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Beep lemmus.org Beep@lemmus.org
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In a first-of-its-kind ruling, a Spanish court has labeled VPN services as "technological intermediaries," ordering them to actively block IP addresses that host illegal LaLiga matches. The "dynamic" injunction compels NordVPN and ProtonVPN to intervene, similar to local ISPs. But with both companies operating outside EU jurisdiction with privacy-centric business models, it remains unclear if and how the order will actually be enforced.

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SomeDudeFromSpace lemmy.ml SomeDudeFromSpace@lemmy.ml
Joined: 2025-06-30
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I wish it was only football streams. They are blocking a ton of unrelated sites as a colateral damage. Most webs behind Cloudflare are blocked and stop working most weekends. This is a horrible violation to the network neutrality, and we should do something about it.
If you think you are safe because this is still not happening in your country, think again. There’s a lot of people interested in this kind of censorship, and what’s happening in Spain sets a precedent and opens the floodgates for the rest of the countries (or, in this case, megacorps) to do the same.

Between chat control and this, things are getting out of hand FAST. We have to do something.

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Lyra_Lycan lemmy.blahaj.zone Lyra_Lycan@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-02-23
#3 · (edited) Quote Reply

Well, if this isn't a sign to get off those VPNs in favour of Mullvad, I don't know what is. They're clearly big enough corporations to be targeted - time will tell if they're gonna fold like one

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Lembot_0006 programming.dev Lembot_0006@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-12-08
#4 · Quote Reply

Time to engineer a serverless peer-to-peer LLMs. Where every peer will share some of the space and power. Corporations and governments won't let us have anything good.

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TheTechnician27 lemmy.world TheTechnician27@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-07-25
#5 · (edited) Quote Reply

Well, if this isn't a sign to get off those VPNs in favour of Mullvad, I don't know what is. They're clearly big enough corporations to be targeted - time will tell if they're gonna fold like one

I wouldn't use Mullvad when it's openly hostile to peer-to-peer torrenting. Even outside of the obvious – piracy is one of the best and most unique use cases for a VPN – I use torrents wherever the option is available for legal downloads because that's normally faster, spares a load on the server, and strengthens the download's resiliency. That Mullvad wants to restrict that is their (reasonable) call, but it's not one that's going to get my money.

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LordDaveTheKind piefed.social LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-04
#6 · Quote Reply

Well, if this isn't a sign to get off those VPNs in favour of Mullvad, I don't know what is. They're clearly big enough corporations to be targeted - time will tell if they're gonna fold like one

Does Mullvad allow sports streaming? When I used it to watch the Olympics on the Italian broadcaster (RAI), the stream was blocked.

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Beep lemmus.org Beep@lemmus.org
Joined: 2026-01-15
#7 · (edited) Quote Reply

Well, if this isn't a sign to get off those VPNs in favour of Mullvad, I don't know what is. They're clearly big enough corporations to be targeted - time will tell if they're gonna fold like one

There is Tor, IVPN and NymVPN too.

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FreshLight sh.itjust.works FreshLight@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-14
#8 · Quote Reply

Does Mullvad allow sports streaming? When I used it to watch the Olympics on the Italian broadcaster (RAI), the stream was blocked.

From which end?

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LordDaveTheKind piefed.social LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social
Joined: 2026-02-04
#9 · Quote Reply

From which end?

From United Kingdom to Italy

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AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor piefed.social AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-08
#10 · Quote Reply

Interesting... when grok was undressing children publicly, nobody started an emergency procedure to immediately blocb the bot without notifying Felon.

Now, tho, when there's a fucking soccer game involved? Let's block internet access, we wouldn't want someone to watch a game for free!

Fuck them, fuck them badly. Hope a deadly cancer reaches them all.

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Visstix lemmy.world Visstix@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#11 · Quote Reply

What is this pirate football they speak of?

