will.

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UsernameHere lemmy.world UsernameHere@lemmy.world
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#3 · Quote Reply

The majority of voters don’t want to abolish ICE. Just like they didn’t want to defund the police.

They want police to follow the law and be held accountable and ICE to not be used as Trump’s personal army.

This seems like an attempt to make leftists look bad by pushing a sentiment that is unpopular with voters

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blarth thelemmy.club blarth@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-03-16
#4 · Quote Reply

Nah we’re not doing this “genocide Joe” bullshit again.

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ArbitraryValue sh.itjust.works ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-07-06
#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

Why there's no public support here for permissive immigration policies either. Am I so out of touch? No, it's the voters who are wrong.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#6 · Quote Reply

I don't like it, either, but it's politically the smart thing to do (EDIT: I'm referring to not seeking impeachment here - ICE still needs to go for sure). Rather than reignite the partisan wars, show the less extreme Trump supporters that the other side is actually prioritizing "the people" & their needs more than Trump ever did - it'll do more to win their support than attacking "their si...

I disagree. Democrats need to appeal not to reactionary right-wing or centrists, but rather people who did not vote, by using left-wing populist messaging to counter right-wing populism.

Look at the success of Mamdami as a template. That's how we win - with candidates who are actually worth voting for, with policies that actively improve the lives of the working class, rather than the totally failed tactic of appealing to some mythical moderate voter with the "we're slightly less terrible than the republicans" approach.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#7 · (edited) Quote Reply

Nah we’re not doing this “genocide Joe” bullshit again.

Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts, then. Otherwise leftists such as myself will continue to endlessly effort post and create a scene.

You need to accept that the shitlib/radical centrist coalition is insufficient to get Democrats to win elections, as clearly demonstrated by Biden/Harris completely failing. You need to push the Democrats to the left. You need to have a candidate actually worth voting for, someone who actually excites the electorate to go out and vote to improve their lives, not just the "technically better than Trump" candidate. That doesn't win elections, no matter how much you rant and rave and shame people.

Deal with this reality, or accept endless Republican victories.

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SanctimoniousApe lemmings.world SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world
Joined: 2024-08-17
#8 · (edited) Quote Reply

I disagree. Democrats need to appeal not to reactionary right-wing or centrists, but rather people who did not vote, by using left-wing populist messaging to counter right-wing populism. Look at the success of Mamdami as a template. That's how we win - with candidates who are actually worth voting for, with policies that actively improve the lives of the working class, rather than the totally f...

I don't disagree with that, and I'm not saying Trumpers should be a priority, but attacking him is only going to stir up anger without accomplishing anything truly positive at this point. Plus Trump is at least a thorn in the puppet-masters" sides with his randomness, while Vance would be a good little boy and do exactly what he's told by his handlers. I prefer Trump continue fucking up their plans a bit.

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blarth thelemmy.club blarth@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2024-03-16
#9 · Quote Reply

Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts, then. Otherwise leftists such as myself will continue to endlessly effort post and create a scene. You need to accept that the shitlib/radical centrist coalition is insufficient to get Democrats to win elections, as clearly demonstrated by Biden/Harris completely failing. You need to push the Democrats to the left. You need to have a candidate actua...

Hell nah, I’m not doing this tonight.

Perfection is the enemy of progress or something.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#10 · Quote Reply

I don't disagree with that, and I'm not saying Trumpers should be a priority, but attacking him is only going to stir up anger without accomplishing anything truly positive at this point. Plus Trump is at least a thorn in the puppet-masters" sides with his randomness, while Vance would be a good little boy and do exactly what he's told by his handlers. I prefer Trump continue fucking up their p...

oh, I think I misunderstood, I thought you were saying that the left shouldn't abolish ICE. I agree that removing Trump from office wouldn't be worthwhile.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
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#11 · (edited) Quote Reply

Hell nah, I’m not doing this tonight. Perfection is the enemy of progress or something.

If you think electing a genocidal democrat is progress, as far as I'm concerned, you are as much an enemy of mine as a MAGA supporter is.

I am not asking for perfection. The bar is literally underground. We are talking about fucking genocide, here, not microaggressions.

This shit is literally how Trump got into power. You need to blame the Democrats for this. It was an entirely unforced defeat, all because Biden/Harris needed to dickride Israel directly into hell.

