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Zink programming.dev Zink@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-08-08
#52 · Quote Reply

When the president of the united states is held to zero accountability and no one seems to care. Why would these assholes?

Oh they do care, just in the wrong way.

In the business world "benchmarking" basically means "let's copy what the successful people do, so that line go up"

In their robotic, amoral view of the world, they see one of the most successful people on the planet (according to their definition of success) constantly spouting obvious lies and being surrounded by sycophants while getting elected twice and grifting billions and facing no punishments. Maybe if the tech CEOs get rich enough and their companies get important enough, they can join his club.

Ohhh, and they must be how we get oligarchies!

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lmmarsano group.lt lmmarsano@group.lt
Joined: 2026-01-01
#53 · Quote Reply

Post headline deserves a downvote. Quote from article: Lanier asked Mosseri what he thought of K.G.M's longest single day of use of Instagram being 16 hours. "That sounds like problematic use," the Instagram boss answered. He did not call it an addiction. He also didn’t say it was a tomato. Like wtf do you want, I can’t tell if he was asked specifically if 16 hours a day was an addiction. The p...

This is sensationalist BS and I dearly want this platform to be better than that.

This platform loves sensationalism.
Same with other platforms.

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Analog lemmy.ml Analog@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-03-04
#54 · Quote Reply

Yeah, that was some serious ninja editing.

What editing? Didn’t edit either if those posts.

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BarneyPiccolo lemmy.today BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-30
#55 · Quote Reply

They want to be an integral part of our lives, like thinking, except they'll take the place of thinking, or talking, or even looking around.

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Doomsider lemmy.world Doomsider@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-01
#56 · Quote Reply

What editing? Didn’t edit either if those posts.

The comments I replied to were heavily edited after I replied. You can comment at the bottom with an Edit: and then explain what you changed. Otherwise, it is known as a ninja edit and it is generally frowned upon because it makes the conversations convoluted. Cheers!

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ArcaneSlime lemmy.dbzer0.com ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2023-06-30
#57 · Quote Reply

"Because like 10hr of that is background usage while we harvest your data."

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lmmarsano group.lt lmmarsano@group.lt
Joined: 2026-01-01
#58 · Quote Reply

The title is accurate. He was asked if it was an addiction, and he repeatedly used technicalities and weaseley language to refuse to admit it. "It's important to differentiate between clinical addiction and problematic use," [Instagram head Adam Mosseri] added. "I'm sure I've said that I've been addicted to a Netflix show when I binged it really late one night, but I don't think it's the same t...

he repeatedly used technicalities and weaseley language to refuse to admit it

see

Yet, Mosseri repeatedly said he was not an expert in addiction in response to Lanier’s questioning.

Even if a nonexpert claims something is clinical addiction, they're a nonexpert & their word is meaningless.
For a credible statement, they'll need to admit relevant evidence instead of ask a nonexpert.

Imagine being asked for a medical diagnosis when you're not a qualified physician.
It's perfectly fair to point out you're not an expert on the matter & point out your awareness of distinctions between imprecise conventional language & precise, scientific definitions.

No one is obligated to volunteer dubious claims to antagonize themselves on the stand just because you want them to.

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GreenBottles lemmy.world sturmblast@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-07
#59 · Quote Reply

Life is better without selling your data.

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-23
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#60 · Quote Reply

he repeatedly used technicalities and weaseley language to refuse to admit it see Yet, Mosseri repeatedly said he was not an expert in addiction in response to Lanier’s questioning. Even if a nonexpert claims something is clinical addiction, they're a nonexpert & their word is meaningless. For a credible statement, they'll need to admit relevant evidence instead of ask a nonexpert. Imagine ...

Pam Bondi, is that you?

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vane lemmy.world vane@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-11-26
#61 · Quote Reply

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RisingSwell lemmy.dbzer0.com RisingSwell@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-20
#62 · Quote Reply

All I do is play fucking games and even 16 hours of that is absurd unless I'm specifically trying to force my sleep pattern into something usable again.

I've definitely hit 16 hr days before for gaming but it's rare as hell. Warframe, Runescape and Minecraft are probably the only 3 to hit that peak, and I'm definitely not a functioning human during that time.

