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YSK that archive.is links (and others listed below) are no longer trusted. archive.org is unaffected / still trusted.
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Séimhe (sé / é) lemmy.world Seimhe@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-03-29
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  • They have been found to have been altering the contents of the archived articles.
  • They have DDoSed a server using our browsers when we visit their site
  • Wikipedia has blacklisted it
  • It's DNS is banned widely

Guidance published ... asked editors to help remove and replace links to the following domain names used by the archive site: archive.today, archive.is, archive.ph, archive.fo, archive.li, archive.md, and archive.vn. The guidance says editors can remove Archive.today links when the original source is still online and has identical content;

Recommended alternatives include:
Internet Archive
Ghostarchive
Megalodon

The Wikipedia guidance points out that the Internet Archive and its website, Archive.org, are “uninvolved with and entirely separate from archive.today.” The Internet Archive is a nonprofit based in the US.

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m-p{3} lemmy.ca mp3@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-01
#2 · Quote Reply

It's a bit sad, because archive.org is unable to capture some websites that archive.is is able to.

So you either get an imperfect host that is able to capture it (with a dubious integrity record), or you have a void where some stuff cannot be archived and you end up with a void.

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floofloof lemmy.ca floofloof@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-16
#3 · Quote Reply

It's a bit sad, because archive.org is unable to capture some websites that archive.is is able to. So you either get an imperfect host that is able to capture it (with a dubious integrity record), or you have a void where some stuff cannot be archived and you end up with a void.

In these cases I still consider archive.is (etc.) to be better than nothing. Also, the fact that archive.org is based in the USA is a concern. It could be forced to censor or delete content, or even be forcibly shut down.

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antonim lemmy.world antonim@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#4 · Quote Reply

In these cases I still consider archive.is (etc.) to be better than nothing. Also, the fact that archive.org is based in the USA is a concern. It could be forced to censor or delete content, or even be forcibly shut down.

As opposed to all the other countries that can't censor and delete content or shut websites down?

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antonim lemmy.world antonim@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-03
#5 · Quote Reply

.is uses some techniques to circumvent paywalls, whereas .org just accesses the site normally. I hope a competitor to .is will show up at some point.

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magnetosphere fedia.io magnetosphere@fedia.io
Joined: 2023-06-30
#6 · Quote Reply

They have been found to have been altering the contents of the archived articles.

In what way? (I’m not trying to start an argument or defend them; I’m just curious).

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Manjushri piefed.social Manjushri@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-09-29
#7 · Quote Reply

.is uses some techniques to circumvent paywalls, whereas .org just accesses the site normally. I hope a competitor to .is will show up at some point.

I user Firefox with a handful of extensions including Bypass Paywalls Clean, NoScript, und uBllock Origin. I seem to breeze past a lot of paywalls. I base that on threads here where people are complaining about paywalls blocking them that I don't see.

Sometimes, when a site throws a Subscribe box up to block me from reading/scrolling on the sight, I can use the uBlock element zapper to delete it and read the article. The only ones that really get me are the ones that only load a paragraph or two unless you log in.

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Avid Amoeba lemmy.ca avidamoeba@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-07-05
#8 · Quote Reply

In these cases I still consider archive.is (etc.) to be better than nothing. Also, the fact that archive.org is based in the USA is a concern. It could be forced to censor or delete content, or even be forcibly shut down.

Agreed. Being unable to get important info to people could be a bigger problem which is why I'd probably keep using them.

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LeFrog discuss.tchncs.de LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de
Joined: 2023-06-14
#9 · Quote Reply

They have been found to have been altering the contents of the archived articles. In what way? (I’m not trying to start an argument or defend them; I’m just curious).

One example discussed by Wikipedia editors involved Jani Patokallio’s name being inserted into an Archive.today capture of a blog post that was mentioned by Patokallio in his February 2026 write-up of the DDoS incident. This blog is related to the “Nora” alias used by the Archive.today maintainer, which now appears to be the name of an actual person.

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deepfryerdan sh.itjust.works _fryerDan@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2026-03-10
#10 · Quote Reply

In these cases I still consider archive.is (etc.) to be better than nothing. Also, the fact that archive.org is based in the USA is a concern. It could be forced to censor or delete content, or even be forcibly shut down.

misinformation is not better than nothing if youre an idiot. dummies and noobs will take the info as fact

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floofloof lemmy.ca floofloof@lemmy.ca
Joined: 2023-06-16
#11 · Quote Reply

As opposed to all the other countries that can't censor and delete content or shut websites down?

It's a question of the political climate in the countries. The USA is a bit extreme at the moment.

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QuadratureSurfer lemmy.world QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-21
#12 · Quote Reply

I would recommend that everyone search their own comment/post history and try to replace any archive[dot]is/ph/today links with something else.

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Arcane2077 sh.itjust.works Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-22
#13 · Quote Reply

I suspected something was off when I literally could not load any archive.is website for the past year due to infinite recaptcha loops

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Serinus lemmy.world Serinus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#14 · Quote Reply

It's a question of the political climate in the countries. The USA is a bit extreme at the moment.