Fuck. That.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-07-09
#12 · Quote Reply

Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts, then. Otherwise leftists such as myself will continue to endlessly effort post and create a scene. You need to accept that the shitlib/radical centrist coalition is insufficient to get Democrats to win elections, as clearly demonstrated by Biden/Harris completely failing. You need to push the Democrats to the left. You need to have a candidate actua...

Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts or I’ll do my best to kneecap the only viable opposition and empower MAGA and Trump!

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#13 · (edited) Quote Reply

Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts or I’ll do my best to kneecap the only viable opposition and empower MAGA and Trump!

The Democrats empowered MAGA and Trump by running a completely non-viable candidate. Stop blaming voters for the failure of the Democratic party. This is all on them, 100%.

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SanctimoniousApe lemmings.world SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world
Joined: 2024-08-17
#14 · Quote Reply

oh, I think I misunderstood, I thought you were saying that the left shouldn't abolish ICE. I agree that removing Trump from office wouldn't be worthwhile.

Ah, no - I was just referring to the impeachment. ICE - at least in anything vaguely resembling its current form - definitely needs to go.

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chemical_cutthroat lemmy.world chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-10
#15 · Quote Reply

You can really see it ramp up in real time. The pro-china, pro-russia shit, the "both sides" shit, the "Dems don't do anything" shit. It's all bad actors making false equivalency arguments. Motherfuckers act like trump take 3 is gonna be better. Fuck off. Vote blue. Period. Call me out if you want, but if you vote red, if you vote third party, you are part of the problem. The system isn't set up for a third party, so if you do that, you only help the party that wouldn't have gotten your vote otherwise. Wish it wasn't that way, but it is, so you gotta go what you gotta do and vote blue, no matter how much you want to be a tankie slut.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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#16 · Quote Reply

The Democrats empowered MAGA and Trump by running a completely non-viable candidate. Stop blaming voters for the failure of the Democratic party. This is all on them, 100%.

That non viable candidate almost won and the world would be a better place if she did.

I’d say this was less on the voters and more on the non voters.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#17 · (edited) Quote Reply

That non viable candidate almost won and the world would be a better place if she did. I’d say this was less on the voters and more on the non voters.

People didn't vote because they felt like Harris was not worth voting for. She lost because she didn't actually offer anyone what they wanted, she was just a harm reduction candidate at best. That isn't sufficiently motivating to get people out to vote, no matter how much we rant and yell and shame people.

Please, I am begging you, accept this reality. I want Trump and the Republicans gone probably even more than you do. I am trying to help you understand that we lost for a very good reason and we need to learn from it.

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Arcanepotato crazypeople.online Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
Joined: 2025-05-24
#18 · Quote Reply

You can really see it ramp up in real time. The pro-china, pro-russia shit, the "both sides" shit, the "Dems don't do anything" shit. It's all bad actors making false equivalency arguments. Motherfuckers act like trump take 3 is gonna be better. Fuck off. Vote blue. Period. Call me out if you want, but if you vote red, if you vote third party, you are part of the problem. The system isn't set u...

Wish it wasn't that way, but it is, so you gotta go what you gotta do and vote blue, no matter how much you want to be a tankie slut.

damn you sure set me straight mister, I wouldn't want to be a slut

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-07-09
#19 · Quote Reply

People didn't vote because they felt like Harris was not worth voting for. She lost because she didn't actually offer anyone what they wanted, she was just a harm reduction candidate at best. That isn't sufficiently motivating to get people out to vote, no matter how much we rant and yell and shame people. Please, I am begging you, accept this reality. I want Trump and the Republicans gone prob...

I think she would have did a good job personally.

No war in Iran and no brownshirts shooting Americans in the streets.

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Clent lemmy.dbzer0.com Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-12-13
#20 · Quote Reply

The image is about ice and the quotes are about impeachment. Nice use of right wing tactics.

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Boo! Haunted House! lemmy.world lemmyng@lemmy.world
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#21 · Quote Reply

Sure, but first we need to drive Jeffries and Schumer out of the House/Senate.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#22 · Quote Reply

I think she would have did a good job personally. No war in Iran and no brownshirts shooting Americans in the streets.

What you think, and whether she would have done a good job, is completely irrelevant. Do you not understand my point? You win elections by having a candidate that people want to vote for, usually by advancing policies which are popular.

The genocide in Gaza is now like a 90/10 issue. It is known that it was a factor in why Kamala lost the election. If she had opposed the genocide, it is very possible that she would have won.

