welcome welcome, do you know your way around?

we do need growth because its quite stagnant and contracted since instances keep disappearing. the problem with reddit is they allow alot of botting, astroturfing going on. with the last big instance shutting down i noticed it became super stagnant.

ee was overwhelmed and it was a large instance apparently.

in old reddit, i use the all function, you can filter out the subs you dont want your feed. i did it to subs.

niche comms are a problem, they are all on reddit unfortunately, not enough people will join. also those subs dont suffer as much attrition as subs like news, politics, movies, sports,gossip based subs.

they ban you for even looking at the site wrong. apparently they dont like "non organic behaviour" like comment too fast after account creation, old inactive accounts become active, or comment in subs(rare) that have some kind of requirement. you are also measured on a hidden thing called CQS score. other things is if your fingerprinting is off.

sooner or later they will follow the FB method, require facial recognition, ID scans. and google which is the most common email reddit usually attaches to account started thier more invasive datamining, by requiring QR code scan with your phone to make an account on google.

most of was forced out because they were purging a and shadowbanning like crazy. people thought there was no end to it, reddit only slowed down because they realize they were losing engagement to many actual users, and exposing more bots to take over the sites.

datamining perhaps, i would be wary too.

slightly less worst than fb, fb would block people unless they login.(there is a workaround with ublock though.

those people are the worst, i see them complaining about youtube on the YT subreddit, and they go on defending it when you point out the pervasiveness of rightwing content, and people like mr beast getting views. i was saying which is it, do you like youtube or you dont. and no i wont be logging in to youtube just to curate my feed, google wants this so they sell this part of your data.

Yes, I was burned too many times. First Digg, than Reddit. That's already one too many.

same, some tgc games, catching up on drama on certain tgc industry like mtg. PTGC, things that involves plants, animals, and a nich yt channel, location based subs.

i think its stagnant, because too many scattered when an instance just vanishes to other platform. and reddit isnt likely going through another wave of purges anytime soon.

there are so many podcasts on YT. i do follow 1 or 2, mostly actors of movies/shows thier experiences during thier time on the show. political or news is no-go for many reasons, and if you choose something related to "relationship" it will try to reccomend unwanted things on the feed.

sounds like an addiction, people are addicted them.

reddit is becoming like fb, bots and more bots.

i only went to lemmy because i remember it was mentioned during the API crisis, when i got banned from reddit when they used AI to massively target everyone. i do have a few forums as a backup i go sometimes.

google prioritizes reddit, because reddit allows google to scrape for AI and datamining.

If Reddit account is still available and you've got the time & energy to convince some people to switch - go for it. Make sure to not enrich Reddit with anything else. I've decided against this way, because I wasn't sure if I'm still talking to real people and the possibilities of spreading the word are very limited (posts often get deleted by mods).

Feels much better to feed the fediverse with content in my opinion.

Digg came and went so fast it was weird. Usually I'd expect administration to wait a little while longer before deciding it's not worth it.

I believe Lemmy has the potential for a wider range of discussion and debate than Reddit, or any other social media platform I've been on, simply because of the defederated & community-based system.

In theory, I agree with you - and that was my very hope when I first got into the fediverse. Unfortunately, the reality has proven to be different...

The issue, as you describe, seems to be saying the wrong thing in the wrong place, which, to be honest, is similar to the real world.

Except it's much, much worse than in the real world. I've been in circles with right wingers, and I am notoriously stubborn about not hiding my viewpoint (which very often clashes with that of right wingers), and even there the reaction is less crazy than on Lemmy.

For example, you can't walk up to a group of homosexuals and try to convince them they shouldn't be gay.

That's not the kind of thing I'm talking about. Of course something like that would go over like a lead balloon - in that case also because that's borderline in factual in its assumptions. A better comparison would be a conversation naturally wondering to the risks of anal sex if not done carefully and being chastised and banned for that.

Even if he was, he was in no place to take it into his own hands to address (especially in a secretive way).

I neither said nor implied that, in fact I said quite the opposite...

If you see a lot of toxicity where you browse, maybe your chosen community just isn't a healthy one.

And that's exactly the problem. More work. More digging. More research. People come to these sites to have fun and often don't have the patience nor the interest to filter through all the communities.

People need to change their ideas about what the fedi/threadiverse is in relation to social media. It is an international forum of everything.

I would disagree with the everything part, but otherwise, that's precisely the problem - you can't expect the majority to drastically change their expectations of social media.

It wasn't only that - this person had come up with pronouns to match, almost like the attack helicopter meme that many found offensive, but unironically. People got banned for not using the dragon-whatever pronouns (and not just on this person's instances). And people started scanning other people's fediverse posts in order to pre-emptively ban people before they even posted in certain communities. It was wild.

I don't expect the majority to do anything, but I also don't think Lemmy needs them to validate its existence. We validate it just fine already.

Reddit is dead to me. I blocked them at the router at my house. I should redirect them to a landing page that says simply.

"Don't be a sucker"

I haven’t posted on Reddit since they killed third-party apps. Funny thing is, I was a paid subscriber for years before they did that.

Here to be the change I want to see in the world. Go Lemmy.

Honestly it's been great because the login lock finally has broken my doom scrolling habit. Lemmy helps me keep a pulse on some of my interests without being a firehose of bs that was r/all. Mental health and sleep habits have been soaring lol

Oh, this is about the login wall?

lol that was just a temporary measure to fend off the scrapers. They've been really bad the last couple of weeks, especially.

