it's official, Ruby is off the rails

What if we just cleansed it of nazis?

Wasn’t familiar with this guy other than through trying Omarchy over one weekend, so I went down the rabbit hole.

Apparently this is something he is fairly well known for:

(from his Wikipedia entry)

“In 2025, Hansson published a blog post expressing support for far-right British activist Tommy Robinson and the 2025 British anti-immigration protests.”

Bold strategy alienating his user base and any supporters still around, let's see if it pays off for him.

Negative bias. We notice these anomalies more than we notice the ones that don't disappoint their mothers.

Nobody even knows who Arthur David Olsen is.

It’s always fascinating to me how smart people can be so dumb.

Yes, let's do that. Where should we send them?

Reeducation centers ideally located in immigrant ghettos so they can correct the wrong of forcing refugees into under-served areas with no industry or legal way to improve one's situation their politics brought about.

And as those ghettos would contain zero immigrants but only the finest of fine white people, there would be absolutely zero crime and other problems. Either that or the whole premise is completely wrong, but I wouldn't even think of that.

I love how all these people who talk about immigration and remigration never talk about Western countries and Israel bombing middle east to oblivion. Sure buddy it is 100% sensible to ask someone to go back to a country with no infrastructure, healthcare or education left thanks to your country and its allies.

The grave

Not only Rails but also Hey.com which he created somehow. He will definitely lose customers.

I don't see where you're going with this, reeducation required eventual reintegration, making these people see and correct the systemic injustice they created as part of this seems both practical and moral.

I'm going to them realizing that they are the problem and not everybody else. They think all the problems come from migrants. Let's remove that variable and check if they are right. Not by removing the migrants, but by removing them from society.

Survivorship Bias

Absolutely no surprise that the “Rails Is Omakase” guy is a moron.

What a dumbass. Doubling and tripling and quadrupling down and knowing literally nothing about what he's talking about.

First of all, the US won't beat China because they deindustrialized and China is the factory of the world. This won't change short of a nuclear holocaust.

Second of all, most environmentalists want investment in greener energy so that we don't destroy the world if we can avoid that. China already makes cheap renewables, and it will only get cheaper still. Europe's energy crisis is tied to importing expensive US energy and not even trying to go renewable so they break off that dependency.

Third, as the US makes the world economy implode with a new stupid war the price of energy will only keep going up and up, so countries that heavily rely on importing energy will suffer a lot. You can't techbro your way out of this, and this should be obvious, but no amount of ethnic cleansing can reindustrialize an economy. Not only is his whole ideology appalling for anyone with a modicum of empathy, it's also not grounded in reality. But no, I'm sure if we all just believe in capitalism and fascism hard enough things will magically get better! Come on guys, the US is doing that and it's TOTALLY not just a bubble!!!!

Its funny how commies like you would kill for words and still somehow think they have moral grounds

Europe is deindustrializing because they're heavily reliant on expensive energy imports. Before they could buy cheap Russian oil. They also decided to double down on being US vassals despite the US clearly disrespecting them. They either have to import fuel from elsewhere, import way more Chinese renewables, or both, and then their economy can start recovering.

By far most immigrants within Europe are from Europe itself. Those who migrated from elsewhere are providing cheaper labor and doing the jobs white people don't wanna do if at all possible (such as cleaning, delivering food, driving you around, factory jobs, etc). Kicking them out will only accelerate Europe's economies imploding, as the main issue remains one of energy demand and deindustrialization (because energy isn't cheap enough). If you want to look at a European country ran similarly to what you like, look into the way Hungary treats Roma people. It didn't help any Hungarian workers.

If you all need to do a second holocaust to realize that wasn't the problem I'm done with you.

The person suggesting reeducation and reintegration is someone else, if that's who you meant to respond to

Yeah, being smart, being educated and being wise are three entirely separate things.

He uses the word "remigration" right after explaining quite clearly that ethnicity is exactly what he is talking about.

It doesn't help that it has been identified as a term for ethnic cleansing since 2019.

And let's put our thinking caps on for like 1 second. How exactly do you expect unilaterally imposed "remigration" to actually happen? You ask millions of people nicely to uproot their lives and they just do it?

Oh shoot, has anyone seen him and Tim McIlrath in the same room before??

With people like him I'd say it's about a combination of being contrarían in general, being surrounded by yes men, and looking up to rich assholes.

More generally, we can all fall for reactionary crap if we don't see it for what it is and if it speaks to some grievance we have. We need to be smarter and look at historical patterns, the fascists never helped any workers, they just got countless people killed, and letting them rise to power eventually leads to someone, either you or someone you care about, being next.

the only true remigration would be to repatriate every single human of every race to Botswana and Ethiopia.

