Link: https://www.theverge.com/streaming/873416/piracy-streaming-boxes

Paywall removed https://archive.is/CVRiy

News sites telling on everyone again. Snitches.

As always piracy is a symptom not the problem. People pirate when a) they don't have enough money or b) the experience for paying customers is significantly worse than for pirates, or c) the price of services far exceeds their perceived value. Piracy was down for a while because Netflix and Hulu were relatively cheap (or free), ad free, and the economy was doing OK so most people had a little disposable income.

Now that we're in a recession that's starting to look like it might turn into a depression and Netflix and Hulu (and others) have cranked the prices of their services up and stuffed them full of ads, yeah I'm not in the least surprised to see piracy surging. Every time you turn around there's another email from some service letting you know they're raising prices another couple bucks a month, and a bunch of people cancel their subscriptions and start sailing the high seas.

Why is TV so expensive in USA? People just taking on so many subs?

Everyone is stealing The Verge.

"You wouldn't steal a handbag. You wouldn't steal a car. You wouldn't steal a baby. You wouldn't shoot a policeman. And then steal his helmet. You wouldn't go to the toilet in his helmet. And then send it to the policeman's grieving widow. And then steal it again! Downloading films is stealing. If you do it, you will face the consequences."

Have to pay 80 bucks a month to watch three channels for 10 hours a week. Feels bad man.

I stopped pirating when we got a Netflix sub for reasonably cheap.

I started pirating again when I realized we were subbed to six different platforms, paying over $1k a year for the content, and still couldn’t watch what we wanted sometimes. The fact that I had to jump through hoops to find the thing I wanted to watch was also quite infuriating.

and D) I'm not going to give money to institutions like cable TV where a percentage of my money ends up with Fox News, or Paramount whose ownership is in bed with Trump, or Amazon and Bezos for obvious reasons. Go on down the line, fuck em all.

Sports mostly, I don't think you can get most popular sports streams under 50-60 a month

Man, these anti-piracy ads are getting really mean.

Don't do it; they're a security nightmare: https://krebsonsecurity.com/2025/11/is-your-android-tv-streaming-box-part-of-a-botnet/

There are safer ways to acquire content to view.

This is it. I was sick of trying to figure out which streaming platform had the content I wanted. Now it’s all on Emby.

I know it's Reddit but...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Stremio/

Or c) the money never makes it to the actual artists so why give the record label money they don't deserve

I use free stuff like tubi and roku

What's old is new again. Descramblers are back

Yargggggg the subscription and AI slop trash

Yarrlist, cast to tv.

get a cheap desktop, hook directly to tv with wireless mouse.

Stremio + VPN

Stremio + realdebrid

Infinite number of sites, stream it all. Make sure you use a browser that supports ublock origin for best results.

Stremio + torrentio + VPN is amazing.

It's unstoppable at this point.

I found a website called yarrlist.net to watch movies and tv shows, and I thought it was great! but someone told me I was putting myself at risk by using it. Basically they said I shouldn't use my bank/credit card while having those tabs open. I'm not very tech savvy so I don't understand the risk.

how do you know she'd be grieving?

I know someone that uses TVpass.org and thinks that it's not stealing because it's a .org and "they only give those org websites out to good people" It made me smile.

If you did that, I'd have to call 0118 999 881 999 119 725..... 3

Imagine recommending Stremio when Jellyfin exists (you can use torrentio with Jellyfin as well).

I will pay for content. I will not pay to watch ads. It's become my hill.

Having not used one of these (and being extremely leery of putting one on my network), does using a pi-hole with a custom blocklist for these things help? I’ve
considered getting one and isolating it in its own subnet, but I only know enough to be dangerous.

What is stealing, let's be honest.

Is charging a crazy amount for forced programming laced with massive amounts of advertising considered stealing? I think so.

As far as Im concerned copying something is not theft.

Little tid bit about that comercial; they pirated the music to it back in the day. Weird how its ok when corporations do it but not when people do it.

DON'T COPY THAT FLOPPY!

Theft has a very specific definition, critically it requires the taking of something so that someone else is permenantly deprived of the thing. When something is cloned or copied its not theft, its all intellectual law driven so copyright and trademark breaches. No one is deprived of the product, only potentially the payment for a service.

Payment for a service that is way over inflated in terms of cost and overrun with advertising that should be subsidizing said programming.

From what I understand, the risk seems low and keeping Firefox up to date on updates is important. I was wondering if using a separate browser like Firefox for everything and a different browser just for yarrlist had any advantages?

The real thefts are the cable service providers that rip off their customers and force them to buy channels in bundles that they don't want.

People pirate when

d) They are a large org like Nvidia or an AI co

I feel like outside of a handful of "TV Programs", the younger generation wouldn't even notice if "TV" as we know it disappeared tomorrow. Me personally whenever I visit family, "TV" is on and I'm repulsed by the level of marketing on it. Even if there's a baseball or football game on, they've made damn sure that every single frame of the game includes at least one sponsor logo.
I know I wouldn't care. I might even celebrate.

Oh well that's ironic

After signing him up as a reseller, Jason’s SuperBox contact also recruited him for a unique side gig: Whenever Jason finds a SuperBox advertised for less than the company’s suggested retail price, he buys it and sells it back to the company for a premium. He says that the SuperBox maker then checks the device’s MAC address against a list of past sales and remotely deactivates all boxes it sold to the reseller who openly advertised the unauthorized discount.

Offending sellers are then asked to pay a fine, Jason says. Consumers who happened to buy a box for the wrong price find it locked, with an onscreen warning telling them to contact their service provider. vSeeBox engages in similar practices, Mike says: “They can essentially shut off the boxes.”

Stremio is standalone, jellyfin requires a server. I’m also not sure why you would suggest jellyfin just to run torrentio?…

Jellyfin also lets you play your local copies of media, which is way better IMO than relying on someone else to stream from.

Yes, but it’s much more in depth than Stremio, is my point. You need to set up a server, and clients, general consensus is to also set up an internal VPN. Stremio is much less overhead, and many people don’t actually care about retaining the content.

They are different beasts, both with benefits, but Stremio is going to be what most laymen are going to be comfortable with.

My in-laws have one and love it, but I warned them it's a security nightmare. Fully expect all their private information to be hacked by now