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humanspiral
lemmy.ca
humanspiral@lemmy.ca Joined: 2024-10-23 |
SMRs are a new scam needed because old nuclear scam has worn out. Idk about that. Consider the Linglong One (ACP100): Developed by the China National Nuclear Corporation (CNNC), it is the first SMR to pass an independent safety assessment by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) in 2016. Construction began in 2021, and the core module was installed in 2023. Definitely a challenge of mat...
Linglong One (ACP100) generates up to 1twh/year. $23/mwh in operational costs. At $5.5/watt ($700m) it is very reasonable for nuclear. But all of this is China. 1/3rd materials/construction costs, 1/2 financing costs. Anti-corruption by design, local and national government support supervises/ensures results. In west, we just have politically bribed oligarchist subsidy programs. |
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billwashere
lemmy.world
billwashere@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
When do the death claws show up? |
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Kayday
lemmy.world
Kayday@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-10-22 |
And they have enough people to maintain and inspect the hundreds of thousands of reactors that are going to be built, if those small reactors work?
Well they don't do any maintenance. And considering the plant only gets built if the NRC says so, I think they'll manage. NRC doesn't fuck around. It's also not a good look to Trump's base to deregulate nuclear safety; they're historically the ones more worried about that. |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 Banned |
texas gon blow itself the shit up |
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ramble81
lemmy.zip
ramble81@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-08 |
Victim blaming. Deregulation of energy always leads to less service for more money, from Enron to now. Especially in texas. I can't imagine defending a group that through their own greed failed to do their job and responded by overcharging a thousand times their victims. Talk about losing any credibility.
No, it’s called making an informed choice. Down in South Texas that variable rating wasn’t even an option because our energy provider doesn’t do that. So what happened? Absolutely nothing. The provider ate most of it. Where that happened is in Dallas, where there are at least 4 separate utility providers that you can shop around for. And of those 4 they have different plans including fixed rate plans. I.e. plans where your bill wouldn’t have shot through the roof. So it very much was a customer issue, and didn’t happen to everyone. No one was forced to chose those plans. |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
Cancer Alley is getting some new developments! Or is that in LA? I think it's texas, around Houston or something.
It's both, I believe. I know Beaumont has stupid high cancer rates from all the chemical plants and refineries. The air there smells toxic. |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
Not winterize them, because the feds can't tell us what to do, and then have it melt down in the next polar inversion, of which they got one this year again. It's going to be a regular occurrence now with the global weirding.
Modern reactors don't really melt down like the first few generations did. And even so, it would still be less radioactive waste than coal power. |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
it hasn’t been a problem since that event 5 years ago. We've been spared any serious natural disasters affecting the grid during that time. No major hurricanes. No big freeze. The worst event was the 2024 derecho, and that definitely knocked out power here and there. But it was high enough above the treeline to really wreck infrastructure at the ground level. I'll note that a huge increase in w...
Huh? There was a big freeze like a month ago in the east. |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
No, it’s called making an informed choice. Down in South Texas that variable rating wasn’t even an option because our energy provider doesn’t do that. So what happened? Absolutely nothing. The provider ate most of it. Where that happened is in Dallas, where there are at least 4 separate utility providers that you can shop around for. And of those 4 they have different plans including fixed rate...
Variable rate plans are basically always bad for the consumers. |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
Nuclear waste is a bigger threat to health than carbon dioxide in fact. That is truly a wrongheaded opinion, and one that you likely got from smelling the farts of the nuclear industry that has been on a decades long pr campaign to influence the weak minded.
Coal power produces 100x more nuclear waste than nuclear power. |
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ramble81
lemmy.zip
ramble81@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-08 |
Variable rate plans are basically always bad for the consumers.
Agreed. Which is why I think anyone trying to use them is either greedy or woefully uneducated. It’s why I mentioned ARMs in my original post. People are gambling and think they’ll be able to game the system for the life of the loan and then something goes sideways. Same thing with electric. |
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UnderpantsWeevil
lemmy.world
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-14 |
Huh? There was a big freeze like a month ago in the east.