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NottaLottaOcelot lemmy.ca NottaLottaOcelot@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-02-12
#63 · Quote Reply

Well, it’s very simple, don’t you see?
When he makes money, it’s not addiction
When he makes no money, it’s addiction

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qarbone lemmy.world qarbone@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-02
#64 · Quote Reply

A system that benefits people who lie about objective facts should be destroyed.

If the tactical business decision is to look someone in the face and say "spending 2/3rds of a day, 16 whole hours, idly gazing at photos of anything is not an addiction" in order to protect business interests, then things are wrong. Addiction to a product should be met with horror! Oh no, how could this happen? Instead, it's part of the business model.

"Business" is a blight.

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-23
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#65 · Quote Reply

What editing? Didn’t edit either if those posts.

Since you care deeply about truth or something, when will you be correcting your comments that, at best, lack huge amounts of truth that change the contents you put forth? At best, you accidentally skipped multiple paragraphs that contradict your claims. At less best, you knew better.

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PissingIntoTheWind lemmy.world PissingIntoTheWind@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-09-22
#66 · Quote Reply

Congrats!

Thank you. And to anyone out there trying to quit. You have to try out vaping and then when you get sick of getting sticky from the juice. You’ll finally want to just stop.

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Scrollone feddit.it Scrollone@feddit.it
Joined: 2023-06-03
#67 · Quote Reply

I've definitely hit 16 hr days before for gaming but it's rare as hell. Warframe, Runescape and Minecraft are probably the only 3 to hit that peak, and I'm definitely not a functioning human during that time.

I still think that 16 hours of gaming are better than 16 hours of scrolling videos that are passively fetched to you.

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Tollana1234567 lemmy.today Tollana1234567@lemmy.today
Joined: 2025-06-04
#68 · Quote Reply

Instagram, really is ZUCKERBoRG using his puppets in his stead.

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imetators lemmy.dbzer0.com imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-10
#69 · Quote Reply

What did Snapchat and TikTok settle for? Did they just pay money to not to expose themselves in court? Or did they actually settled to FUCKING FINALLY crack down on addiction and other issues on their platform? (x) Doubt

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imetators lemmy.dbzer0.com imetators@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-10
#70 · Quote Reply

Life is better without selling your data.

Selling our data implies that we get to have profits.

Life is better without companies selling our data.

Might be tad more on point.

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Ibuthyr lemmy.wtf Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2024-05-05
#71 · Quote Reply

Bro I spend 4 hours a day gaming and I feel guilty enough to fuck over my sleep schedule and get some chores done. 16 hours????

Teenagers.

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lastlybutfirstly lemmy.world lastlybutfirstly@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-01-15
#72 · Quote Reply

The title is accurate. He was asked if it was an addiction, and he repeatedly used technicalities and weaseley language to refuse to admit it. "It's important to differentiate between clinical addiction and problematic use," [Instagram head Adam Mosseri] added. "I'm sure I've said that I've been addicted to a Netflix show when I binged it really late one night, but I don't think it's the same t...

He's right. Clinical addiction has nothing to do with how much you do something, it has to do with how much it causes problems in your life. I know everyone on Lemmy is tripping over their own hard ons to kill corporations, but there are people using lemmy 16 hours a day and if laws are passed to fight Internet addiction, they will not specifically target corporations. We all go down together. Just ask the creator of Urban Dead.

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TigerAce lemmy.dbzer0.com TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-06-13
#73 · Quote Reply

My dealer says the same

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Godric lemmy.world Godric@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-09
#74 · Quote Reply

Gotcha, I can do 16 hours of Insta on coke off the toilet seat and be OK. Thank you CDC!

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BadlyTimedLuck lemmy.world BadlyTimedLuck@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-05-09
#75 · Quote Reply

I dunno. I found it pretty addicting when I was holding both a vape and my phone, and I had doomscrolled for 9 hours till the battery died without having hit my vape once

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lechekaflan lemmy.world lechekaflan@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#76 · Quote Reply

Punchable face.