I'm testing out a custom-built Anubis now, that should mean we can do without a login wall.

That's the beauty of the fediverse, your preference doesn't restrict others freedom. There are non-tech, non-Linux, non-political non-defaultSubreddit etc communities that currently only have a following on Reddit largely because the community is not "in the know" about Lemmy.

I still think it would be a better world if the majority of people used Lemmy instead of Reddit, Signal instead of Whatsapp, Mastodon instead of X etc, despite all the dipshittery that follows when the majority joins.

I mostly agree, but I don't think it should be 100%. How did any of us get here? Almost certainly it was someone talking on the legacy platforms. We shouldn't spend time trying to convince people to join, but some people should spend some time spreading the word that the alternatives exist, and why they're better. Honestly, I don't think we want the users that need convincing. We do want the users who see the advantage and leave on their own, but they need to know about it first.

Finally came over to Lemmy and found this place when the news of age vertificarion started spreading around, along with the annoying pop us of signing it to view the sight. Plus I got tired of how dead and full of bots it was, what makes Reddit think I would want to come back?? 😑

My cat would end me if I took a dogs advice.

If i avoided politics and tech there'd be no more content left for me XD

You get banned there for saying trump rapes children, it's like the emperor has no clothes except instead of fake clothes, it's raping children. Fuck reddit dude.

Dust off your VPNs folks, you can still browse old.reddit from a Hong Kong endpoint.

(I probably shouldn't have mentioned this)

most real

filled to the brim with ai bots

I think bots are inevitable here as well. I think the only thing that keeps them away is how small Lemmy is.

If Lemmy ever became worth anything i dont know how they could effectively counter bots in the age of AI.

EDIT: Oops! I accidentally wrote a wall of text!

I knew about AI models generating posts, but I never really thought about how problematic it could get. I don't know much about Reddit's rules, mostly because I left the platform before people started complaining of getting banned left and center, but I did hear a lots of people complaining about it here on Lemmy.

I'm sorry if I jumped the gun and started making assumptions about you right away. I have friends that still use X, despite knowing how bad that platform is, and how unhealthy scrolling through a feed on that platform can get, and even despite knowing there are alternatives (one of them tried Bluesky once, but quit it because "it just wasn't the same thing"). I just assumed you were in a not-so-different situation before getting banned, even though I don't know anything about you.

It also doesn't help that I just assumed that everyone had heard about the existence of Reddit alternatives when the Reddit API protests happened. I completely forgot that lots of people came to Reddit after that, or weren't even using the platform during the protest despite having an account. I forgot that there are probably some people that didn't notice the protests because of their favourite subreddits being unaffected by it, and that it's also very likely that there were a ton of people that were affected by it, but knew nothing about why it was happening. And there could be even others that knew about why it was happening, but didn't know that people were starting to look for alternatives. I just assumed that people who stayed behind on Reddit after the protests chose to stay behind after hearing about platforms like Lemmy because changing platforms was too much work.

Thanks for opening my eyes :)

Despite it all, I don't see Lemmy as being a platform with a community that is super accessible for every single human in the planet, so I don't think it's exclusively an advertisement issue. Not that that's a problem that needs to be fixed, I just think that you'd have to partly remove the platform's "soul" if you wanted to make it more accessible for it to grow. As far as I know, Lemmy wasn't made to "kill" Reddit. It was made to be a place where people can hang out with other people who care about the same topics :)

They also ban you for suggesting Fascists need to fuck off. They tell you its "inciting violence."

Fuck Reddit. They caved to the fucking Nazis.

I joined Lemmy like a lot of others, when Reddit shut down the API. I soon went back to Reddit but also stayed on Lemmy.

The big problem for me with Lemmy is it’s still way too small to use it the way I use Reddit. I’ve subscribed to a whole bunch of communities equivalent to the subreddits I read and comment on. On Reddit those subreddits have a few hundred people active on a daily basis, whereas on Lemmy they’re lucky to see 1 post and 2 comments a week.

Small communities and real discussions were always what I liked about Reddit, never the big subreddits with millions of users. For now, anyway, Lemmy’s communities are just too small to foster those discussions (on the topics I’m still on Reddit for, anyway; there’s plenty of politics here obviously).

Been so long since I tried using Facebook. And haven't tried threads.

Just sad how many are following in the Twitter footsteps of everything needing a login like it's a support page

I can't say otherwise you would call it harassment and push for all instances to ban me/anyone else that explains it again

While I agree there isn't a ton of discussion in a lot of communities here, I have had pretty good success just posting the questions myself in communities where relevant even if the community currently has almost no activity. Sure you don't get 100s of responses but I do feel the response quality is higher here and ultimately that's the only way to help lemmy grow to be more active in those communities

Well, I'm just one, but here I am. I left reddit a few days ago when they forced login for old. I'm having fun learning about lemmy and fediverse now.

Good, it means we will be forced to move on to better alternatives. No more fallback to the "old" we are used to and thus have a hard time giving up on.

I got ip banned for basically nothing. Posted a silly comment about nothing, mod banned me, didn't realize and posted with the wrong account on the same group happened a couple of times since I was not paying attention, then bam all my accounts were banned for ban evasion. WTF I didn't even comment anything offensive. Their automatic banning is bullshit. I didn't do anything horrible enough to be site wide banned.

I got banned for saying US healthcare is a scam and should be a human right, got banned for it

The only thing that's confusing to me, is like there is not a pottery group on here but I have no idea how to make one. I tried to figure it out I have no idea how to make an instance or anything.