And the event led to over 100,000 power outages in the region, most of which came back in a day or two. But that paled beside '21, which took out multiple major metro areas statewide. |
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hector
lemmy.today
hector@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-09-03 |
Coal power produces 100x more nuclear waste than nuclear power.
You need to publish the methadology behind that number, as it's clearly bullshit manufactured by the nuclear industry to justify their business over fears of melt downs that would spread nuclear waste all around the world. The nuclear influence agents are very active and aggressive, it has a strong effect on weak minds. |
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hector
lemmy.today
hector@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-09-03 |
Modern reactors don't really melt down like the first few generations did. And even so, it would still be less radioactive waste than coal power.
As if we can trust anything you say after that statistic you just proffered and responded with another outlandish claim when asked what methadology was used for you coal comparison. |
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hector
lemmy.today
hector@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-09-03 |
No, it’s called making an informed choice. Down in South Texas that variable rating wasn’t even an option because our energy provider doesn’t do that. So what happened? Absolutely nothing. The provider ate most of it. Where that happened is in Dallas, where there are at least 4 separate utility providers that you can shop around for. And of those 4 they have different plans including fixed rate...
No one forced you to defend the rich gouging working people, charging them up to a year's salary for 10 dollars of electricity. To defend that, it's incredible, typical victim blaming, borne from Fox News and their ilk campaigning against the poor, breeding outright contempt and hate for them, encouraging people to celebrate them getting hurt. Because they are cheating them, and bullies always accuse their victims to justify abusing them. You side with the bullies, stealing tens of thousands of dollars when their wallet opened up to pay for 10 dollars worth of product, or less. |
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ramble81
lemmy.zip
ramble81@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-08 |
No one forced you to defend the rich gouging working people, charging them up to a year's salary for 10 dollars of electricity. To defend that, it's incredible, typical victim blaming, borne from Fox News and their ilk campaigning against the poor, breeding outright contempt and hate for them, encouraging people to celebrate them getting hurt. Because they are cheating them, and bullies always ...
Man, someone seriously pissed in your Cheerios. I’m not defending them at all. My point since the beginning has always been that if you are trying to get away with gambling on the system. At some point you will lose. That is 100% on you. Doesn’t matter if it’s betting, ARMs, variable rate electricity, whatever. |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
As if we can trust anything you say after that statistic you just proffered and responded with another outlandish claim when asked what methadology was used for you coal comparison.
You're more than welcome to type a few words into Google to see that I'm right. But since you want to be spoon fed information, Here you go |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
You need to publish the methadology behind that number, as it's clearly bullshit manufactured by the nuclear industry to justify their business over fears of melt downs that would spread nuclear waste all around the world. The nuclear influence agents are very active and aggressive, it has a strong effect on weak minds.
You clearly have absolutely no clue what you're talking about. |
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hector
lemmy.today
hector@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-09-03 |
You clearly have absolutely no clue what you're talking about.
You are saying the statement that the nuclear industry has aggressive influence operations online, and extensive Public Relations, to sell the country on Nuclear Power is not true? It's not a secret, and it's not in question. They are interests connected to those getting contracts to refurbish nuclear warheads in part. |
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hector
lemmy.today
hector@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-09-03 |
Man, someone seriously pissed in your Cheerios. I’m not defending them at all. My point since the beginning has always been that if you are trying to get away with gambling on the system. At some point you will lose. That is 100% on you. Doesn’t matter if it’s betting, ARMs, variable rate electricity, whatever.
I don't even think everyone had the option of not getting a variable pricing, but even if they all did have the choice, no one would assume the companies would charge over a thousand times the going rate of electricity. How you could defend that is just astonishing. Yes it's their fault for not realizing the should choose the option that gives a flat rate, and not try to save some money using more electricity when prices are lower, as clearly the industry would fail and charge them a year's salary for a week's electricity. It's their fault, for not realizing they were going to be gouged to a ruinous extent, after those companies failed in their duty, and that their politicians would abandon them, and have abandoned them already? |
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SamB
lemmy.world
SamB@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-15 |
texas gon blow itself the shit up
Are you serious? |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
You are saying the statement that the nuclear industry has aggressive influence operations online, and extensive Public Relations, to sell the country on Nuclear Power is not true? It's not a secret, and it's not in question. They are interests connected to those getting contracts to refurbish nuclear warheads in part.
