Loads for me.
Located in Germany

Someone else thought the same.
And we all know how that went.

how so?

intentions aside, think about how messed up that sounds?

Is it even possible to organise online then irl to get big enough and not be ignored?

If in 50 years im asked what i was doing during this time, im sure to dissapoint and be viewed as an enabler of these horrors

The people who say that shit are the same kind who would say all Germans were nazis. That's generally not considered a couth opinion and is rarely tolerated

The Japanese Americans sitting in internment camps weren't responsible for the Nanjing Massacre or Unit 731.

You're not personally responsible for what Israel is doing to Palestine and Lebanon, or even for what the US did in Iran. There's nothing you can do to stop it, beyond voting.

I'll amend what I said. If you're an eligible voter and you either voted for trump and congressional republicans, or chose not to vote against them, then you share partial responsibility. Otherwise, you're just as frustrated, hopeless, and powerless as the rest of us. That's not a moral failing.

Isn't that the entire point what with the world watching the genocide live in general and refusing to do jackshit about it?

Edit: it looks like my client posted this as a top level comment, instead of the comment I was replying to. I've reposted it in the correct place because it looks really bad without context.

I don't think anyone is saying there is good guys, I think it's just really fucking evil guys, bad guys, and thousands of civilians targeted for torture and murder.

That's insane and sickening to the core, but the URL I was referring to sounds like "Netflix for genocide fans"

Fair, but the question still stands.

I'm also very skeptical. I just didn't want us to put words in their mouth, because people often do it in bad faith and I hate it.

It's very difficult to get unbiased view of what's happening on the ground for us far away.

But in other wars in history, after the dust had settled, it turned out there were cases where insurgents had raided local villages and blamed it on the invading force. I don't know when the dust will settle on this one, but afterwards I suspect we'll find there were no good guys.

If the goal was to kill as many Palestinians as possible, why would they drop flyers?

Why do you pose this question as if theres doubt it's happening?

https://www.jpost.com/israel-news/defense-news/article-867020

Psychological warfare against civilians and a "well we gave them warning that we were going to bomb the area and that anyone remaining would be deemed an enemy combatant" ethos that the IDF is known for using to justify the wholesale slaughter of civilians.

This is the thinking that leads to atrocities like October 7, which was a genocidal act which you want to pretend was “justified”.

Following this with "wars are necessary" and tacking on "(not justified)" as if you didn't justify wars by saying that Israel is justified in genociding the palestinians because of what you've been told hamas did on october 7th.

But you’ll get more photos of dead children to make you feel some righteous hatred. I think that’s all you care about. You don’t really care about Palestinians enough to try to find a way to peace.

So you admit that Israel is killing children

there’s a significant probability there will be another Gaza war in around 20 to 30 years, with the same result as this one.

The only remaining land in Gaza that is unoccupied is a strip of seafront 105km², where 2 million people have been kettled into. For comparison that's a quarter of the population of London, condensed into an area thats less than 10% its size.

But please do co tinue to try and tell me how and what I think, fascist.

That’s Israeli surveillance eg. Corsight AI, Palantir etc

I'm not doubting they're dropping flyers. I'm asking why a country intent on genocide would ever drop flyers instead of just dropping bombs? Why engage in psychological warfare on people you intend to kill?

Be careful, you're giving evidence that it's a war, not a genocide. That kind of talk will get you banned in these parts.

Following this with “wars are necessary” and tacking on “(not justified)” as if you didn’t justify wars by saying that Israel is justified in genociding the palestinians because of what you’ve been told hamas did on october 7th.

Ah ok, so you're just straight up denying genocidal acts now. Do you also believe Hamas didn't take hostages into Gaza?

Anyway, you don't actually care about atrocities occurring, you're fine with it as long as it's against women and children that "deserve it".

But please do co tinue to try and tell me how and what I think, fascist.

How do you define the term "fascist"? Just people that don't agree with you?

You're revealing how you think. Keep talking. You're the one revealing how unhinged the anti-Israel movement is, not me.

Why engage in psychological warfare on people you intend to kill?

Because psychological warfare is a part of the tactic employed to make life impossible for every Palestinian

Be careful, you’re giving evidence that it’s a war, not a genocide.

Did you miss the original post that's an entire archive of Israels crimes against humanity or are you being intentionally dense?

Ah ok, so you’re just straight up denying genocidal acts now. Do you also believe Hamas didn’t take hostages into Gaza?

Point at where I've denied genocidal acts.

Anyway, you don’t actually care about atrocities occurring, you’re fine with it as long as it’s against women and children that “deserve it”.

Once again, trying to tell me how I feel about something and framing it as if I'm somehow uncaring because you don't actually have any arguments against the facts I'm talking about.

I'm calling you a fascist because you're denying Israel's war crimes and defending their genocidal actions against Palestinians, trying to say that hamas taking hostages somehow justifies the wholesale destruction of an entire group of people (collective punishment is also a war crime.)