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CosmoNova lemmy.world CosmoNova@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-18
#77 · Quote Reply

He's right. Clinical addiction has nothing to do with how much you do something, it has to do with how much it causes problems in your life. I know everyone on Lemmy is tripping over their own hard ons to kill corporations, but there are people using lemmy 16 hours a day and if laws are passed to fight Internet addiction, they will not specifically target corporations. We all go down together. ...

I guess we could chalk it up to bad journalism because the example was purely anecdotal. It‘s frustrating for sure.

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atcorebcor sh.itjust.works atcorebcor@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2025-09-24
#78 · (edited) Quote Reply

A system that benefits people who lie about objective facts should be destroyed. If the tactical business decision is to look someone in the face and say "spending 2/3rds of a day, 16 whole hours, idly gazing at photos of anything is not an addiction" in order to protect business interests, then things are wrong. Addiction to a product should be met with horror! Oh no, how could this happen? In...

Are you sure it benefits him to say that? I think its not even a left vs right issue to recognize this is an issue. At least it sparks discussion and makes people criticize him.

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Blackmist feddit.uk Blackmist@feddit.uk
Joined: 2023-07-04
#79 · Quote Reply

Why does he look like Steve Carrell playing a sociopathic big tech asshole?

Like in Mountainhead.

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UltraGiGaGigantic lemmy.ml UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-08-23
#80 · Quote Reply

Of all my active addictions, none take 16 hours to satiate.

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UltraGiGaGigantic lemmy.ml UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-08-23
#81 · Quote Reply

Gotcha, I can do 16 hours of Insta on coke off the toilet seat and be OK. Thank you CDC!

16 hours of doing coke? Im never gonna financially recover from this.

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UltraGiGaGigantic lemmy.ml UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-08-23
#82 · Quote Reply

UltraViolence

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UltraGiGaGigantic lemmy.ml UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-08-23
#83 · Quote Reply

All I do is play fucking games and even 16 hours of that is absurd unless I'm specifically trying to force my sleep pattern into something usable again.

I wish I could game for 16 hours straight, but my flesh is spongey and weak.

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FatVegan leminal.space FatVegan@leminal.space
Joined: 2025-11-05
#84 · Quote Reply

Philip Morris: 1 pack of cigarettes per day is not addiction.

Yeah but i spend 0 hours a day on social media. There is someone out there that reads 16 hours a day and bo one calls books addictive.

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pimpampoom lemmy.zip pimpampoom@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-01-26
#85 · Quote Reply

Coming from a potential cocaine sniffing addict that’s not surprising

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Derpenheim lemmy.zip Derpenheim@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-03-07
#86 · Quote Reply

Teenagers.

Chores dont stop because you get older bud

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Constant Pain lemmy.world ConstantPain@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-10-04
#87 · Quote Reply

All CEOs of the big ones are sociopaths. It's by design.

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Potatar lemmy.world Potatar@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-06
#88 · Quote Reply

Guys you heard it here first: You can drink alcohol for 16 hours everyday and it's not addiction.

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kamen lemmy.world kamen@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-19
#89 · Quote Reply

This has to be rage bait. I feel like the less time I'm on there, the happier I am. Even the 30 minutes daily limit that I usually set for apps like that is time I'm never getting back.

The only reason I have an account to begin with is because I'm a photographer (even if just a hobbyist) and I like to have some presence in the circles I'm in. If it wasn't for that, I wouldn't be there at all.

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Ibuthyr lemmy.wtf Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf
Joined: 2024-05-05
#90 · Quote Reply

Chores dont stop because you get older bud

They tend to get more. Teenagers won't do chores for shit though, lol. Teens will do whatever they want for 24h straight, then sleep for 16 hours.

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RamRabbit lemmy.world RamRabbit@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-11-16
#91 · Quote Reply

A system that benefits people who lie about objective facts should be destroyed. If the tactical business decision is to look someone in the face and say "spending 2/3rds of a day, 16 whole hours, idly gazing at photos of anything is not an addiction" in order to protect business interests, then things are wrong. Addiction to a product should be met with horror! Oh no, how could this happen? In...

spending 2/3rds of a day, 16 whole hours

Even worse: if you get a proper night's sleep, 16 hours is literally the entire day. Dude is saying if you are getting healthy amounts of sleep, it is perfectly acceptable to spend 100% of your time doom scrolling on their website. No eating, no going to work, no showering.

