There are dozens of us, but we all have a least 5 alts.
EDIT:There, not they...

I'm willing to bet he's an admin or mod on there 🤣

When I read the summary of the rant he made about "leaving" first thing I thought was "sure buddy". There's no way someone like that doesn't have at least one alt, if only for testing development of their program.

Who knows how bad the infestation is of alts.

You'd think they'd keep a lower profile after breaking a federal law in the country they're in.

I mean at least it is an instance doing the defederation and announcing it publicly (so people who don't like this can leave). This also makes a great example for people who don't understand the difference between banning lists in apps vs instances.

Absolutely. The batshittery that's happened there in the past is a smaller scale mirror of what's going on now

They dropped the s off "makes you worse"

Well, I'm the one who caused the exodus from Startrek.website so... if you've got any questions, just ask.

The tl;dr was thus:

ST.W was made in response to redditors leaving reddit. It was created, and is run, by the same moderators who created and ran /r/StarTrek. Those moderators have a metric ton of drama surrounding them on reddit to the point that Star Trek fragmented into a hundred different subreddits to avoid being associated with what everyone was considering toxic moderation. Even toxic by reddit standards.

So when startrek.website started, the same behavior did too. Curtailing opinions is a big one. ValueSubtracted@Startrek.website, one of the admins, literally cannot help himself. He's a diehard defender of the newer treks, much like I am, but he takes any slight against the show as an active insult. Where I will only remove things that are categorically false or dogwhistle-type homophobia/racism, he will remove anything that is negative about the newer shows. He will tell you to stay on topic or be positive and refuses any negative coverage.

I first joined startrek.website as Stamets (although I was on lemmy before that) and started posting. Things were going well until I started seeing posts removed from their Star Trek meme community for nonsense reasons. I asked the admins what was up and they handwaved away the abuse from the moderator of that community (USS Burrito Truck) and their own abuse. So I left startrek.website and set up TenForward on lemmy.world (something I've left for Risa@lemmy.dbzero.com although I've been very inactive for the past month due to life). I sent messages to the other big posters who were active, friends of mine by that point, asking if they'd want to join me on TenForward. They said yes. By this point, nothing was really posted publicly by me save for a comment or two around the time I left. Those comments were removed/deleted.

The first couple weeks went by smoothly for the comm but not for me. ValueSubtracted started reaching out to several admins of different instances, asking them all to ban me from their instances. Those admins all reported it to me like "What is his problem?" and denied him. So I made a post on Mastodon saying that people should consider staying away from startrek.website due to some odd admin decisions. Within 24 hours I had gotten an email from my mastodon instance saying that there was a report against that post and I needed to clarify it with my admin. I gave her the information and she said the report had no merit and dismissed it. But it was clear who made the report.

We then started getting reports on TenForward for every tiny comment and every tiny post, accusing the community of causing cross instance harassment that was directed towards them. Most of these comments were passively talking about what was going on. There was no hate or harassment but the reports were coming from ValueSubtracted and were overloading the report section. Like maxing out the character count.

I asked him politely to stop several times and he kept doubling down and refusing to stop. It was at that point, realizing he wouldn't stop until he was forced to, that I made a giant post about it. Included all the screenshots of the private messages he sent me, the reports, the insane shit, everything. Proving conclusively that the level of harassment they had risen to was going across multiple websites.

That post was lost when I deleted my lemmy.world account. Or so I thought. Someone sent me the internet archive page for it yesterday. So if you're curious yourself...

I re-made Risa but on dbzero. !Risa@lemmy.dbzer0.com

I just havent been very active the past month or so due to some life shit

bladder

Oh piss off

;-}

You're right. Its been so long since I've been on .world that i forgot. I think its also because so many comms are on there too if I remember. I should have known though because I see .worlders in YPTB complaining about .ml sometimes.

Hexbear was never federated with world, to paraphrase worlds words they were "preemptively defederated as a last resort"

hes kirk@startrek.website

If you're doing app development you tend to aquire accounts - straightforward things like testing interactions between users in different conditions means you quickly wind up with a spare heap of them. It's why pretty much every open-source crashout like this has the same period of rooting out alt accounts and "randos" coming to defend a dev "they" like after being inactive for years.

Remember adults two wrongs don't make a right

I'm on one of my alts because my main instance (.today) had a hiccup - which rarely happens. Maybe twice in the last year, if I recall correctly.

I've tried five different instances. Lemmy.today doesn't defederate from anyone so you can see the whole lemmyverse and curate your experience from there, instead of having admins decide what you should and shouldn't see. The rules are standard but lax, bigots and abusers still get banned, but it's largely up to the mods to watch over their communities.

