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InternetCitizen2
lemmy.world
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-16 |
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daveywaveyboy
feddit.nl
daveywaveyboy@feddit.nl Joined: 2024-04-03 |
Without seeing the video:
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TerraRoot
sh.itjust.works
TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-19 |
Without seeing the video: Oil leaks Forks that flex elextrics that fail when wet or just because Disc brakes that don’t work when it’s wet, drum brakes that don’t work genwrally bad tyres, with inner tubes truly terrible headlights theres more - someone help me out
We should do a list of stuff that should be brought back, I'll start.
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Onomatopoeia
lemmy.cafe
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2025-01-02 |
Piss poor charging systems. Really really floppy frames. Carburators We should do a list of stuff that should be brought back, I'll start. Carburators Kickstarts
Oh, fuck a carb 7 ways to Sunday, EFI is a million times better I get the thinking, but carbs are 19th century black magic that only strange people truly understand, and most of them died decades ago (I say this having cut my teeth working on carbs...ewww). Haha. That said, bike carbs are way simpler than on cars. |
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harrys_balzac
lemmy.dbzer0.com
harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com Joined: 2024-03-21 |
Without seeing the video: Oil leaks Forks that flex elextrics that fail when wet or just because Disc brakes that don’t work when it’s wet, drum brakes that don’t work genwrally bad tyres, with inner tubes truly terrible headlights theres more - someone help me out
My 2024 Grom has #6. No matter how I adjust it, it just doesn't light up very far down the road. If any Grom owners have a solution, I'm all ears. |
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Botzo
lemmy.world
Botzo@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Oh, fuck a carb 7 ways to Sunday, EFI is a million times better I get the thinking, but carbs are 19th century black magic that only strange people truly understand, and most of them died decades ago (I say this having cut my teeth working on carbs...ewww). Haha. That said, bike carbs are way simpler than on cars.
This suggests to me that you have not dealt with a 4 carb setup on a 4 cylinder bike before. Never fucking again. Unless I stumble on a cherry CBX1000. I'd make an exception for that glorious 6-cylinder monstrosity. |
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fubarx
lemmy.world
fubarx@lemmy.world Joined: 2024-06-07 |
Anything on Fortnine is an insta-watch. |
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thanksforallthefish
literature.cafe
thanksforallthefish@literature.cafeJoined: 2023-09-12 |
Without seeing the video: Oil leaks Forks that flex elextrics that fail when wet or just because Disc brakes that don’t work when it’s wet, drum brakes that don’t work genwrally bad tyres, with inner tubes truly terrible headlights theres more - someone help me out
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TerraRoot
sh.itjust.works
TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-06-19 |
Oh, fuck a carb 7 ways to Sunday, EFI is a million times better I get the thinking, but carbs are 19th century black magic that only strange people truly understand, and most of them died decades ago (I say this having cut my teeth working on carbs...ewww). Haha. That said, bike carbs are way simpler than on cars.
My point of view as connysewer of cheap and disposable bikes, is that a carb can be fixed with a screwdriver on the side of the road. A GOOD efi will enter limp mode and get you home, but I don't do good bikes... |
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Onomatopoeia
lemmy.cafe
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2025-01-02 |
That said, bike carbs are way simpler than on cars. This suggests to me that you have not dealt with a 4 carb setup on a 4 cylinder bike before. Never fucking again. Unless I stumble on a cherry CBX1000. I'd make an exception for that glorious 6-cylinder monstrosity.
I have, and those carbs are still far simpler than on cars. Balancing can be fun (figuring out why the hell does this one always pull more mercury, and how do I balance so they're all reasonably similar). Have a bike like this currently. But bike carbs don't have the crazy vacuum lines everywhere, or an EGR system mucking things up. |
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Onomatopoeia
lemmy.cafe
Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe Joined: 2025-01-02 |
My point of view as connysewer of cheap and disposable bikes, is that a carb can be fixed with a screwdriver on the side of the road. A GOOD efi will enter limp mode and get you home, but I don't do good bikes...
I've had way more failures with carbs than efi. I've had EFI run for 20 years with zero issues, on a single vehicle. Zero maintenance, not even sensor replacement. One current vehicle is from 1985 and the EFI still works flawlessly... A 1985 EFI. Once EFI transitioned from analog to digital, lots of little gremlins just went away. They became a lot more consistent and robust. I've owned early analog EFI... Whew, talk about a persnickety system. |
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just some guy
sh.itjust.works
tophneal@sh.itjust.works Joined: 2023-07-10 |
I miss my 86 cb700sc 🥲 |
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InternetCitizen2
lemmy.world
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.worldJoined: 2023-06-16 |
I miss my 86 cb700sc 🥲
They miss you too. |
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LowtierComputer
lemmy.world
LowtierComputer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-10 |
That said, bike carbs are way simpler than on cars. This suggests to me that you have not dealt with a 4 carb setup on a 4 cylinder bike before. Never fucking again. Unless I stumble on a cherry CBX1000. I'd make an exception for that glorious 6-cylinder monstrosity.
