Yeah and the bullets they use won't be a request either, try not to get killed please.

Some very good organization. That's a lot of people which means a lot of room for error.

Too bad our government was just like, we'll pardon your war crimes and forget you're a Nazi if you're good at science and can help us do science things better than other countries!

No it's fact. Not voting supports the less good candidate 100% of the time in FPtP.

And yes, non voters are more responsible for this than the DNC sending a shit message. If non voters and third party voted Kamala, we wouldn't have a dictator in the White house right now. The DNC didn't put him there, voters for Trump and non voters did.

Yea, I saw that after processing the comment. Still, I want people that may be unaware and read the comment chain to understand the reality. Silence is complacency.

Did so, question remains.

I agree, but if given the choice between error and fascism, I’ll take error.

Do third party voters come in between those two options or after "didn't vote"?

Seriously, it's all true. It is the fault of Trump Voters, the DNC, 3rd party voters, and non-voters.

Hell, I'll go one further and say those who do nothing but vote for the most progressive Dem in the primary and then vote for the Dem no matter who it is AND that is all they have ever done to address how terrible the Dem party is, also share in the blame.

Pretty much everyone has done this historically, fuck even Rome did it. Smart people are often times worth their weight in gold especially if they made life annoying for you and your army, so they basically fall into the category of war loot.

Also it's usually a either you join us or we kill you situation.

Those freedom seeds can go both directions.

It's unbelievable that Minnesota Dems are trying to push though some of the worst gun grabbing legislature of the century. At the time nazis are literally at the front steps.

The system is rigged against this. The majority are 2 weeks away from lights out or kicked out.

No it's fact. Not voting supports the less good candidate 100% of the time in FPtP.

What are you talking about? It's pretty rich to accuse others of lacking critical thinking and then come out with this. Someone who didn't vote could have equally been someone who didn't vote for trump. You mean "someone who was going to vote for the democrats but then didn't".

The DNC purposefully threw the election. They are the ones with agency here. Each non voter might have gotten them 0.00001% closer to winning. They could have gotten themselves 100% closer.

Yeah, we did, and the people who purposefully threw the election rather than compromise one bit with what the people wanted are responsible.

The history of denazifying Germany shows that the Allies were torn on this.

To summerize:

Russia "Okay, let's kill all the Germans."
Britain "Oh, but then we're no better than them. We must make due process for all the Nazis."
USA "Yeah, I don't think either of you understand the scale of this."

And the Americans was right. A due process would have taken centuries, and nobody wanted to pay for it.

So that's why the Nuremberg trials only reached the top of the iceberg and millions of Nazis got away with no other punishment than memories of shame.

I think that tells you everything you need to know.... It's a big club and you ain't in it! Time to form a new party for the working class.

and don't thing because the US is hosting world sport events they are any different than Germany at that time, because Germany held the Olympics in 1936, at the height of their nazi power

And yet we are the ones to suffer the consequences. Who cares who's "responsible"? What matters is who is affected.

Then get out there and organize. It takes you.

So fight off the ones that would kick people out and replace the ones that would turn the lights off.

Because if you want anything to change, the pressure has got to be applied in the right direction. If people just keep blaming their neighbours, of course no politician will ever feel like they have to do anything to improve things.

This isn't reddit where bloodlusting fuckwits like you are cool and praised for making cringe statement as a gotcha.

Stop bootlicking the oligarchy. Maybe grow some spine.

People who think this is reddit and they're winnning with these non-argument gotchas are hilariously sad.

Thankfully, I’m not from the USA nor will I ever travel there again.

I will, however, work against the interests of its long-running bloody empire.

"Just change the whole economic and governmental system you live under"

I know this is meant to refer to eating the paper but what if someone ate the food. Like munching on celery while ICE pulls you out your window.

May they all be free from this soon

This is a matter of statistics. Statistically, what I'm saying is a fact. You don't have to like it, but voters and non voters decided the election, not the DNC. The DNC sucks, but they didn't cast votes for Trump and didn't sit out the election. They carry blame for dissuading voters, but it's still all comes back to those voters. The DNC could have said probably anything, and it shouldn't have mattered because it was still Kamala v Trump. Anyone that didn't vote because of the words of a bunch of old fools when the candidates were right there to see, is an idiot.

Don't WORRY! Their Leaders are EAGER and WILLING to Protect them in ANY way Possible!

A huge percentage of unions in Minnesota are reporting not being able to pay rent next week.

I think the Russians did the best job.

We actually kind of have the alternative to that as well. In Iraq the US took all members of the Baath party of Hussein. It was very clearly a horrible organization, which commited genocide and many other crimes, but doing so removed all sorts of people from power, which had usefull skills and kind of needed to be party members. For example when you built roads, you really need engineers in the government to check if that road is actually going to be built correctly. Even worse they through the secret service and military members into the same prison as islamic terrorists. So when the US left Iraq, those terrorists got access to people with a very particular set of skills.

Really the only way to go about it, is to built up the alternative in the back, trial the worsed cases and keep the Nazis or whatever other evil group from gaining power.

Cool, cool. Hey can you link that article? Kthx.

That is the argument everytime they try to tell people not to vote. Which is not only contradictory it's just delusional.

"ANGANGANGANG YOU'LL NEVER TAKE THESE GROCERIES"

Yes, exactly, now you get it.

It's either that or waiting for the fascists to murder you. So get to it.

"Just move a mountain with your hands" you first bud

and didn't sit out the election

Wrong. They made a deliberate choice to pursue a platform that would lose them the election because they care more about killing children overseas than they care about not killing children at home. You don't have to like it, but that's what's a fact.

"In the United States of America".

The birthplace of freedom and democracy. The beacon of light and justice in the world. So strange that it is happening over there. Who could have seen this coming?

One could expect this to happen anywhere, but in the United States of America? No way.

• ice tailing gig worker delivery drivers: https://amicacenter.org/press/ice-targets-app-delivery-drivers-and-the-tech-giants-they-work-for-stay-silent/
• ice protestors tailing ice agents tailing anti-ice protestors (frequently engaged in deliveries, though these became entirely seperate roles after it was realized ice was running everyone's plates): https://apnews.com/article/protests-activists-minnesota-immigration-enforcement-ice-f86ce49f26230a1e5ad1592dcac0a5a9

unfortunately i'm having a touch of trouble finding the articles that documented what the protestors were responding to, so i'll get why you would think this saw no coverage. maaan i cannot stand this moratorium on info about ice operations. this is stuff i've been following closely so i'll try to save a link if i find something better

What ICE is doing now is just a louder and more brazen version of what they have been doing since their inception.

The problem is that most of us that would protest are not in a financial position to do so. If I participate in a work strike, I won't make the money I need to pay my bills, I'll be evicted, I'll go hungry, I won't be able to feed the family or the pets I will go destitute long before actual change happens. I'm not just making sacrifices, I am making that decision for my whole family. And that's just the surface level changes. I cannot afford to leave where I am currently. I believe that is all by design and I am not even close to the minority situation.

Liberals sabotaging themselves, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

Yeah, its not a viable option for everyone. Clandestine methods are an option.

In France, they light things on fire.

Reason ~ why I won't watch the Olympics.

I'm not American so I can't help directly.

Still, while I obviously can't write here what I'm doing, I'm confident it qualifies as "me going first". If we were with more people, we could do more than make the news a couple times per year.

So... you next?

Thank you!