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Using AI for image transcripts, yay or nay?
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lambisio feddit.cl lambisio@feddit.cl
Joined: 2026-04-09
#52 · (edited) Quote Reply

I would argue that it might even increase the number of descriptions if they're auto generated. People would find it easier to fix small issues than write a whole one from scratch.

It would increase the number of bad descriptions and desincentivize people to add good descriptions or (depending on the interface/permissions; you are assuming I could just manually go and fix someone else's alt-info in their image) submit fixes and corrections. And it would kill the environment even more anyway.

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HubertManne piefed.social HubertManne@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-03-13
#53 · Quote Reply

wouldn't using standard ocr be easier?

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HappyFrog lemmy.blahaj.zone HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2023-06-20
#54 · Quote Reply

It would increase the number of bad descriptions and desincentivize people to add good descriptions or (depending on the interface/permissions; you are assuming I could just manually go and fix someone else's alt-info in their image) submit fixes and corrections. And it would kill the environment even more anyway.

Sure. I don't care enough to argue. I'm not going to be the one who implements this system anyway, lol.

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Rain World: Slugcat Game lemmy.world rain_worl@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-01
#55 · Quote Reply

i used tesseract and then proofread it for text images(???????)

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Rain World: Slugcat Game lemmy.world rain_worl@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-01
#56 · Quote Reply

No matter how good human written descriptions are, people just won't do them. So having a automated system is much more preferable.

people do them lots and lots on parts of the fediverse that are not lemmy! in fact, i think the only reason no lemmers do it is because the ui sucks (the alt text box in a post pops up in a completely unrelated section when you add an image!! alt text must be attached to images)

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Rain World: Slugcat Game lemmy.world rain_worl@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-01
#57 · Quote Reply

Alternatively, it’s built into the platform. So when someone uploads an image to Lemmy a local AI model does the description. Edit: Then it could even be marked as AI generated and people could choose to be exposed to it or not.

people think local ai is the panacea, when ai must have a shit-ton of content scraped from the internet, and ~countless hours churning in datacenters, for the model to be produced in the first place

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Rain World: Slugcat Game lemmy.world rain_worl@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-01
#58 · Quote Reply

and AI can make it faster to reproduce the text in tge image That was solved decades ago without AI. It's called OCR.

ackshyually ai is a broad term that applied to ocr when it was first made, but nobody uses it that way anymore, they refer to machine learning. but wait! machine learning is used for ocr!!

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Rain World: Slugcat Game lemmy.world rain_worl@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-01
#59 · Quote Reply

By transcribing, do you mean describing what is in a picture, or transcribing text in a picture? For the former, I can't really imagine an image you couldn't describe for accessibility within a sentence, and for the latter, OCR could do the job equally well. I'm not saying this to just push the view that neural networks are no good for anything btw. For translation, for example, or text to spee...

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Rain World: Slugcat Game lemmy.world rain_worl@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-01
#60 · Quote Reply

Give it a test and see how accurate it is, if it's good enough then go ahead. People have been using AI-based OCR for literal decades already, nothing has fundamentally changed. There's just a sudden moral panic about it lately.

it's not a sudden, unexplained moral panic, it's a bubble with billions being invested in for no return, and ai chows down on those billions well, thus giant, unexplainable, strikingly accurate ai, that investors want put in every facet of your life. and no one! likes it!!

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Rain World: Slugcat Game lemmy.world rain_worl@lemmy.world
Joined: 2024-09-01
#61 · Quote Reply

I was actually thinking of using a self-hosted LLM for these tasks. I wanna dig again into it and I got access to computers on the cheap

LLMs can't see. are you talking about one with a vision thingamabob bolted on? you could just use ocr

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