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Arcanepotato
crazypeople.online
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineJoined: 2025-05-24 |
(Obligatory https://readsettlers.org/ ) PS this is low effort memes, I'm not going to defend the meme in the comments - feel free to argue with yourselves Edit: I'm not american so you're extra wasting your time arguing 🤷♀️ |
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SanctimoniousApe
lemmings.world
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world Joined: 2024-08-17 |
I don't like it, either, but it's politically the smart thing to do (EDIT: I'm referring to not seeking impeachment here - ICE still needs to go for sure). Rather than reignite the partisan wars, show the less extreme Trump supporters that the other side is actually prioritizing "the people" & their needs more than Trump ever did - it'll do more to win their support than attacking "their side" ever will. |
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UsernameHere
lemmy.world
UsernameHere@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-05-01 |
The majority of voters don’t want to abolish ICE. Just like they didn’t want to defund the police. They want police to follow the law and be held accountable and ICE to not be used as Trump’s personal army. This seems like an attempt to make leftists look bad by pushing a sentiment that is unpopular with voters |
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blarth
thelemmy.club
blarth@thelemmy.club Joined: 2024-03-16 |
Nah we’re not doing this “genocide Joe” bullshit again. |
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ArbitraryValue
sh.itjust.works
ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-06 |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
I don't like it, either, but it's politically the smart thing to do (EDIT: I'm referring to not seeking impeachment here - ICE still needs to go for sure). Rather than reignite the partisan wars, show the less extreme Trump supporters that the other side is actually prioritizing "the people" & their needs more than Trump ever did - it'll do more to win their support than attacking "their si...
I disagree. Democrats need to appeal not to reactionary right-wing or centrists, but rather people who did not vote, by using left-wing populist messaging to counter right-wing populism. Look at the success of Mamdami as a template. That's how we win - with candidates who are actually worth voting for, with policies that actively improve the lives of the working class, rather than the totally failed tactic of appealing to some mythical moderate voter with the "we're slightly less terrible than the republicans" approach. |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
Nah we’re not doing this “genocide Joe” bullshit again.
Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts, then. Otherwise leftists such as myself will continue to endlessly effort post and create a scene. You need to accept that the shitlib/radical centrist coalition is insufficient to get Democrats to win elections, as clearly demonstrated by Biden/Harris completely failing. You need to push the Democrats to the left. You need to have a candidate actually worth voting for, someone who actually excites the electorate to go out and vote to improve their lives, not just the "technically better than Trump" candidate. That doesn't win elections, no matter how much you rant and rave and shame people. Deal with this reality, or accept endless Republican victories. |
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SanctimoniousApe
lemmings.world
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world Joined: 2024-08-17 |
I disagree. Democrats need to appeal not to reactionary right-wing or centrists, but rather people who did not vote, by using left-wing populist messaging to counter right-wing populism. Look at the success of Mamdami as a template. That's how we win - with candidates who are actually worth voting for, with policies that actively improve the lives of the working class, rather than the totally f...
I don't disagree with that, and I'm not saying Trumpers should be a priority, but attacking him is only going to stir up anger without accomplishing anything truly positive at this point. Plus Trump is at least a thorn in the puppet-masters" sides with his randomness, while Vance would be a good little boy and do exactly what he's told by his handlers. I prefer Trump continue fucking up their plans a bit. |
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blarth
thelemmy.club
blarth@thelemmy.club Joined: 2024-03-16 |
Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts, then. Otherwise leftists such as myself will continue to endlessly effort post and create a scene. You need to accept that the shitlib/radical centrist coalition is insufficient to get Democrats to win elections, as clearly demonstrated by Biden/Harris completely failing. You need to push the Democrats to the left. You need to have a candidate actua...
Hell nah, I’m not doing this tonight. Perfection is the enemy of progress or something. |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
I don't disagree with that, and I'm not saying Trumpers should be a priority, but attacking him is only going to stir up anger without accomplishing anything truly positive at this point. Plus Trump is at least a thorn in the puppet-masters" sides with his randomness, while Vance would be a good little boy and do exactly what he's told by his handlers. I prefer Trump continue fucking up their p...
oh, I think I misunderstood, I thought you were saying that the left shouldn't abolish ICE. I agree that removing Trump from office wouldn't be worthwhile. |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
Hell nah, I’m not doing this tonight. Perfection is the enemy of progress or something.