Feel free to continue to defend these genocidal zionists with logical fallacies and ad hominems, I'm sure it'll convince people that you're on the right side of history.

https://streamable.com/e/4y0zka

In your opinion is this soldier throwing a stun grenade into a civilian's car, then blocking the door to trap everyone inside was hamas's fault, and not more evidence of warcrimes perpetrated by the IDF?

Your skepticism is understandable and justified, but unfortunately it is precisely this skepticism that Israel knows how to exploit.

Not only does this criminal state invest billions in influencing public opinion—specifically targeting legacy media outlets believed to be reputable—but it also systematically kills journalists who attempt to provide independent reporting not controlled by Israel.

They are evidently pursuing a strategy so unscrupulous that it is absolutely unprecedented in recent human history. For obvious reasons, there are few reliable sources on this, but these older, scientifically collected data should give an impression of the sheer scale of the problem.

I’ll just copy a comment here that I posted more than a year ago—not the slightest thing has changed in the meantime; quite the contrary, since the U.S. continues to shield the criminal regime of Israel and thereby actively supports the genocide of the Palestinians:

Israel deliberately kills journalists, as evidenced by the fact that more journalists have been killed in Gaza in the last two years "than in the U.S. Civil War, World Wars I and II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War (including the conflicts in Cambodia and Laos), the wars in Yugoslavia in the 1990s and 2000s, and the post-9/11 war in Afghanistan, combined".

Source: Watson Institute for International & Public Affairs - News Graveyards: How Dangers to War Reporters Endanger the World (full paper here)

Edit: Fixed the link to the full paper as the url changed since my original comment.

Spam.

Point at where I’ve denied genocidal acts.

OK:

because of what you’ve been told hamas did on october 7th
(emphasis added)

You're saying "you've been told" implies that you think Hamas didn't do these horrific things. Which explains why you're so warped. You believe everything bad about the racial group you hate and doubt anything negative about those that are against those you hate.

I'm not denying warcrimes aren't happening. It's a war, and these things will happen.

An old guy in my hometown killed a civilian in WWII for no goddamn reason. He wasn't court martialled, just chewed out by his CO, and they moved on. The other old fellas in my town wouldn't talk to him, but no real punishment.

Do you now think that Canada committed genocide in WWII?

If you had video of all the war crimes from another war and kept watching those videos back to back over and over again, you'd think any war is a genocide.

You should be disgusted by the things that happen in war. War is a horrible thing. Only children think war is like a CoD game.

Personally, I don't want another Gaza war to happen. Promoting hatred of Israel makes it more likely another Gaza war will happen, and it will have a similar result to this one. Is that what you want?

"It's a war and these things will happen" saying that like bombing refugee tents is a natural thing that "just happens" as if there aren't international laws that state these things should never happen. "Never again" but not if the people are brown.

I am disgusted, this is why I am so vehemently against these things happening, and why I so strongly condemn the acts of this settler colony.

If you don't want another gaza war to happen why are you defending the acts as if they're a natural part of what goes on when an internationally supported state kills people at a scale we have not witnessed since the 40s.

Water has been shut off by israel

Power has been shut off by israel

Palestinian people cannot leave gaza freely and are subjected to disproportionately harsh checks and control measures when crossing through any checkpoints

Over 1000 athletes have been killed

Nearly 900 journalists have been killed (more than every war since WWII combined.)

1500000 civilians displaced from south Lebanon alone

As of January more than 1500 killed in the israeli invasion of Lebanon, bridges, schools and hospitals have been reduced to rubble.

How is any of this acceptable to you?

Your refusal to refute the evidence put before you is extremely telling

You've yet to provide any evidence of what you believe outside of positing that "hamas massacred villages" or anything to refute what I've said

It has nothing to do with racial groups and everything to do with the overwhelming evidence of crimes against humanity that we have witnessed happening live for the past four years.

Either post your sources or pound sand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_genocide_of_Indigenous_peoples

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/permanent-peoples-tribunal-interim-statement-9.7217256

Also, yes. Canada did and is still perpetrating a genocide.

The only thing that would really make a difference is if you somehow flew down there and helped prevent even one atrocity first hand. But that's an insane thing to do, so the only option we have left is to feel powerlessly empathetic, like most global issues nowadays

My take on it:

Hey don't internalize the rot but spread communism and truth. Bear witness and spread the gospel of reality. Expose the two party system as the uniparty. Be easy my friend we are all in bondage in the imperial core. We should be able to smile. I didn't do shit.... no blood on my hands but still a slave in a capitalist system. More evidence that a revolution is the only way out of this. Also the same capitalist class that did this will do this to you and then you can play the role of hammas. We all will be forced to fight in the end. The USA has no more democratic levers to turn. The ruling class has given us no options but kinetic means. It is going to get worse in the USA which for me is a double edge sword. Justice will be served for sure.