Or a bike that has multiple tuned carbs per cylinder that have to be balanced together. Thanks BMW. |
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Botzo
lemmy.world
Botzo@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
I have, and those carbs are still far simpler than on cars. Balancing can be fun (figuring out why the hell does this one always pull more mercury, and how do I balance so they're all reasonably similar). Have a bike like this currently. But bike carbs don't have the crazy vacuum lines everywhere, or an EGR system mucking things up.
Never did have to deal with a carbureted vehicle with EGR. Lucky me I guess! 4 CV (vacuum operated) carbs on a 30 year old inline 4 cylinder bike is where I topped out. There were definitely several dark magic ceremonies required to get those to run well (at all throttle positions). God forbid you want to change the intake setup. |
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XeroxCool
lemmy.world
XeroxCool@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-17 |
Without seeing the video: Oil leaks Forks that flex elextrics that fail when wet or just because Disc brakes that don’t work when it’s wet, drum brakes that don’t work genwrally bad tyres, with inner tubes truly terrible headlights theres more - someone help me out
Drum brakes, but for ABS reasons rather than performance. He skids his drum to prove it. 16" rims, with which bias ply tires are mentioned as part of the appeal That's all you got close |
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Alcoholicorn
mander.xyz
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-06-24 |
Drum brakes, but for ABS reasons rather than performance. He skids his drum to prove it. 16" rims, with which bias ply tires are mentioned as part of the appeal That's all you got close
Most new bikes over here in SEA either don't come with ABS at all, or is an expensive addition lol. Drum brakes suck btw, they can get fluid in them and you can't easily check if they're about to fail like a disc. |
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Nindelofocho
lemmy.world
Nindelofocho@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-06-12 |
Most new bikes over here in SEA either don't come with ABS at all, or is an expensive addition lol. Drum brakes suck btw, they can get fluid in them and you can't easily check if they're about to fail like a disc.
Also you can get you a brand new current MY Honda Dream with… still drum brakes |
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Alcoholicorn
mander.xyz
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-06-24 |
Or a bike that has multiple tuned carbs per cylinder that have to be balanced together. Thanks BMW.
Why would anybody design something like that? |
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GrindingGears
lemmy.ca
GrindingGears@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Why would anybody design something like that?
BMW is like wha ha ha ha Hold my beer, or whatever that is in German. |
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CADmonkey
lemmy.world
CADmonkey@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-13 |
Oh, fuck a carb 7 ways to Sunday, EFI is a million times better I get the thinking, but carbs are 19th century black magic that only strange people truly understand, and most of them died decades ago (I say this having cut my teeth working on carbs...ewww). Haha. That said, bike carbs are way simpler than on cars.
The problem here is multiple carbs. My personal favorite is the carb setup on a Suzuki Intruder 1400. One down draft and one side draft. The idle speed is linked together with a cable. No vacuum nipples to put your guages on, but that's ok the guages won't help anyway. Or I could ride my nightster with it's EFI. |
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CADmonkey
lemmy.world
CADmonkey@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-13 |
I've had way more failures with carbs than efi. I've had EFI run for 20 years with zero issues, on a single vehicle. Zero maintenance, not even sensor replacement. One current vehicle is from 1985 and the EFI still works flawlessly... A 1985 EFI. Once EFI transitioned from analog to digital, lots of little gremlins just went away. They became a lot more consistent and robust. I've owned early a...
I had an Isuzu Trooper with an early multiport EFI setup on a 2.6 4ZE1 engine. It basically ran on controlled vacuum leaks. The easiest way anyone ever found to fix it was to remove it and swap in a carb setup from a 2.3 4ZD1 engine. I decided that when coping with a 1980's Isuzu the most effective way to solve all your problems was the radiator cap solution: Remove the radiator cap and hold it up, then drive another vehicle under it. Put the cap back on and it will run better. |
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LowtierComputer
lemmy.world
LowtierComputer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-10 |
BMW is like wha ha ha ha Hold my beer, or whatever that is in German.
Yeah bier. But they've done pretty well with their beer. |
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LowtierComputer
lemmy.world
LowtierComputer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-10 |
Why would anybody design something like that?
The reasoning was: So we'll just put more smaller carbs! Yay yay yippee it works. Ship it. |
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Alcoholicorn
mander.xyz
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz Joined: 2025-06-24 |
The reasoning was: Less cylinders, higher torque, but not enough space for big complicated carbs. So we'll just put more smaller carbs! Yay yay yippee it works. Ship it. In the next model they kept the same carbs and doubled the cylinders. Power increased with basically the same weight.
Oh I see, they didn't want to design a carb specificly for a single cylinder they didn't make multi-cylinder versions of, and so sticking 2 restricted carbs on was cheaper to design and start manufacture, even if it was more expensive per part and required more maintaince. |
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LowtierComputer
lemmy.world
LowtierComputer@lemmy.world Joined: 2023-07-10 |
Oh I see, they didn't want to design a carb specificly for a single cylinder they didn't make multi-cylinder versions of, and so sticking 2 restricted carbs on was cheaper to design and start manufacture, even if it was more expensive per part and required more maintaince.
Yep. I think so. |
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GrindingGears
lemmy.ca
GrindingGears@lemmy.ca Joined: 2023-06-13 |
Yeah bier. But they've done pretty well with their beer.
German beer kicks major ass. |
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