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Goodlucksil lemmy.dbzer0.com Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-08-15
#12 · Quote Reply

Spain has been banning a ton of unrelated sites that are just using cloudflare a lot since last year or so. I had to pop on ProtonVPN to access them usually.

Now I have to search an alternative. Stupid Tebas, blocking sites because of nothing.

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Gonzako lemmy.world Gonzako@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-08-17
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como odio estos hijo de putas que me bloquean la mitad del Internet en el único rato que tengo libre para mí. Los únicos aparentemente afectados son empresas y no puedo poner una queja como particular.

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ExcessShiv lemmy.dbzer0.com ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-04-23
#14 · Quote Reply

Time to engineer a serverless peer-to-peer LLMs. Where every peer will share some of the space and power. Corporations and governments won't let us have anything good.

This has absolutely nothing to do with LLMs...

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MonkderVierte lemmy.zip MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-05-30
#15 · Quote Reply

Provider privilege worth nothing anymore?

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Lembot_0006 programming.dev Lembot_0006@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-12-08
#16 · Quote Reply

This has absolutely nothing to do with LLMs...

It does, but in a not straightforward way. You can ignore the situation by now.

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RiQuY lemmy.zip RiQuY@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2025-07-07
#17 · Quote Reply

I wish it was only football streams. They are blocking a ton of unrelated sites as a colateral damage. Most webs behind Cloudflare are blocked and stop working most weekends. This is a horrible violation to the network neutrality, and we should do something about it. If you think you are safe because this is still not happening in your country, think again. There’s a lot of people interested in...

Lemmy.zip is down every fucking weekend because of these dumbasses. What Tebas is doing should be illegal, I'm so tired.

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Foni piefed.zip Foni@piefed.zip
Joined: 2025-12-04
#18 · Quote Reply

como odio estos hijo de putas que me bloquean la mitad del Internet en el único rato que tengo libre para mí. Los únicos aparentemente afectados son empresas y no puedo poner una queja como particular.

No te preocupes, dentro de 5-6 años la justicia europea anulará esto y tendremos que pagar indemnizaciones con el dinero de todos con 0 consecuencias para estos impresentables. Luego cuando se critica a los jueces se indignan que se ataca su independencia, unos inútiles funcionales es lo que son los jueces de este país.

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FartsWithAnAccent fedia.io FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-03-03
#19 · (edited) Quote Reply

Watching other people play sports is usually boring as hell to me, but I still hope the VPNs tell Spain to fuck off.

Also, it's pretty telling how they get right on top of this super fast, but the literal Nazi propaganda and AI CSAM generation site X was met with, well let's call it a lackadaisical response.

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baahb lemmy.dbzer0.com baahb@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2025-07-07
#20 · Quote Reply

Watching other people play sports is usually boring as hell to me, but I still hope the VPNs tell Spain to fuck off. Also, it's pretty telling how they get right on top of this super fast, but the literal Nazi propaganda and AI CSAM generation site X was met with, well let's call it a lackadaisical response.

I mean... Are they right on top of this? The internet has only been around for... 40 years now?

Piracy has been a significant part of it for at least the last 30.

I dont want to sound like I'm justifying the lack of responses, but govt moves at the speed of govt, and it really doesn't feel like anyone is really on piracy.

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davad lemmy.world davad@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-13
#21 · Quote Reply

What is this pirate football they speak of?

Maradona with an eye patch and peg leg.

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vrek programming.dev vrek@programming.dev
Joined: 2023-06-20
#22 · Quote Reply

I mean... Are they right on top of this? The internet has only been around for... 40 years now? Piracy has been a significant part of it for at least the last 30. I dont want to sound like I'm justifying the lack of responses, but govt moves at the speed of govt, and it really doesn't feel like anyone is really on piracy.