Compared to?

For many of the people I talk to, that can be assumed. Here, however...

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Serinus lemmy.world Serinus@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-14
#15 · Quote Reply

One example discussed by Wikipedia editors involved Jani Patokallio’s name being inserted into an Archive.today capture of a blog post that was mentioned by Patokallio in his February 2026 write-up of the DDoS incident. This blog is related to the “Nora” alias used by the Archive.today maintainer, which now appears to be the name of an actual person.

A bit easier to read,

Wikipedia editors discovered that the archive site altered snapshots of webpages to insert the name of the blogger who was targeted by the DDoS.

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kamenlady lemmy.world kamenlady@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-06-24
#16 · Quote Reply

I user Firefox with a handful of extensions including Bypass Paywalls Clean, NoScript, und uBllock Origin. I seem to breeze past a lot of paywalls. I base that on threads here where people are complaining about paywalls blocking them that I don't see. Sometimes, when a site throws a Subscribe box up to block me from reading/scrolling on the sight, I can use the uBlock element zapper to delete i...

I base that on threads here where people are complaining about paywalls blocking them that I don't see.

I have encountered this effect specifically with guardian.com. While i never had a paywall on that site, i often get the "paywall" comment when i post something on guardian.com.

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fuckwit_mcbumcrumble lemmy.dbzer0.com fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Joined: 2024-03-20
#17 · Quote Reply

I suspected something was off when I literally could not load any archive.is website for the past year due to infinite recaptcha loops

That’s more just Google not liking you.

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Arcane2077 sh.itjust.works Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works
Joined: 2023-06-22
#18 · (edited) Quote Reply

That’s more just Google not liking you.

That’s definitely true, but I haven’t experienced it anywhere else 🤷 I can’t explain it, I was simply suspicious

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paraphrand lemmy.world paraphrand@lemmy.world
Joined: 2023-07-12
#19 · Quote Reply

I would recommend that everyone search their own comment/post history and try to replace any archive[dot]is/ph/today links with something else.

Are they all ran by the same nutter?

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AmbitiousProcess (they/them) piefed.social AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social
Joined: 2025-06-06
#20 · Quote Reply

It's a bit sad, because archive.org is unable to capture some websites that archive.is is able to. So you either get an imperfect host that is able to capture it (with a dubious integrity record), or you have a void where some stuff cannot be archived and you end up with a void.

I've found https://megalodon.jp/ to work similarly. Japanese site, and has some quirks with how large of a page it will archive before only saving a screenshot, but it works.

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huppakee lemmy.world huppakee@lemmy.world
Joined: 2026-05-15
#21 · Quote Reply

I base that on threads here where people are complaining about paywalls blocking them that I don't see. I have encountered this effect specifically with guardian.com. While i never had a paywall on that site, i often get the "paywall" comment when i post something on guardian.com.

They have a 30 articles a month limit even if you're logged in now, at least for me

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Toast lemmy.zip lightlybutteredtoast@lemmy.zip
Joined: 2026-05-26
#22 · Quote Reply

Might these things be related?
https://www.404media.co/fbi-tries-to-unmask-owner-of-infamous-archive-is-site/

Ironically, I had to bypass the paywall using archive.is

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hexagonwin lemmy.today hexagonwin@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-02-07
#23 · Quote Reply

In these cases I still consider archive.is (etc.) to be better than nothing. Also, the fact that archive.org is based in the USA is a concern. It could be forced to censor or delete content, or even be forcibly shut down.

indeed, there are many blacklisted/non-viewable urls in the wayback machine sadly. and it really doesn't work well with dynamic js-based paged

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hexagonwin lemmy.today hexagonwin@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-02-07
#24 · Quote Reply

I user Firefox with a handful of extensions including Bypass Paywalls Clean, NoScript, und uBllock Origin. I seem to breeze past a lot of paywalls. I base that on threads here where people are complaining about paywalls blocking them that I don't see. Sometimes, when a site throws a Subscribe box up to block me from reading/scrolling on the sight, I can use the uBlock element zapper to delete i...

still, .is uses actual credentials to bypass hard paywalls for many news websites, which bpc-clean can't

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hexagonwin lemmy.today hexagonwin@lemmy.today
Joined: 2026-02-07
#25 · Quote Reply

Are they all ran by the same nutter?

it's just different domains for the same service to evade dns poisoning

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sem piefed.blahaj.zone sem@piefed.blahaj.zone
Joined: 2025-09-04
#26 · Quote Reply

This sentence does some heavy lifting:

The guidance says editors can remove Archive.today links when the original source is still online and has identical content;

The niche filled by archive.is is for bypassing paywalls, which is the only reason not to use the internet archive's wayback machine in the first place.

The only reason the operator of archive.is can get away with all his abuses is because most of the world can't or won't pay to have access to information required to be part of the global discussion.

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