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Hawaii just entirely removed corporations' power to spend money in politics. This could be a game changer for US democracy.
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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
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#52 · Quote Reply

Meanwhile, Delaware is making it so corporations can vote there.

That just means they're desperate for votes ;)

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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
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#53 · Quote Reply

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I’m not a defeatist. I called you out for spamming, which you were, cause a mod deleted your spam and the comments where you were insulting me and others.

Your modlog is public. If you lie about it, everyone can see that you lied.

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7101334 lemmy.world 7101334@lemmy.world
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#54 · Quote Reply

POTUS has already played that card and the American people saw right through it. like how is SCOTUS going to force the 4th and 12th largest economies in the world (California & New York) to do anything? Especially if other states join them. If they use Economic retribution Canada will step the fuck in and make exclusive trade deals. IMO if states wanted to repel federal agencies, they could.

You could be right... but as a Californian, I'd never underestimate Gavin Newsom's spinelessness.

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-10
#55 · (edited) Quote Reply

You could be right... but as a Californian, I'd never underestimate Gavin Newsom's spinelessness.

Well I guess it's up to you Californians to bend his spine in your favour.

https://www.ncsl.org/legislative-leaders/state-legislative-leaders

Regardless, not trying plays into the favour of the corporate fascists. What do we have to lose if this doesn't work?

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stickly lemmy.world stickly@lemmy.world
Joined: 2025-02-09
#56 · Quote Reply

Quick search, I found this from Reuters

Holy shit that is insane

Judge rules Fenwick Island's corporate voting does not dilute human votes

So I can buy a building and sell closet space to other companies (which I also own) for infinite voting power. This is absurd.

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Brokkr lemmy.world Brokkr@lemmy.world
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#57 · Quote Reply

I don't know, I don't think we had zip codes in the 1500s...?

The Spanish brought slaves to Florida in the early 1500s, but I doubt they would ha e been treated the same if they had escaped to other parts of what is now the US.

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PutItOutWithYourBootsTed piefed.social putitoutwithyourbootsted@piefed.social
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#58 · Quote Reply

Devils advocate: You're also sure it will be upheld under this SCOTUS?

Ugh unfortunately a valid point.

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PutItOutWithYourBootsTed piefed.social putitoutwithyourbootsted@piefed.social
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#59 · Quote Reply

Not sure what the downvotes are for unless they just don't like having a video as a response. I'm a bit confused on the language because he says the state the corporation was created in give them their rights, so wouldn't any corporation not from that state be able to spend anyway?

My thinking is that any major corporation isn’t willing to give up business in an entire state but that’s a great question and if someone has a more definitive answer I’d love to hear it.

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Crozekiel lemmy.zip Crozekiel@lemmy.zip
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#60 · Quote Reply

The Spanish brought slaves to Florida in the early 1500s, but I doubt they would ha e been treated the same if they had escaped to other parts of what is now the US.

Uhh, I was just making a glib joke about specifically the "zip code" aspect of the statement...

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-10
#61 · (edited) Quote Reply

I’m not a defeatist. I called you out for spamming, which you were, cause a mod deleted your spam and the comments where you were insulting me and others. Your modlog is public. If you lie about it, everyone can see that you lied.
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TheColonel reddthat.com TheColonel@reddthat.com
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#62 · Quote Reply

Holy shit that is insane Judge rules Fenwick Island's corporate voting does not dilute human votes So I can buy a building and sell closet space to other companies (which I also own) for infinite voting power. This is absurd.

What’s preventing a megacorp from buying a bunch of small shell companies and voting in their own best interest?

I am curious how the voting actually works, though.

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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-19
#63 · Quote Reply

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Oh! I’m not blocked!

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Bloomcole lemmy.world Bloomcole@lemmy.world
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#64 · Quote Reply

Corporations literally just won the right to straight up vote in elections in Delaware…

I can smell the corporatism coming

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
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#65 · (edited) Quote Reply

Oh! I’m not blocked!
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cmbabul slrpnk.net cmbabul@slrpnk.net
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#66 · (edited) Quote Reply

Oh! I’m not blocked!
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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
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#67 · Quote Reply

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Yeah, I didn’t follow you around. Lemmy is just small.

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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
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#68 · Quote Reply

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Yeah, there’s only like three hundred people here and we all know each other.

It’s why I like this place, it’s small and tight-knit, which means people are usually incentivized to be nice to each other.

Usually.

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
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#69 · Quote Reply

Yeah, I didn’t follow you around. Lemmy is just small.
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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
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#70 · Quote Reply

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Hi, this is who you’re talking to. I’m actually quite concerned with why you’re being so mean to me.