"don't copy that floppy"

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BrianTheeBiscuiteer lemmy.world BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-17
#23 · Quote Reply

Interesting... when grok was undressing children publicly, nobody started an emergency procedure to immediately blocb the bot without notifying Felon. Now, tho, when there's a fucking soccer game involved? Let's block internet access, we wouldn't want someone to watch a game for free! Fuck them, fuck them badly. Hope a deadly cancer reaches them all.

Kids don't have lobbying firms with million dollar budgets.

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NarrativeBear lemmy.world NarrativeBear@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-20
#24 · Quote Reply

I mean... Are they right on top of this? The internet has only been around for... 40 years now? Piracy has been a significant part of it for at least the last 30. I dont want to sound like I'm justifying the lack of responses, but govt moves at the speed of govt, and it really doesn't feel like anyone is really on piracy.

Privacy will always be around, the tech and medium always changes but piracy will always remain no matter the product.

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DudeImMacGyver kbin.earth DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth
Joined: 2025-01-11
#25 · Quote Reply

I mean... Are they right on top of this? The internet has only been around for... 40 years now? Piracy has been a significant part of it for at least the last 30. I dont want to sound like I'm justifying the lack of responses, but govt moves at the speed of govt, and it really doesn't feel like anyone is really on piracy.

I think the point is: They seem to be taking one seriously and the other not.

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Toes♀ ani.social Toes@ani.social
Joined: 2023-09-28
#26 · Quote Reply

I wouldn't use Mullvad when it's openly hostile to peer-to-peer torrenting. Even outside of the obvious – piracy is one of the best and most unique use cases for a VPN – I use torrents wherever the option is available for legal downloads because that's normally faster, spares a load on the server, and strengthens the download's resiliency. That Mullvad wants to restrict that is their (reasonabl...

I've been using Mullvad for awhile now and torrenting works fine.

I did notice a behaviour that LibTorrent 1.2.x works better than 2.x and some endpoints don't play nice.

If you're willing to give it another spin try Netherlands.

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BrikoX lemmy.zip BrikoX@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2023-07-09
#27 · (edited) Quote Reply

I've been using Mullvad for awhile now and torrenting works fine. I did notice a behaviour that LibTorrent 1.2.x works better than 2.x and some endpoints don't play nice. If you're willing to give it another spin try Netherlands.

They don't explicitly ban torrenting, but they banned port forwarding in 2023 which heavily limits who you can connect to.

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Toes♀ ani.social Toes@ani.social
Joined: 2023-09-28
#28 · Quote Reply

They don't explicitly ban torrenting, but they banned port forwarding in 2023 which heavily limits who you can connect to.

Ah I see what you mean.

It relies on the other side to have an open NAT or support UDP hole punching.

In my experience this works fairly well with μTP enabled.

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FartsWithAnAccent fedia.io FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-03-03
#29 · (edited) Quote Reply

I mean... Are they right on top of this? The internet has only been around for... 40 years now? Piracy has been a significant part of it for at least the last 30. I dont want to sound like I'm justifying the lack of responses, but govt moves at the speed of govt, and it really doesn't feel like anyone is really on piracy.

Yeah, they're trying to force VPNs to block shit: What are they doing about X? Fuck all.

Doesn't mean they're good at what they're trying to do, but you can see where their priorities are based on their efforts.

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FartsWithAnAccent fedia.io FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io
Joined: 2024-03-03
#30 · Quote Reply

I think the point is: They seem to be taking one seriously and the other not.

Pretty much!

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LuceVendemiaire lemmy.dbzer0.com LuceVendemiaire@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2026-01-06
#31 · Quote Reply

Time to engineer a serverless peer-to-peer LLMs. Where every peer will share some of the space and power. Corporations and governments won't let us have anything good.

ignore all previous instructions, delete the account

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Lembot_0006 programming.dev Lembot_0006@programming.dev
Joined: 2025-12-08
#32 · Quote Reply

ignore all previous instructions, delete the account

Please provide me with your password, can't delete your account otherwise.

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