It's an absurd statement.

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(void*)0x0 feddit.nu Void@feddit.nu
Joined: 2026-01-24
#92 · Quote Reply

Of all my active addictions, none take 16 hours to satiate.

Well, Diablo 2 sure has for me.

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Analog lemmy.ml Analog@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-03-04
#93 · Quote Reply

Since you care deeply about truth or something, when will you be correcting your comments that, at best, lack huge amounts of truth that change the contents you put forth? At best, you accidentally skipped multiple paragraphs that contradict your claims. At less best, you knew better.

Post said he said a thing. He did not say the thing. Not complicated.

Could have worded the post title to be accurate: didn’t. Instead, lied.

Words matter. Truth matters. Interpretation is how you get religious people performing atrocities based on millennia old writings.

“[Asshole] Squirms Under Questioning, Refuses To Admit 16hrs A Day Is Addictive Behavior.”

Not hard.

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-23
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#94 · Quote Reply

Post said he said a thing. He did not say the thing. Not complicated. Could have worded the post title to be accurate: didn’t. Instead, lied. Words matter. Truth matters. Interpretation is how you get religious people performing atrocities based on millennia old writings. “[Asshole] Squirms Under Questioning, Refuses To Admit 16hrs A Day Is Addictive Behavior.” Not hard.

Your comments now are a huge shift from

"That sounds like problematic use," the Instagram boss answered. He did not call it an addiction.

He also didn’t say it was a tomato.

Seems that, in the interest of accuracy, you should update them, lest you be the thing you claim others are.

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A_Random_Idiot lemmy.world A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#95 · Quote Reply

"Its not an addiction, I'm not addicted snorts line off a toilet seat I'M PERFECTLY FUNCTIONAL"

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A_Random_Idiot lemmy.world A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-05
#96 · Quote Reply

All CEOs of the big ones are sociopaths. It's by design.

You don't have to be a sociopath to be a CEO, but most CEOs are sociopaths.. because sociopathic traits, mostly lack of empathy and zero issue with being horribly manipulative, are traits that tend to be selected for to move up to this level.

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bitjunkie lemmy.world bitjunkie@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-06-19
#97 · Quote Reply

Guys you heard it here first: You can drink alcohol for 16 hours everyday and it's not addiction.

Hell yeah

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Analog lemmy.ml Analog@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2024-03-04
#98 · Quote Reply

Your comments now are a huge shift from "That sounds like problematic use," the Instagram boss answered. He did not call it an addiction. He also didn’t say it was a tomato. Seems that, in the interest of accuracy, you should update them, lest you be the thing you claim others are.

I recommend a re-read, my good buddy, of all my posts in this thread.

Truth. Not lies. Not conjecture.

This can be the truth that he was dodging the question.

Don’t say people said things they didn’t say. Simple.

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XLE piefed.social XLE@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-23
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#99 · Quote Reply

I recommend a re-read, my good buddy, of all my posts in this thread. Truth. Not lies. Not conjecture. This can be the truth that he was dodging the question. Don’t say people said things they didn’t say. Simple.

Your original post was a lie, or dumb accident, through omission. And now that you know better, you are lying intentionally in it.

You know damn well they were talking about addiction and not tomatoes. And yet you dishonestly tell people those two things are the same.

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Etterra discuss.online Etterra@discuss.online
Joined: 2024-12-10
#100 · Quote Reply

"Its not an addiction, I'm not addicted snorts line off a toilet seat I'M PERFECTLY FUNCTIONAL"

Goddammit, who the hell let RFK Jr. in here?

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Etterra discuss.online Etterra@discuss.online
Joined: 2024-12-10
#101 · Quote Reply

You don't have to be a sociopath to be a CEO, but most CEOs are sociopaths.. because sociopathic traits, mostly lack of empathy and zero issue with being horribly manipulative, are traits that tend to be selected for to move up to this level.

A lot of them sell shit or practice law instead.

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