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Modern_medicine_isnt lemmy.world Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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The reason of course is money apparently defines what is "good".

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FreshParsnip lemmy.ca FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
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Considered by who? Who makes these rules?

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Modern_medicine_isnt lemmy.world Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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Considered by who? Who makes these rules?

I wasn't intending to imply any rules. I was actually speaking about how people are indoctrinated to think that producing value for the elite is more important then doing what makes you happy.

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FreshParsnip lemmy.ca FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
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I wasn't intending to imply any rules. I was actually speaking about how people are indoctrinated to think that producing value for the elite is more important then doing what makes you happy.

And I'm asking according to who? Who believes this? I feel like a lot of these showerthoughts making claims about what is and isn't socially acceptable only apply to people who care too much what people think. I personally "consider" well made fan fiction and fan videos respectable. And well made music and art regardless of whether it's for money. Do opinions from people like me not count in what is "considered" good? Considered by who? The elite that you're complaining about?

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Modern_medicine_isnt lemmy.world Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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And I'm asking according to who? Who believes this? I feel like a lot of these showerthoughts making claims about what is and isn't socially acceptable only apply to people who care too much what people think. I personally "consider" well made fan fiction and fan videos respectable. And well made music and art regardless of whether it's for money. Do opinions from people like me not count in wh...

It is possible you have lived a sheltered life, and maybe also all of your firends have to. But just about everyone I know who puts significant time into a hobby has had people say judgy things to them about how much of a waste of time it is. Me personally not much more than my parents. But my more outgoing friends hear it all the time. The ones from foreign countries seem to hear it even more, and from people they barely know.
It is also commonly seen in media.
This is of course anecdotal, but there is a lot of it. I haven't seen anyone argue that it isn't true untill maybe you, if that is what you are saying. If you haven't seen this. Good for you. Be happy.

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FreshParsnip lemmy.ca FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca
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It is possible you have lived a sheltered life, and maybe also all of your firends have to. But just about everyone I know who puts significant time into a hobby has had people say judgy things to them about how much of a waste of time it is. Me personally not much more than my parents. But my more outgoing friends hear it all the time. The ones from foreign countries seem to hear it even more,...

I know people say judgy things. I'm saying the solution is not to worry what people think. That's why I'm questioning who decides what's "considered" socially acceptable. Why do you value the opinion of these judgy people more than you value the opinions of yourself and your friends who have these hobbies they care about? Why are they the decider of what's "considered" acceptable? What about people like me who read and appreciate fan fiction, for example? Our opinions don't count?

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Modern_medicine_isnt lemmy.world Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world
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I know people say judgy things. I'm saying the solution is not to worry what people think. That's why I'm questioning who decides what's "considered" socially acceptable. Why do you value the opinion of these judgy people more than you value the opinions of yourself and your friends who have these hobbies they care about? Why are they the decider of what's "considered" acceptable? What about pe...

I see. I wasn't posting a question looking for an answer. It's just an observation.
If you want to go deeper down the rabbit hole, the answer is religion. And I don't value It's opinion. It was a construct that stole power from the dictators, but sort of struck a deal with them eventually. It pushed morals that made the people do more for the dictator, obey the dictator and all that. Those morals as defined by religion continue to influence people. And people think those morals are natural or what not. They don't realize they were indoctrinated to think that for the benefit of the powers that be. There are some reasonable morals mixed in of course. But many people can't tell which are which.

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