If you think electing a genocidal democrat is progress, as far as I'm concerned, you are as much an enemy of mine as a MAGA supporter is. I am not asking for perfection. The bar is literally underground. We are talking about fucking genocide, here, not microaggressions. This shit is literally how Trump got into power. You need to blame the Democrats for this. It was an entirely unforced defeat, all because Biden/Harris needed to dickride Israel directly into hell. Fuck. That. |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts, then. Otherwise leftists such as myself will continue to endlessly effort post and create a scene. You need to accept that the shitlib/radical centrist coalition is insufficient to get Democrats to win elections, as clearly demonstrated by Biden/Harris completely failing. You need to push the Democrats to the left. You need to have a candidate actua...
Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts or I’ll do my best to kneecap the only viable opposition and empower MAGA and Trump! |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts or I’ll do my best to kneecap the only viable opposition and empower MAGA and Trump!
The Democrats empowered MAGA and Trump by running a completely non-viable candidate. Stop blaming voters for the failure of the Democratic party. This is all on them, 100%. |
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SanctimoniousApe
lemmings.world
SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world Joined: 2024-08-17 |
oh, I think I misunderstood, I thought you were saying that the left shouldn't abolish ICE. I agree that removing Trump from office wouldn't be worthwhile.
Ah, no - I was just referring to the impeachment. ICE - at least in anything vaguely resembling its current form - definitely needs to go. |
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chemical_cutthroat
lemmy.world
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-10 |
You can really see it ramp up in real time. The pro-china, pro-russia shit, the "both sides" shit, the "Dems don't do anything" shit. It's all bad actors making false equivalency arguments. Motherfuckers act like trump take 3 is gonna be better. Fuck off. Vote blue. Period. Call me out if you want, but if you vote red, if you vote third party, you are part of the problem. The system isn't set up for a third party, so if you do that, you only help the party that wouldn't have gotten your vote otherwise. Wish it wasn't that way, but it is, so you gotta go what you gotta do and vote blue, no matter how much you want to be a tankie slut. |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
The Democrats empowered MAGA and Trump by running a completely non-viable candidate. Stop blaming voters for the failure of the Democratic party. This is all on them, 100%.
That non viable candidate almost won and the world would be a better place if she did. I’d say this was less on the voters and more on the non voters. |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
That non viable candidate almost won and the world would be a better place if she did. I’d say this was less on the voters and more on the non voters.
People didn't vote because they felt like Harris was not worth voting for. She lost because she didn't actually offer anyone what they wanted, she was just a harm reduction candidate at best. That isn't sufficiently motivating to get people out to vote, no matter how much we rant and yell and shame people. Please, I am begging you, accept this reality. I want Trump and the Republicans gone probably even more than you do. I am trying to help you understand that we lost for a very good reason and we need to learn from it. |
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Arcanepotato
crazypeople.online
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.onlineJoined: 2025-05-24 |
You can really see it ramp up in real time. The pro-china, pro-russia shit, the "both sides" shit, the "Dems don't do anything" shit. It's all bad actors making false equivalency arguments. Motherfuckers act like trump take 3 is gonna be better. Fuck off. Vote blue. Period. Call me out if you want, but if you vote red, if you vote third party, you are part of the problem. The system isn't set u...
damn you sure set me straight mister, I wouldn't want to be a slut |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
People didn't vote because they felt like Harris was not worth voting for. She lost because she didn't actually offer anyone what they wanted, she was just a harm reduction candidate at best. That isn't sufficiently motivating to get people out to vote, no matter how much we rant and yell and shame people. Please, I am begging you, accept this reality. I want Trump and the Republicans gone prob...
I think she would have did a good job personally. No war in Iran and no brownshirts shooting Americans in the streets. |
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Clent
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-12-13 |
The image is about ice and the quotes are about impeachment. Nice use of right wing tactics. |
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Boo! Haunted House!
lemmy.world
lemmyng@lemmy.worldJoined: 2025-03-16 |
Sure, but first we need to drive Jeffries and Schumer out of the House/Senate. |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
I think she would have did a good job personally. No war in Iran and no brownshirts shooting Americans in the streets.