Alternatively, if you like a healthy, pre-curated experience at the other end of the spectrum, you could try Beehaw. They're more focused on creating an engaging, well-moderated, welcoming community.

Yeah, my opinion of leave other people the fuck alone was too extreme, got me on the list, which i found hilarious.

Memes aren’t facts.

I think by the time you hit 5 you need a long hard look in the mirror. 1 for NSFW stuff you don't want to associate with your main is normal, 1-2 for breaking up information or other stuff. Then 1 more because I'm sure there are other reasons. But 5? What are you even doing at 5?

I'm struck by incompetent of moderators they must be to think these attacks would work

I don't know the exact scenario being referenced above, but personally I don't believe in the death penalty for anything. I truly believe people can change and be reformed. Not that everyone will, but everyone can be. Death robs of any opportunity or hope.

I also understand there is a lot of nuance around this conversation. I don't judge anyone for believing differently, as long as its for good reasons.

It's pathetic. They tried the same thing again a few months ago when I made another post updating their sketchy behavior. They're so predictable that I used the phrase 'scorched earth', quoting VS as probably saying thats what he was going to do. Little did I know until after was that he did use that phrase. When I quoted him for it, he lost his fucking mind and had a meltdown in the matrix channel before leaving in a huff.

Go to sleep, it sounds like you need it.

Lol

LMAO

I want you to point out exactly what sentence I said that supports me promoting and encouraging harassment lmfao

The "you" in this case is dbzer0 as a whole, since it's about defederation.

Wishing death upon others makes you a bad person. People don't like to be around others who wish or encourage harm towards others. That's why dbzer0 was defederated and will continue to be in the future. Don't like it? Grow up, and stop wishing people to die loser!

You're posting about db0 in MWOG over this and trying to get sh.itjust.works to defederate. Posting about users on MWOG is actively calling for harassment.

The projection is real.

*edit
Already deleted the defederate thread. Get wrecked.

These cope huffing losers aren't going to listen to reason...

I deleted it. Will try again in 1 week per your advice to wait until things "calm down" won't make any difference. Startrek.website defederated for a good reason. Others will follow.

Just like Hitler, there are people the world would be better off without. Or are you saying you think Hitler should have been spared from his fate.

Hitler killed himself or would've been killed as part of war had he resisted arrest. Extremists encouraging citizens to murder people as an act of vigilantism is not the same as military actions necessary to win a war.

So being in a class war with the epstein ultra wealthy pedophiles that do terrible terrible shit everyday ruining the lives of everyone on this god forsaken planet doesnt count? Because if we dont win this war one way or another the whole earth is fucked.

So you think framing the current political climate as something it isn't (a war) is justification to launch physical attacks on elected officials. Ok sure bud. I won't visit you in prison though.

Even if you tried id deny seeing you. No one likes boot licking fascist simps.

Fortunately he’s comically bad at sockpuppeting and he’s all over these posts that are mocking him, on multiple alts, so you can just peruse and make a list if you like.

Others will follow!

Good lord dude, stop huffing your own farts and touch grass. You fucked up and got called out. Be the bigger person and move on, like the adult you claim to be, instead of whining at everyone on all these alts.

In case the many, many, many posts and comments all across the fediverse haven’t made it clear, no-one is impressed, and no-one likes you.

In case the many, many, many posts and comments all across the fediverse haven’t made it clear, no-one is impressed, and no-one likes you.

Who's talking about me across the fediverse? I haven't seen anyone talking about me, other than the few people who reply to me.

Ok sure. Whatever you say bud. If me being against murder makes me a "fascist simp" I would hate to know what being against sex crimes makes me in your eyes...

I'm probably bladder than you. Or am I? Wait, what does it mean?

Lol you must be one of those not able to read types of people, or it could be your understanding level. You already defended pedophiles. So you're either a troll or a bot.

Either way fuck you goodbye. Thanks for making me realize it's these drunk comments that got me on the list of fame.

I guess we know the answer

What violence and harassment? Surely you'll give proof this time, Patrick.

Patrick is really trying to use anything he can to look like a victim here.

I want you to point out exactly what sentence we said that supports us promoting and encouraging harassment lmfao

Pure projection, Patrick.

I think he meant badder than anus people.

Feeling a lot better about being banned from there.

I have no idea what all this is. But you YOU are an insufferable twat. So if you are here repping your favorite instance... I'm gonna start thinking Star Trek folk might have a point, as Star Trek people tend to.

Nevermind that the whole federated thing was obviously going to blow up eventually anyway.

I want you to point out exactly what sentence we said that supports us promoting and encouraging harassment lmfao

As you should.

Ctrl c

Ctrl v to you too

Lmfao