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
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#71 · (edited) Quote Reply

Hi, this is who you’re talking to. I’m actually quite concerned with why you’re being so mean to me.
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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
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#72 · Quote Reply

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Look, your head is small and there’s not enough room in here for me and all my things. I know there’s no rent and such, but I hope it’s okay if I move out. Living in your head rent-free just isn’t fun.

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-10
#73 · (edited) Quote Reply

Look, your head is small and there’s not enough room in here for me and all my things. I know there’s no rent and such, but I hope it’s okay if I move out. Living in your head rent-free just isn’t fun.
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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-19
#74 · (edited) Quote Reply

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You’re not going to save American democracy by calling other leftists assholes.

Look, I haven’t blocked anybody on Lemmy and I’m not about to start now.

Just, be good, please? Just follow the rules, be civil, and participate with a good heart in this space the same as the rest of us?

I’ve said not one mean thing about you, never called you a swear and never said anything with an ill intent. None of my comments were removed cause they followed the rules. Meanwhile, the mods in /c/politics are quite frustrated with you, because you kept on breaking rule three, which is to be kind and civil. It’s all in your modlog.

I get that you’re in Canada, judging by your username and your instance, but I’m not sure you get how truly bad it is down here. The last thing we need is for someone swearing at us and saying mean things. We’re trying to survive, we’re trying to thrive, and we’re doing our best with the limited resources and power we’ve got.

Stop calling people like me assholes, simply because we point out that you’re breaking community rules.

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cmbabul slrpnk.net cmbabul@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-08-11
#75 · Quote Reply

Yeah, there’s only like three hundred people here and we all know each other. It’s why I like this place, it’s small and tight-knit, which means people are usually incentivized to be nice to each other. Usually.

Right there with you, I can be harsh and was to them, but that’s only after I think it’s been demonstrated they don’t care about anything than jamming their singular point down everyone’s throat just like that library full of books that ain’t been colored yet upthread

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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-19
#76 · Quote Reply

Right there with you, I can be harsh and was to them, but that’s only after I think it’s been demonstrated they don’t care about anything than jamming their singular point down everyone’s throat just like that library full of books that ain’t been colored yet upthread

Even now, I’m showing them patience and grace. I wish they’d let me alone though.

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cmbabul slrpnk.net cmbabul@slrpnk.net
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#77 · Quote Reply

Even now, I’m showing them patience and grace. I wish they’d let me alone though.

I’m fucking watching you dude, a far more patient person than I and I laud you for it

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-10
#78 · Quote Reply

You’re not going to save American democracy by calling other leftists assholes. Look, I haven’t blocked anybody on Lemmy and I’m not about to start now. Just, be good, please? Just follow the rules, be civil, and participate with a good heart in this space the same as the rest of us? I’ve said not one mean thing about you, never called you a swear and never said anything with an ill intent. Non...
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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
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#79 · Quote Reply

I’m fucking watching you dude, a far more patient person than I and I laud you for it

I am the tiredest of all the ladies.

And I’m telling tech support while trying to keep this guy from being outright banned.

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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-19
#80 · (edited) Quote Reply

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Canconda said, before deleting their comment:

America is cooked.

This is true.

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NotMyOldRedditName lemmy.world NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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#81 · Quote Reply

Quick search, I found this from Reuters

So, the ruling requires you to own land.

So someone should buy a few acres and sell 1x1 foot lots for a boat load of money.

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cmbabul slrpnk.net cmbabul@slrpnk.net
Joined: 2025-08-11
#82 · (edited) Quote Reply

I am the tiredest of all the ladies. And I’m telling tech support while trying to keep this guy from being outright banned.

Far from me to tell you what to do, but you do owe yourself some grace and you’ve done far more than your fair share here. If they are determined to act the way they do and won’t listen to anyone they probably should be banned for the community

Edit: but to be clear I respect the fuck out of your grit

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ClownStatue piefed.social ClownStatue@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-05-13
#83 · Quote Reply

Quick search, I found this from Reuters

"However, plaintiff has not demonstrated ⁠that this ​policy violates the principle of one person/entity/one vote."

Never in my life have I ever seen it written this way.

I also like the note about there being “far more corporations” in DE than residents. So I guess this is just a case of it not having been demonstrated yet. I wonder how much it costs to license a company in DE. I wonder how hard it would be for the Internet to absolutely make these morons eat their words. 2 elections? 3?

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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-19
#84 · Quote Reply

Far from me to tell you what to do, but you do owe yourself some grace and you’ve done far more than your fair share here. If they are determined to act the way they do and won’t listen to anyone they probably should be banned for the community Edit: but to be clear I respect the fuck out of your grit

Thanks. You’re a real one too.