What you think, and whether she would have done a good job, is completely irrelevant. Do you not understand my point? You win elections by having a candidate that people want to vote for, usually by advancing policies which are popular. The genocide in Gaza is now like a 90/10 issue. It is known that it was a factor in why Kamala lost the election. If she had opposed the genocide, it is very possible that she would have won. I am not shitting on Democrats just for fun. I am trying to explain that Trump won because the Democrats advanced a shit, genocidal candidate. If you let them do the same thing again in 2028, we very well may see a Republican President even worse than Trump. Please, demand more than the bare minimum. |
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TropicalDingdong
lemmy.world
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts or I’ll do my best to kneecap the only viable opposition and empower MAGA and Trump!
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TropicalDingdong
lemmy.world
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-07-29 |
The Democrats empowered MAGA and Trump by running a completely non-viable candidate. Stop blaming voters for the failure of the Democratic party. This is all on them, 100%.
No it's projection which is why it's hilarious. Cumfart spent his 2024 kneecapping any opposition to Biden and the status quo, leaving us with the only possible option which could lose to fascism. Don't let them fool you, Cumfart is a fascist. They would just prefer it be their preferred fascists at the helm. |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
What you think, and whether she would have done a good job, is completely irrelevant. Do you not understand my point? You win elections by having a candidate that people want to vote for, usually by advancing policies which are popular. The genocide in Gaza is now like a 90/10 issue. It is known that it was a factor in why Kamala lost the election. If she had opposed the genocide, it is very po...
Single issue voters are the worse and the only reason we’ll have a republican president in 2028 is if people try to suppress the democratic vote again. |
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chemical_cutthroat
lemmy.world
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-10 |
Wish it wasn't that way, but it is, so you gotta go what you gotta do and vote blue, no matter how much you want to be a tankie slut. damn you sure set me straight mister, I wouldn't want to be a slut
Live your life, King. |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
Single issue voters are the worse and the only reason we’ll have a republican president in 2028 is if people try to suppress the democratic vote again.
Keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better. I'll be over here, in the real world, fighting for a better world. |
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Alcoholicorn
mander.xyz
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-06-24 |
Single issue voters are the worse and the only reason we’ll have a republican president in 2028 is if people try to suppress the democratic vote again.
You know what really suppresses votes? Genocide. Supporting the continued existence of the organization that is abducting your neighbors. Not being able to afford healthcare and having the D candidate not even lie about wanting free healthcare. |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
Keep telling yourself whatever makes you feel better. I'll be over here, in the real world, fighting for a better world.
Give me someone better to vote for who has a chance of winning and I’ll vote for them. Until then I’m going to vote for the people with a chance to fix this country. |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
You know what really suppresses votes? Genocide. Supporting the continued existence of the organization that is abducting your neighbors. Not being able to afford healthcare and having the D candidate not even lie about wanting free healthcare.
I’ve only seen the genocides get worse since Trump won so that’s a hard reality to sell. |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
Give me someone better to vote for who has a chance of winning and I’ll vote for them. Until then I’m going to vote for the people with a chance to fix this country.
Well, hopefully a socialist candidate can win the primary. If it's fucking Harris or Newsom or some neoliberal right wing/centrist shitlib we will be completely, 100%, unbelievably, irredeemably fucked by 2036. |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
Well, hopefully a socialist candidate can win the primary. If it's fucking Harris or Newsom or some neoliberal right wing/centrist shitlib we will be completely, 100%, unbelievably, irredeemably fucked by 2036.
If a socialist wins the primary it’s a guaranteed Republican win. |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
If a socialist wins the primary it’s a guaranteed Republican win.
Mamdani won in NYC. Demographic shift is very much changing the electoral landscape. The choice is between socialism, or fascism. I am hopeful that socialism will win the day. We'll just have to wait and see. |
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Alcoholicorn
mander.xyz
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-06-24 |
I’ve only seen the genocides get worse since Trump won so that’s a hard reality to sell.
So it should be the easiest fucking layup in the world to run on reversing all of Trump's policies, using every means at your disposal instead of crying how powerless the literal fucking president is. But that didn't happen under Obama, or Biden, and the dems still refuse to admit they did anything wrong and course-correct. |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
Mamdani won in NYC. Demographic shift is very much changing the electoral landscape. The choice is between socialism, or fascism. I am hopeful that socialism will win the day. We'll just have to wait and see.