I am not shitting on Democrats just for fun. I am trying to explain that Trump won because the Democrats advanced a shit, genocidal candidate.

If you let them do the same thing again in 2028, we very well may see a Republican President even worse than Trump.

Please, demand more than the bare minimum.

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#23 · Quote Reply

Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts or I’ll do my best to kneecap the only viable opposition and empower MAGA and Trump!

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TropicalDingdong lemmy.world TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-29
#24 · Quote Reply

The Democrats empowered MAGA and Trump by running a completely non-viable candidate. Stop blaming voters for the failure of the Democratic party. This is all on them, 100%.

No it's projection which is why it's hilarious. Cumfart spent his 2024 kneecapping any opposition to Biden and the status quo, leaving us with the only possible option which could lose to fascism.

Don't let them fool you, Cumfart is a fascist. They would just prefer it be their preferred fascists at the helm.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
Joined: 2025-07-09
#25 · Quote Reply

What you think, and whether she would have done a good job, is completely irrelevant. Do you not understand my point? You win elections by having a candidate that people want to vote for, usually by advancing policies which are popular. The genocide in Gaza is now like a 90/10 issue. It is known that it was a factor in why Kamala lost the election. If she had opposed the genocide, it is very po...

Single issue voters are the worse and the only reason we’ll have a republican president in 2028 is if people try to suppress the democratic vote again.

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chemical_cutthroat lemmy.world chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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#26 · (edited) Quote Reply

Wish it wasn't that way, but it is, so you gotta go what you gotta do and vote blue, no matter how much you want to be a tankie slut. damn you sure set me straight mister, I wouldn't want to be a slut

Live your life, King.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
Joined: 2025-02-25
#27 · Quote Reply

Single issue voters are the worse and the only reason we’ll have a republican president in 2028 is if people try to suppress the democratic vote again.

Keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better. I'll be over here, in the real world, fighting for a better world.

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Alcoholicorn mander.xyz Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
Joined: 2025-06-24
#28 · Quote Reply

Single issue voters are the worse and the only reason we’ll have a republican president in 2028 is if people try to suppress the democratic vote again.

You know what really suppresses votes? Genocide. Supporting the continued existence of the organization that is abducting your neighbors. Not being able to afford healthcare and having the D candidate not even lie about wanting free healthcare.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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#29 · Quote Reply

Keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better. I'll be over here, in the real world, fighting for a better world.

Give me someone better to vote for who has a chance of winning and I’ll vote for them.

Until then I’m going to vote for the people with a chance to fix this country.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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#30 · Quote Reply

You know what really suppresses votes? Genocide. Supporting the continued existence of the organization that is abducting your neighbors. Not being able to afford healthcare and having the D candidate not even lie about wanting free healthcare.

I’ve only seen the genocides get worse since Trump won so that’s a hard reality to sell.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
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#31 · (edited) Quote Reply

Give me someone better to vote for who has a chance of winning and I’ll vote for them. Until then I’m going to vote for the people with a chance to fix this country.

Well, hopefully a socialist candidate can win the primary. If it's fucking Harris or Newsom or some neoliberal right wing/centrist shitlib we will be completely, 100%, unbelievably, irredeemably fucked by 2036.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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#32 · Quote Reply

Well, hopefully a socialist candidate can win the primary. If it's fucking Harris or Newsom or some neoliberal right wing/centrist shitlib we will be completely, 100%, unbelievably, irredeemably fucked by 2036.

If a socialist wins the primary it’s a guaranteed Republican win.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
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#33 · (edited) Quote Reply

If a socialist wins the primary it’s a guaranteed Republican win.

Mamdani won in NYC. Demographic shift is very much changing the electoral landscape.

The choice is between socialism, or fascism. I am hopeful that socialism will win the day. We'll just have to wait and see.

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Alcoholicorn mander.xyz Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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#34 · Quote Reply

I’ve only seen the genocides get worse since Trump won so that’s a hard reality to sell.

So it should be the easiest fucking layup in the world to run on reversing all of Trump's policies, using every means at your disposal instead of crying how powerless the literal fucking president is. But that didn't happen under Obama, or Biden, and the dems still refuse to admit they did anything wrong and course-correct.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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#35 · Quote Reply

Mamdani won in NYC. Demographic shift is very much changing the electoral landscape. The choice is between socialism, or fascism. I am hopeful that socialism will win the day. We'll just have to wait and see.