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-10
#85 · Quote Reply

You’re not going to save American democracy by calling other leftists assholes. Look, I haven’t blocked anybody on Lemmy and I’m not about to start now. Just, be good, please? Just follow the rules, be civil, and participate with a good heart in this space the same as the rest of us? I’ve said not one mean thing about you, never called you a swear and never said anything with an ill intent. Non...
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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-10
#86 · Quote Reply

Canconda said, before deleting their comment: America is cooked. This is true.

Yup. I accidentally hit enter and knew you would accuse me of a ninja edit if I finished the comment.

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7101334 lemmy.world 7101334@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-29
#87 · Quote Reply

Well I guess it's up to you Californians to bend his spine in your favour. https://www.ncsl.org/legislative-leaders/state-legislative-leaders Regardless, not trying plays into the favour of the corporate fascists. What do we have to lose if this doesn't work?

If by "you Californians" you mean "the Californians with money", sure, but that's not me.

He vetoed unemployment pay for striking workers and vetoed the decriminalization of psychedelics. You think he represents his constituents? Then you don't know California lol

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Mulligrubs lemmy.world Mulligrubs@lemmy.world
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#88 · (edited) Quote Reply

How very ridiculous, now watch how the feds will bend over backwards to keep Citizens United and corporate cash; it's been a windfall for our poor beleaguered representatives who just need money even though they already make more than the vast majority of their constituents.

Good job, Hawaii, thank you! (will the governor even sign? let's watch)

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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-19
#89 · Quote Reply

Yup. I accidentally hit enter and knew you would accuse me of a ninja edit if I finished the comment.

You said something true and you said it without lashing out and you only said it once.

Keep doing that.

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2025-07-10
#90 · (edited) Quote Reply

If by "you Californians" you mean "the Californians with money", sure, but that's not me. He vetoed unemployment pay for striking workers and vetoed the decriminalization of psychedelics. You think he represents his constituents? Then you don't know California lol

Fair point. What I mean is that I'm pretty sure this is a state legislature thing not a governor thing. Like yea he could veto it but I don't think he would if the bill actually passed.

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
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#91 · Quote Reply

You said something true and you said it without lashing out and you only said it once. Keep doing that.
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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
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#92 · Quote Reply

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Look, if taking the blame for this will get you to shape up and stop dealing insults and anger and such, I will gladly enter a guilty plea, but I do worry about you.

Please be good.

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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
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#93 · Quote Reply

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One day, you might meet me. When that day comes, if that day comes, I hope you are nicer in real life than you are online.

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
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#94 · Quote Reply

How very ridiculous, now watch how the feds will bend over backwards to keep Citizens United and corporate cash; it's been a windfall for our poor beleaguered representatives who just need money even though they already make more than the vast majority of their constituents. Good job, Hawaii, thank you! (will the governor even sign? let's watch)

(will the governor even sign? let's watch)

Hard to say. A brief look at Josh Green indicates to me he's a true public servant being Democrat and having spent 2 decades as a physician.

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
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#95 · Quote Reply

One day, you might meet me. When that day comes, if that day comes, I hope you are nicer in real life than you are online.

IRL I would ignore you and walk away. You're antagonizing me and a shitty person for doing so.

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Canaconda lemmy.ca Canconda@lemmy.ca
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#96 · (edited) Quote Reply

Look, if taking the blame for this will get you to shape up and stop dealing insults and anger and such, I will gladly enter a guilty plea, but I do worry about you. Please be good.
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Tanis Nikana lemmy.world tanisnikana@lemmy.world
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#97 · Quote Reply

IRL I would ignore you and walk away. You're antagonizing me and a shitty person for doing so.

If me being polite to you is causing you to be mean to me, that’s not my problem.

Just put the personal attacks away on the internet, yeah?

I’m not gonna be able to reply to this cause I have a gig tonight, between the driving, the setup, the stage time, and the collapsing in a heap afterward.

Be good. You can do it.

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cmbabul slrpnk.net cmbabul@slrpnk.net
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cmbabul slrpnk.net cmbabul@slrpnk.net
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#99 · Quote Reply

I am the tiredest of all the ladies. And I’m telling tech support while trying to keep this guy from being outright banned.

Sorry, I went and took the low road but they’re too combative

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lechekaflan lemmy.world lechekaflan@lemmy.world
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#100 · Quote Reply

This is a state which was once a kingdom, but private corporations slowly encroached on it in the guise of improving its standing in the world, until the oligarchy launched a takeover which deposed the kingdom completely then systematically handed rule over to the US.

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Zink programming.dev Zink@programming.dev
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#101 · Quote Reply

Holy shit that is insane Judge rules Fenwick Island's corporate voting does not dilute human votes So I can buy a building and sell closet space to other companies (which I also own) for infinite voting power. This is absurd.

Yeah, it seems like a very simple argument that since every individual owner of a corporation gets a vote, that the owners as a group should not get an additional vote.

I mean, the courts are no longer about what's logical or fair, obviously, but still.

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