Mamdani won against Cuomo. I could have won against Cuomo. |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
So it should be the easiest fucking layup in the world to run on reversing all of Trump's policies, using every means at your disposal instead of crying how powerless the literal fucking president is. But that didn't happen under Obama, or Biden, and the dems still refuse to admit they did anything wrong and course-correct.
Obama brought in the biggest positive chance to American healthcare in modern times and Biden’s policies were more progressive then his. |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
Mamdani won against Cuomo. I could have won against Cuomo.
Underestimate the Cuomintang at your peril. |
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
Underestimate the Cuomintang at your peril.
The what? |
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starik
lemmy.zip
starik@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-12-08 |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
The what?
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SatansMaggotyCumFart
piefed.world
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world Joined: 2025-07-09 |
The Cuomintang
Still don’t get it but I’m not a smart person. |
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drosophila
lemmy.blahaj.zone
drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone Joined: 2024-05-29 |
I don't like it, either, but it's politically the smart thing to do (EDIT: I'm referring to not seeking impeachment here - ICE still needs to go for sure). Rather than reignite the partisan wars, show the less extreme Trump supporters that the other side is actually prioritizing "the people" & their needs more than Trump ever did - it'll do more to win their support than attacking "their si...
Doesn't exist |
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Alcoholicorn
mander.xyz
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-06-24 |
Obama brought in the biggest positive chance to American healthcare in modern times and Biden’s policies were more progressive then his.
Tons of people still forgo or delay healthcare because they know or fear it will cost too much. This is the failure you should expect when you relabel a republican policy and pass it as progressive, after slapping on extra means-testing and weird, complex, market-based solutions in the moronic belief that this centrist model will appeal to both republicans and democrats, instead of just giving people free healthcare and appealing to everybody who likes having healthcare and money. |
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bearboiblake [he/him]
pawb.social
bearboiblake@pawb.socialJoined: 2025-02-25 |
Still don’t get it but I’m not a smart person.
I believe in you, you can figure it out! |
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Riverside
reddthat.com
Riverside@reddthat.com Joined: 2026-01-20 |
You can really see it ramp up in real time. The pro-china, pro-russia shit, the "both sides" shit, the "Dems don't do anything" shit. It's all bad actors making false equivalency arguments. Motherfuckers act like trump take 3 is gonna be better. Fuck off. Vote blue. Period. Call me out if you want, but if you vote red, if you vote third party, you are part of the problem. The system isn't set u...
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underisk
lemmy.ml
underisk@lemmy.mlJoined: 2023-06-10 |
They probably won't do shit about cost of living either. The only time it's gone down in the past 20 years was in 2009 after the housing market crashed. That likely had more to do with the recession; and if anything the Democrats' actions were a hindrance to that reduction. |
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chemical_cutthroat
lemmy.world
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-10 |
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I'm not sure what you are saying with this. Mamdani ran as a Democrat. Cuomo switched and ran independant when Mamdani beat him in the primary. So, a Democrat won, instead of a third party. Which is exactly what I said in my post. Am I misreading what you've said? |
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chemical_cutthroat
lemmy.world
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-10 |
I'm just repeating it, so everyone can see the foreign actor trying to divide the country. You know, like a cunt. |
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Ensign_Crab
lemmy.world
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
Hell nah, I’m not doing this tonight. Perfection is the enemy of progress or something.
You got the genocide you consider perfection. |
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Ensign_Crab
lemmy.world
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
Stop supporting and enabling genocidal cunts or I’ll do my best to kneecap the only viable opposition and empower MAGA and Trump!
Harris chose a losing policy. She lost. Not that any centrist has read this far, but I voted for her. I fully expect abuse from people who made the assumption that I didn't as soon as I said she chose a losing policy. |
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Ensign_Crab
lemmy.world
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-29 |
That non viable candidate almost won and the world would be a better place if she did. I’d say this was less on the voters and more on the non voters.
But she chose a losing policy and lost. The entire left was telling you she was going to lose. But the left isn't netanyahu, so centrists didn't listen. |
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