Mamdani won against Cuomo.

I could have won against Cuomo.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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#36 · Quote Reply

So it should be the easiest fucking layup in the world to run on reversing all of Trump's policies, using every means at your disposal instead of crying how powerless the literal fucking president is. But that didn't happen under Obama, or Biden, and the dems still refuse to admit they did anything wrong and course-correct.

Obama brought in the biggest positive chance to American healthcare in modern times and Biden’s policies were more progressive then his.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
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#37 · Quote Reply

Mamdani won against Cuomo. I could have won against Cuomo.

Underestimate the Cuomintang at your peril.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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#38 · Quote Reply

Underestimate the Cuomintang at your peril.

The what?

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starik lemmy.zip starik@lemmy.zip
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#39 · (edited) Quote Reply

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
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#40 · (edited) Quote Reply

The what?

The Cuomintang

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SatansMaggotyCumFart piefed.world SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world
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#41 · Quote Reply

The Cuomintang

Still don’t get it but I’m not a smart person.

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drosophila lemmy.blahaj.zone drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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#42 · Quote Reply

I don't like it, either, but it's politically the smart thing to do (EDIT: I'm referring to not seeking impeachment here - ICE still needs to go for sure). Rather than reignite the partisan wars, show the less extreme Trump supporters that the other side is actually prioritizing "the people" & their needs more than Trump ever did - it'll do more to win their support than attacking "their si...

show the less extreme Trump supporters

Doesn't exist

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Alcoholicorn mander.xyz Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz
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#43 · Quote Reply

Obama brought in the biggest positive chance to American healthcare in modern times and Biden’s policies were more progressive then his.

Tons of people still forgo or delay healthcare because they know or fear it will cost too much. This is the failure you should expect when you relabel a republican policy and pass it as progressive, after slapping on extra means-testing and weird, complex, market-based solutions in the moronic belief that this centrist model will appeal to both republicans and democrats, instead of just giving people free healthcare and appealing to everybody who likes having healthcare and money.

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bearboiblake [he/him] pawb.social bearboiblake@pawb.social
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#44 · Quote Reply

Still don’t get it but I’m not a smart person.

I believe in you, you can figure it out!

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#45 · Quote Reply

You can really see it ramp up in real time. The pro-china, pro-russia shit, the "both sides" shit, the "Dems don't do anything" shit. It's all bad actors making false equivalency arguments. Motherfuckers act like trump take 3 is gonna be better. Fuck off. Vote blue. Period. Call me out if you want, but if you vote red, if you vote third party, you are part of the problem. The system isn't set u...
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underisk lemmy.ml underisk@lemmy.ml
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#46 · (edited) Quote Reply

They probably won't do shit about cost of living either. The only time it's gone down in the past 20 years was in 2009 after the housing market crashed. That likely had more to do with the recession; and if anything the Democrats' actions were a hindrance to that reduction.

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chemical_cutthroat lemmy.world chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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#47 · Quote Reply

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I'm not sure what you are saying with this. Mamdani ran as a Democrat. Cuomo switched and ran independant when Mamdani beat him in the primary. So, a Democrat won, instead of a third party. Which is exactly what I said in my post. Am I misreading what you've said?

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chemical_cutthroat lemmy.world chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world
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#48 · Quote Reply

I’m not american so you’re extra wasting your time arguing

I'm just repeating it, so everyone can see the foreign actor trying to divide the country. You know, like a cunt.

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Ensign_Crab lemmy.world Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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#49 · Quote Reply

Hell nah, I’m not doing this tonight. Perfection is the enemy of progress or something.

You got the genocide you consider perfection.

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Ensign_Crab lemmy.world Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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#50 · Quote Reply

Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts or I’ll do my best to kneecap the only viable opposition and empower MAGA and Trump!

Harris chose a losing policy. She lost.

Not that any centrist has read this far, but I voted for her. I fully expect abuse from people who made the assumption that I didn't as soon as I said she chose a losing policy.

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Ensign_Crab lemmy.world Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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#51 · Quote Reply

That non viable candidate almost won and the world would be a better place if she did. I’d say this was less on the voters and more on the non voters.

That non viable candidate almost won and the world would be a better place if she did.

But she chose a losing policy and lost. The entire left was telling you she was going to lose. But the left isn't netanyahu, so centrists didn't listen.

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