Sounds like someone fell for the fossil fuel industry's propaganda about nuclear power. |
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Pieisawesome
lemmy.dbzer0.com
Pieisawesome@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2025-02-07 |
People in Texas aren’t known for their intellectual prowess. It’s like the Florida of the western half of the us.
It’s not really western… |
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hector
lemmy.today
hector@lemmy.today Joined: 2025-09-03 |
Sounds like someone fell for the fossil fuel industry's propaganda about nuclear power.
That line of argument is convincing if you have shit for brains I will give you that. Go bother someone else, I'm not buying your bullshit, I know better, I don't trust you, and frankly don't even think you are arguing honestly, or necessarily on your own behalf. Plus I asked for the methadology for your incredible claims on coal and you ignored it. If you want to keep arguing, I need that before we go any farther. |
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socsa
piefed.social
socsa@piefed.socialJoined: 2024-08-20 |
Lol, typical American centric article. Just outside Toronto, they're building four 300MW small modular reactors, at an existing nuclear plant, using proven designs from Hitachi, and the first one is targeted to come online by 2029 or 2030, eclipsing the Texas projects in scale, timeline, and practicality, but that literally doesn't even get a passing mention.
4 years to build a power plant is still fucking stupid when you could install 10x the solar and battery capacity in that time. |
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ramble81
lemmy.zip
ramble81@lemmy.zip Joined: 2025-06-08 |
I don't even think everyone had the option of not getting a variable pricing, but even if they all did have the choice, no one would assume the companies would charge over a thousand times the going rate of electricity. How you could defend that is just astonishing. Yes it's their fault for not realizing the should choose the option that gives a flat rate, and not try to save some money using m...
That’s where you’re wrong. The wholesale pricing is very much optional with a few providers, some don’t even offer it. It is not something you’re forced in to, nor is it the norm. It’s basically a plan you have to go looking for an choose. |
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Formfiller
lemmy.world
Formfiller@lemmy.world Joined: 2025-03-12 |
It’s not really western…
I meant divided in half |
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village604
adultswim.fan
village604@adultswim.fan Joined: 2025-09-27 |
That line of argument is convincing if you have shit for brains I will give you that. Go bother someone else, I'm not buying your bullshit, I know better, I don't trust you, and frankly don't even think you are arguing honestly, or necessarily on your own behalf. Plus I asked for the methadology for your incredible claims on coal and you ignored it. If you want to keep arguing, I need that befo...
I already provided you a link on another moronic comment of yours. |
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Pyr
lemmy.ca
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.caJoined: 2023-06-11 |
Their electrical companies don't exactly have the best record for maintenance and repairs... |
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FlexibleToast
lemmy.world
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
Nuclear waste is a bigger threat to health than carbon dioxide in fact. That is truly a wrongheaded opinion, and one that you likely got from smelling the farts of the nuclear industry that has been on a decades long pr campaign to influence the weak minded.
Not even close to true. Nuclear waste is actually very manageable. |
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FlexibleToast
lemmy.world
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-03 |
And they have enough people to maintain and inspect the hundreds of thousands of reactors that are going to be built, if those small reactors work?
The US has the most amount of data centers at ~5500. Not even anywhere close to hundreds of thousands. |
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MinnesotaGoddam
lemmy.world
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-27 Banned |
Are you serious?
do i look serious? |
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Einskjaldi
lemmy.world
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world Joined: 2026-01-26 |
Not winterize them, because the feds can't tell us what to do, and then have it melt down in the next polar inversion, of which they got one this year again. It's going to be a regular occurrence now with the global weirding.
Small means they can be cooled down quickly and easily and usually the modern ones can do it passively without needing power for these very small ones. |
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Bakkoda
lemmy.world
Bakkoda@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-02-28 |
It’s not really western…
From Florida it is. |
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