Link: https://www.businessinsider.com/google-director-resigned-pentagon-ai-deal-military-artificial-intelligence-gemini-2026-6

Including a concern that Google's Pentagon deal could mean mass surveillance of EU citizens.

Google's own staff don't trust them anymore... we shouldn't either.

How do you lose something you never had?

Alphabet lost its "moral compass" more than 10 years ago, what a blind idiot.

“Be Evil” wasn’t a big enough clue?

10 billion rich.... Ok they lost their moral compass....

It’s hard to see past the money in your unvested stocks.

To his credit, google has accelerated their enshittification, but they certainly were on the shitty company list 10 years ago. But even now I’m told that Android is just better than iOS because it’s “open”, bypassing the fact that it exists solely to provide screens for people to view Google Ads.

Both Android and IOS are unacceptable. GrapheneOS for me, and hopefully once Motorola releases their "shipped with Graphene" devices, a whole lot more people. Anyone who says anything otherwise is a sucker for marketing.

eyyy, another Graphene user.

I would love to see a "Careless People"-style book for Google, Amazon and Palantir. Though the Palantir one would probably be called "Evil People" directly.

management has lost its moral compass

PFFFFFTT HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Oh fuck, now that is great a joke!

Better late than never...

That’s why he became a director, because he has a flawed moral compass

Whoa, whoa, hold up. What would "trying to change the system from within" look like? Maybe he had better motives but has now given up.

Jumping to conclusions to fit a common narrative is not how we'd like to be, is it? Are we irrevocably jaded beyond redemption, or can we assume better of people until we know more?

Management has lost its moral compass

Hahahahahahahahaha

Omfg are you kidding me? You just noticed?

I mean, it's not like they ever had a moral compass to lose in the first place. "Don't be evil" - who needs to say that?

In a public company there is constant pressure from the shareholders to place people with no moral compass in corporate management positions. It is like an evolutionary pressure. We see the results of this happen over and over again.

They had one maybe in 1995.

Why do we pretend this ad company is anything but?

Dozens of us!

google lost that shit decades ago.

The irony of GrapheneOS is that it works very well on a Google device, and mostly supports Google devices. I'm also a GrapheneOS user.

I'm worried that with all the legal attempts by governments around the world trying to undermine privacy and encryption and enforce ID verification and total surveillance, Motorola might get cold feet about the deal. There are powerful people in many countries who would love to make GrapheneOS illegal.

Let's hope that doesn't happen. Graphene is BY FAR our best option, by a large margin.

Just be evil

I believe that's a key distinction. Google's behavior has become too problematic for someone who is significantly morally deficient.

Big fucking red flag here.

"Guys, maybe the Nazis in the SS were trying to change the system from within? We shouldn't jump to conclusions!"

Sure, it's technically possible they were trying to change things from within. Seeing as they didn't speak up before and continued to work there, as a director, for a long time without any public protest, indicates to me they're culpable in whatever Google was doing. If they want to prove that wrong, they're free to provide evidence, or to take actions that prove it (like leak some damning data or something). We don't always have to wait for evidence to prove something like this though.

In the short term, probably. It's still android though. There's no technical reason why phones can't be running actual Linux though, which provides users real freedom.

Please enjoy this commercial break before your invasive surveillance begins.

It's not, postmarketOS or even SailfishOS are much better, because they don't depend on Android,

He only wants to help the sfascis US government kill children when they're ruled by Blue MAGA

LOL

The decisions you were referring to weren’t taking place in his department. He was in android security apparently. If we assume culpability with such a tenuous link then would you also say that paying taxes to a government engaged in such behaviour is morally unjustified per your morals?

What if their life circumstances didn’t allow it? We don’t know who they were supporting someone in their family or whether they had a visa status that prevented easily switching jobs etc.

We cannot assume that the negotiating parties - employer and employee - are operating at an equal footing. Most often it’s not. Therefore casting judgement like this is very misleading imo.

But my original point was also that Google is such a large company that it seems weird to blanket rule everyone who worked there as being guilty because some exec approved a deal. My question was, what about extending that to the economy as a whole. Sure it’s illegal to fail to pay taxes but my question was whether you think that’s immoral to participate in the economy at all, because it’s very much like this person’s participation in google.

I think we’d both agree on what the world should look like, but I also think we have to make practical choices in the world we live in. I don’t mean it as a defense of doing some horrible thing, of course, I hope that’s clear. But if such a large employer were out of bounds for moralistic reasons then very likely you’re looking at ruling out a bunch of other companies too and it’s too much of a disadvantage to operate in for an average person looking for a job.

Sorry for the rant / long post.. but I hope I got my point across!