Remigration has nothing to do with ethnicity and is not ethnic cleansing

Yes, it literally is. It was when Nazis shipped jews out of country. It was when Israel did the Nakba. It was when Milosovic did it in the former Yugoslavia in the 90s.

Why is your first reaction to a fascist talking about ethnic cleansing shaking your fist to tankies? And how do you prevent a brain worm? By using state violence?

Regardless, if you don't like people demanding for better pay and protections, you fund your public sector so people don't fall through the cracks, and/or redistribute wealth. People have a breaking point.

Survivorship bias.

Right wing tech folks abuse their workers and customers, which brings in money to grow the company. Which makes their companies enormous.

If you treat customers and workers fairly, you'll earn much less money, slowing down the growth of your company. Which ends up eliminating you via competition.

Companies can only be ethical if governments force them to be so. Otherwise their future is doomed.

You know when I see these things I suspect some sort of out of context thing but wow. Would fit in with us maga.

please don't say tech folks. his degrees were cs and business administration. hes a business guy not a tech guy. just like gates.

Well now that we're talking about assholes, yhod asshole comes by.

Thinks only in over simplifications, and of course it will all be solve by getting rod of the brown people. But worry not, genocide is mainstream now so it is fine!

Your comment confuses me, but I bet I'm still less confused than you are.

i mixed up terms, forget it

Now I'm wondering which software on my PC uses Ruby on Rails so I can reconsider.

It's a web framework. Directly, probably none. However there may well be plenty of sites/web servers using it.

Huh he actually did...

Because the sacred cow here is not just that mass migration must stop going forward. It's also that millions who are already in Europe must go. Remigration has gone from a fringe concept to the mainstream discourse in record time on account of that realization.

I think all of the previous criticisms of him have been pretty questionable exaggerations by the far left but you can't argue with this one. Also I didn't know he had such idiotic views on climate change. Sure, get air conditioners. But...

Setting aside how much of global warming is due to man-made causes, the reality is that Europe is irrelevant to the equation either way. Just 6% of global emissions originate there. So even if the nirvana of net zero could be achieved, it would change nothing, yet cost the continent everything.

First, why do we need to set that question aside? It's not a question, we know the answer. Second, what does he think is going to happen if every country in the world says "well we only contribute <10% of the problem so it won't make any difference if we change anything"? What a tool.

They don't deserve one, put them in a field and call the crows

If you can not solve a problem, don't contribute to it's solution.
Terrible and a purely defeatist attitude for a continent dependent on an stream that has made the continent livable, but is on decline. This guy is turning into Stupidity 101

Wow.

Right, so this guy officially is fair game for Nazi-punching.

Highly politically active man who has every alt-right opinion in the book and is very familiar with the use and abuse of subtext just happens to use the conspicuous loaded word remigration when talking about the necessity of removing millions of people from Europe. I'm not buying it.

Ultimately a win-win, they get to go home and the load on our overburdened societal systems is reduced (housing, welfare, healthcare etc.).

That is the hope of course. If all voluntary measures fail and someone no longer has the right to residence (through lawfully attained citizenship for instance) then deportation becomes the only option.

Europe is not keeping refugees hostage. European countries have had programs to promote and assist emigration of certain groups for well over a decade. If it was truly win-win nobody would need to call it a sacred cow that needed to be killed.

It's funny because I've worked with ruby on rails my entire career and can barely see how he built the tool that such an open and inclusive community formed around. He was always an outlier in that setting and even more so now. My understanding is that he's not very involved with the project and even if he was it would be pointless to boycott it since he doesn't gain anything from it anymore. Hey and Basecamp on the other hand, yeah, neither are seeing a penny from me.

None on your PC.

Even in terms of the internet services that might possibly use it, it hasn't been fashionable in 15 years or so. Long standing services that started between mid 2000s and mid 2010s are the most likely things to use it.

Less about "tech folks" and more about folks that tend to drive followers. For good or for ill, a horribly large ego can drive adherents. If someone believes in their stuff hard enough, it tends to inspire others to think there must be something to it.

These guys are all having their brains cooked in group chats

He lives in a parallel universe

The best part of the American ethos is the belief that we can build our way out of anything. Behind China on chips and fabs? Let's build. Challenged by BYD? Let's build. Catch a glimpse of a future massively accelerated by AI? LET'S BUILD.

Build Chips and fabs = build some megaproject that won't be used because stockholders prefer to save $0.04 per unit

Challenged by byd? Let's sweep it under the rug with tariffs. But when in a few years their cars are actually better than Ford and GM, what to do?

Finally the ai grift with massive underutilized datacenters

They also seem to ignore that those millions of regular immigrants are paying billions in taxes