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FineCoatMummy sh.itjust.works FineCoatMummy@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-02-17
#52 · Quote Reply

I think its great that Europe is looking to rely less on US tech but nothing about whats going on with Europe (especially within the EU) makes me think privacy is a focus.

That reminds me of a quote I heard once. Probably from Cory Doctorow but I cannot remember now.

"Everyone wants you to have privacy... just not from them."

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maplesaga lemmy.world maplesaga@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-11-30
#53 · Quote Reply

Mentally ready. Actually not ready at all.

Given they broke their own procurement laws to choose US tech companies for their cloud infrastructure its definitely silly.

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Gammelfisch lemmy.world Gammelfisch@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-05
#54 · Quote Reply

I am too!

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VOIDPTR lemmy.ml PanArab@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-03-24
#55 · Quote Reply

The alternatives don't have to be perfect. Reducing the dominance of any single country is a good thing.

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Zos_Kia jlai.lu Zos_Kia@jlai.lu
Joined: 2026-02-16
#56 · Quote Reply

It will never happen as long as slugs like van der Leyen or Merz are running the show. These people are completely incompetent.

Oh yes. Because Merz builds data centers, and Der Leyen is known for making IT decisions at EU companies. They also happen to be the queens of private investors.

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Zos_Kia jlai.lu Zos_Kia@jlai.lu
Joined: 2026-02-16
#57 · Quote Reply

I think its great that Europe is looking to rely less on US tech but nothing about whats going on with Europe (especially within the EU) makes me think privacy is a focus.

Companies that have had their whole data on Google/MS servers for 20 years certainly don't care for privacy the way you and I do. But they are certainly realizing that US providers are not the way to go. Baby steps I guess.

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IratePirate feddit.org IratePirate@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-02-02
#58 · Quote Reply

No. Merz and von der Leyen are extremely competent, they just don't pursue the goals they say they do. They may even belief that they are pursuing other goals than they really do. They believe in trickle down economics despite all evidence pointing to it making everything worse. In their pursuit of economic growth, they do the exact thing that in their model should boost, but in reality stifles...

They believe in trickle down economics despite all evidence pointing to it making everything worse.

It is high time we switch to Pinata economics.

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IratePirate feddit.org IratePirate@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-02-02
#59 · Quote Reply

Not Bavaria ๐Ÿ™„

The "C" in "CSU" is for "corruption".

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Yliaster thelemmy.club Yliaster@thelemmy.club
Joined: 2026-02-18
#60 · Quote Reply

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what's a subpoena?

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IratePirate feddit.org IratePirate@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-02-02
#61 · Quote Reply

GDPR is nice and all, but people have been fighting chat control and all its hydra heads for years now, so no. But I'm an American so what do I know?

But Iโ€™m an American so what do I know?

You know much more about the world around you than the orange turd that claims to be the leader of the free world. Don't sell yourself short, mate! It'll take people like you to rebuild once this is over.

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IratePirate feddit.org IratePirate@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-02-02
#62 · (edited) Quote Reply

Europe is not ready for what that will cost.

Europe is not ready for what that will cost.

Not true. We've seen the U.S. leverage big tech against its perceived enemies by shutting them down remotely. Unless Europe bends over backwards to serve the U.S. fascists' every whim, this form of blackmail-by-proxy is going to continue, and it's only going to get worse.

So the calculation is not: "cost of switching" vs. "cost of continuing the existing vendor lock-in".

It is: "cost of switching" vs. "cost of shutting down operations for good".

It's really easy maths if you break it down to its core. It's maths that even the most bone-headed of our leaders and business "experts" can do.

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IratePirate feddit.org IratePirate@feddit.org
Joined: 2026-02-02
#63 · (edited) Quote Reply

I think many companies are basically stuck with Microsoft (Excel, Word, Teams, Sharepoint, Onedrive etc). Switching to something else is going to be a pretty serious project. It's going to be expensive and time consuming. Totally worth doing IMO, but convincing the CEO is another matter. I guess we need a cautionary tale before the executives decide to reserve a few million euros for rebuilding...

I think many companies are basically stuck with Microsoft (Excel, Word, Teams, Sharepoint, Onedrive etc).

Tbh, office and collaboration tools are the least of our worries; there are plenty of good alternatives which, with some financial support, can be adapted to suit companies' needs in very little time. What should worry us more are the tons of critical applications tailored to a very specific area of administration and business. The software that runs the power plants and hospitals. The software that manages logistics and industrialised production. The software that runs our accounting and HR. That's the Windows lock-in that we're not going to shake off over night.

Oh, that and the hardware vendors + hyperscalers...

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gandalf_der_12te discuss.tchncs.de gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-01-12
#64 · (edited) Quote Reply

The alternatives don't have to be perfect. Reducing the dominance of any single country is a good thing.

thrirha klha mmkdn mmkn

i'm currently learning arabic. did i get your name right?

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VOIDPTR lemmy.ml PanArab@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2022-03-24
#65 · Quote Reply

thrirha klha mmkdn mmkn i'm currently learning arabic. did i get your name right?

Yes, except for the last word, there's no 'd'

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ferric_carcinization lemmy.ml ferric_carcinization@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-03-12
#66 · Quote Reply

what's a subpoena?

When it's the government asking.

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gandalf_der_12te discuss.tchncs.de gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2024-01-12
#67 · Quote Reply

Yes, except for the last word, there's no 'd'

right, i misread it as ู…ู…ูƒุฏู†

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Enkrod feddit.org Enkrod@feddit.org
Joined: 2024-06-24
#68 · Quote Reply

They believe in trickle down economics despite all evidence pointing to it making everything worse. It is high time we switch to Pinata economics.

I like you

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turboSnail piefed.europe.pub turboSnail@piefed.europe.pub
Joined: 2026-02-01
#69 · Quote Reply

I think many companies are basically stuck with Microsoft (Excel, Word, Teams, Sharepoint, Onedrive etc). Tbh, office and collaboration tools are the least of our worries; there are plenty of good alternatives which, with some financial support, can be adapted to suit companies' needs in very little time. What should worry us more are the tons of critical applications tailored to a very specifi...

Same with industrial automation, power grid, production management, etc. Most people donโ€™t even realise how much critical software is Windows-only.

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AnUnusualRelic lemmy.world AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-06
#70 · Quote Reply

Wasn't Europe going full open source?

You know how there's theory and practice?

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upstroke4448 lemmy.dbzer0.com upstroke4448@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-03-13
#71 · (edited) Quote Reply

Not even the GDPR?

It hasn't stopped countries like France, and Italy (not a complete list just examples) from being some of the least privacy friendly western governments.

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